News Update on fakecel Nathan Larson (April/May 2021)

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Update: fakecel Nathan Larson pleads not guilty, denied bail

Previous thread: https://incels.is/threads/news-fakecel-nathan-larson-indicted-in-federal-court-last-week-faces-three-life-sentences-if-convicted.275245/ Minutes from yesterday's bail hearing: The next hearing is scheduled for April 21st, he will continue to be held in the Fresno County jail.

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[News] Fakecel Nathan Larson indicted in federal court last week, faces three life sentences if convicted

Larson also has state charges in Fresno County, California and Denver County, Colorado to contend with, but it seems that the fedcels at the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of California are moving at a pretty fast pace. The grand jury indictment was filed last Thursday and is...

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Background

Last year, @Leucosticte travelled from his home in Virginia in an attempt to abduct a 12-year-old Californian femoid he met on his website, which will remain unnamed and has now been seized by federal law enforcement.

At 2:30 am on December 14th, 2020, Nathan Larson stopped by the home in a vehicle and left a minute later with the femoid. The next morning, the femoid's mother contacted the Fresno Police Department, who after interviewing one of the femoid's friends and a ticketing agent at Fresno airport, eventually traced both Larson and the femoid onto Frontier flight #494. You can guess what happens next: that same afternoon, Denver PD and the FBI intercepted Larson during their layover at Denver airport. The femoid was returned to her parents. A search warrant executed on his devices found child pornography. Larson now faces five federal charges, that if convicted, would result in a maximum sentence of three life sentences plus fifty years. He plead not guilty and is currently being held at the Fresno County jail awaiting trial.

Spoiler

View: https://imgur.com/a/R1QKT7X

Latest legal developments

While incarcerated, Nathan Larson wrote two handwritten letters to the court asking that he be allowed to represent himself pro se and appear in court in person without a face covering. On April 21st, the court scheduled another hearing on April 28th on the issue of his competency to represent himself. Larson then wrote a 3rd letter asking that he be allowed to represent himself at said hearing.

The court denied Larson's motions on April 30th and scheduled another hearing for June.

Commentary

I mean, let's be honest, Larson is probably going to spend the rest of his life behind bars, so this is the last chance he will get to put up a political show.

What is interesting is how normies and cucks continually tie Larson to the incel community even though he was not 1) an incel by any definition of the word, 2) more of a far-right libertarian whackjob than the archetypal traditionalist conservative incel.

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

You forgot to mention that they also considered Larson to be aggressive/resistant. Very based.

I hate niggers, I hate trannies, I hate kikes and I hate feds.

 

[Deleted member 33902]

6'2
blue eyes
blonde hair.
Over.

 

[epillepsy]

i thought you had a right to represent yourself in court in the USA no matter what.

 

[MountainGorilla]

You forgot to mention that they also considered Larson to be aggressive/resistant. Very based.

I hate niggers, I hate trannies, I hate kikes and I hate feds.

nathan larson linked up with spotemgottem and pooh shiesty?

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

Last year, @Leucosticte travelled from his home in Virginia in an attempt to abduct a 12-year-old Californian femoid he met on his website, which will remain unnamed and has now been seized by federal law enforcement.

The little whore met up with him on her own accord, jfl at "abduct".

 

[Deleted member 24977]

You forgot to mention that they also considered Larson to be aggressive/resistant. Very based.

I hate niggers, I hate trannies, I hate kikes and I hate feds.

I was watching earlier some of your youtube videos, really accurate and based content!
Hope you make more videos

 

[shii410]

The little whore met up with him on her own accord, jfl at "abduct".

judging by her posts on his website she is genuinely a gigawhore with bpd and i guarantee shes sucked multiple dicks and been fucked by multiple guys since this occurred

 

[WØLF]

The fact that a white supremacist risked it all for a 12 year old noodlewhore is really the icing on the cake, not to mention he has a noodlewhore wife and a hapa daughter

You can’t make this shit up

 

[PPEcel]

i thought you had a right to represent yourself in court in the USA no matter what.

One can represent themselves in a criminal case if the trial judge agrees that he or she is acting knowingly. See Faretta v. California (1975).

Basically next month a hearing will be held to see if Nathan Larson understands the risks of refusing the aid of an attorney and is mentally competent enough to represent himself.

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

judging by her posts on his website

??

 

[shii410]

??

yea some guy did a video about it but she just posted about typical shit like her body/pussy/pics of her in her underwear/bpd shit like eating disorders etc

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

nathan larson linked up with spotemgottem and pooh shiesty?

Nathan Larson will NEVER link up with spottemgottem and Pooh shiesty

*5 minutes later*
HE DID DOE

 

[epillepsy]

One can represent themselves in a criminal case if the trial judge agrees that he or she is acting knowingly. See Faretta v. California (1975).

Basically next month a hearing will be held to see if Nathan Larson understands the risks of refusing the aid of an attorney and is mentally competent enough to represent himself.

i figured there would be such a clause.
is there more information on why faretta was banned from being his own lawyer? was he retarded or crazy?

nathan larson was in politics so surely he understands the law and is mentally competent as shown by his verbal intelligence if maybe not common sense.
maybe the dumbness of his last action is swaying their opinion but even then who knows if he was trying to martyr himself or not.

 

[PPEcel]

yea some guy did a video about it but she just posted about typical shit like her body/pussy/pics of her in her underwear/bpd shit like eating disorders etc

u have a link?

it'll probably take at least another year before trial starts though, larson wants to drag this out

 

[starcrapoo]

He reminds me exactly of Mr. Prince white charming aka Stephen Paddock.

Both Paddock and Larson had filipina wives that they could go home to everyday, fuck, and talk to.

Yet to them thats wasn't really ascension and decide to throw it all away. Literally.

 

[Deleted member 22749]

If you're a white supremacist, having an asian wife is only a confirmation of your subhumanity. No matter how hard they openly cope, they know deep inside.

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

At 2:30 am on December 14th, 2020, Nathan Larson stopped by the home in a vehicle and left a minute later with the femoid. The next morning, the femoid's mother contacted the Fresno Police Department, who after interviewing one of the femoid's friends and a ticketing agent at Fresno airport, eventually traced both Larson and the femoid onto Frontier flight #494. You can guess what happens next: that same afternoon, Denver PD and the FBI intercepted Larson during their layover at Denver airport. The femoid was returned to her parents. A search warrant executed on his devices found child pornography. Larson now faces five federal charges, that if convicted, would result in a maximum sentence of three life sentences plus fifty years

Why are only two of the five charges listed at imgur.com/a/R1QKT7X ?

I'm also confused why they charged meeting w/ a minor for lewd purposes twice, was there a 2nd girl?

The little whore met up with him on her own accord, jfl at "abduct".

Do we actually know there was a 12 year old girl?

Couldn't this be like with Chris Hansen where some roastie LARPs as a preteen?

judging by her posts on his website she is genuinely a gigawhore with bpd and i guarantee shes sucked multiple dicks and been fucked by multiple guys since this occurred

can you PM me any background on this?

I had registered a couple times and lurked a bit but the place started weirding me out when a bunch of allegedly-female posters showed up which I was sure was 100% trannies in 40s

The fact that a white supremacist risked it all for a 12 year old noodlewhore is really the icing on the cake

Icing the cake is obviously the point

femoid he met on his website, which will remain unnamed

Have mods banned naming it BTW?

I don't even know what to call it since it rotated so much, I see to recall NC/FB/R-y

Kind of wonder how hapa daughter will turn out, I would be willing to take her out for dinner once she's in her 20s.

NGL jealous he got to have sex with a girl like that.

Augustine Blakely Larson striptease - Theshatteredpan

archived 29 Apr 2014 10:58:36 UTC

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seems when they met was on test and had hairy legs looking more masculine but then after they were together has hairless legs, so maybe stopped taking testosterone for the pregnancy?

 

[PPEcel]

Why are only two of the five charges listed at imgur.com/a/R1QKT7X ?

I'm also confused why they charged meeting w/ a minor for lewd purposes twice, was there a 2nd girl?

When Larson was initially extradited from Denver, CO to Fresno, CA he was being sought on state charges for the same crime. Those charges have since been withdrawn since the prosecution of Larson is proceeding at the federal level; he is still being held at the same jail but by the U.S. Marshals Service and not Fresno PD.

That it appears twice is probably a data entry mistake. You know how slow government work is.

Do we actually know there was a 12 year old girl?

Couldn't this be like with Chris Hansen where some roastie LARPs as a preteen?

can you PM me any background on this?

If it was a sting operation then the affidavit would clearly state as such, but it wasn't, there was indeed a 12-year-old femoid involved in the incident.

 

[Joey Cope Em]

a 12-year-old Californian femoid he met on his website, which will remain unnamed and has now been seized by federal law enforcement.

I like how you used the word seized like goods or an object instead of "rescued" because it's only a rescue if it's male and alive.

While incarcerated, Nathan Larson wrote two handwritten letters to the court asking that he be allowed to represent himself pro se and appear in court in person without a face covering. On April 21st, the court scheduled another hearing on April 28th on the issue of his competency to represent himself. Larson then wrote a 3rd letter asking that he be allowed to represent himself at said hearing.

The court denied Larson's motions on April 30th and scheduled another hearing for June.

If a man is in a law court, he should be allowed to speak if he wants. Can he trust a lawyer?

 

[epillepsy]

I like how you used the word seized like goods or an object instead of "rescued" because it's only a rescue if it's male and alive.

"seized" refers to "website."

 

[Joey Cope Em]

"seized" refers to "website."

I just wanted to make it look like the foid had been seized and will remain unnamed.

 

[epillepsy]

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No, he's referring to the foid.

maybe

 

[PPEcel]

maybe

I was referring to the website, not the femoid. The femoid was interviewed by the FBI and returned to her parents.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

The fact that a white supremacist risked it all for a 12 year old noodlewhore is really the icing on the cake, not to mention he has a noodlewhore wife and a hapa daughter

You can’t make this shit up

damn jfl mutt hapa maker mofo BTFO

If you're a white supremacist, having an asian wife is only a confirmation of your subhumanity. No matter how hard they openly cope, they know deep inside.

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

If it was a sting operation then the affidavit would clearly state as such, but it wasn't, there was indeed a 12-year-old femoid involved in the incident.

you have link for affidavit PDF? I only saw the record of arrest

anyway I'm skeptical it was kidnapping, Larson's attractive enough that it's feasible this was voluntary accompaniment so the move to have it reduced to lesser charges coudl be valid

doesn't mean it will stick of course, there was also good reason to reduce the Chauvin charges to lesser ones but that MAYBE gets fixed in appeal

If a man is in a law court, he should be allowed to speak if he wants. Can he trust a lawyer?

might not be able to trust one but I sort of understand the reason why they wouldn't want some mental retard ditching a lawyer and arguing their own case
the idea you need to present some level of competence does make sense
OTOH that could easily be exploited to stop someone mounting a good defense and having a bad attorney throw it

 

[PPEcel]

you have link for affidavit PDF? I only saw the record of arrest

complaint

anyway I'm skeptical it was kidnapping, Larson's attractive enough that it's feasible this was voluntary accompaniment so the move to have it reduced to lesser charges coudl be valid

For an adult to take a child they met online to the other side of the country is kidnapping.

doesn't mean it will stick of course, there was also good reason to reduce the Chauvin charges to lesser ones but that MAYBE gets fixed in appeal

Wishful thinking. Even if kidnapping charges are dropped, transportation and coercion/enticement charges each carry a maximum life sentence, and he isn't getting out of those. The evidence is overwhelming. He did this (ran his forums) as openly as possible on the clearweb.

OTOH that could easily be exploited to stop someone mounting a good defense and having a bad attorney throw it

Yeah, that's not how it works. Your attorney is a legal professional. A layman representing themselves in a major criminal trial is going to get destroyed.

 

[Linesnap99]

The little whore met up with him on her own accord, jfl at "abduct".

whoever came up with legal age BS.

 

[PPEcel]

whoever came up with legal age BS.

Don't think there is any country in the world where it would be legal to do what Larson did.

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

For an adult to take a child they met online to the other side of the country is kidnapping.

Eh you sure?

Just that what occurred may not have been a kidnapping. But unlawful transport.

It has to be without consent, though I guess perhaps there could be some kind of "statutory kidnapping" law on the books I'm not aware of.

If that's the case then how is it not statutory kidnapping to take a kid anywhere though?

Even if kidnapping charges are dropped, transportation and coercion/enticement charges each carry a maximum life sentence, and he isn't getting out of thos

Do you recall the specific numbers on the lawbooks so I can read about them? Not even sure what state book he's being charged under TBH

Don't think there is any country in the world where it would be legal to do what Larson did.

It's not entirely clear what he did to, but apparently he and the girl were in Denver together when arrested.

Age of consent in 12 in Sudan so probably would've been fine there. Apparently it's 9 in Yemen if you're married

 

[PPEcel]

Eh you sure?

Pretty fucking sure.

Do you recall the specific numbers on the lawbooks so I can read about them? Not even sure what state book he's being charged under TBH

Federal case. Read the indictment.

It's not entirely clear what he did to, but apparently he and the girl were in Denver together when arrested.

Age of consent in 12 in Sudan so probably would've been fine there. Apparently, it's 9 in Yemen if you're married

The weight of the evidence against him is overwhelming. He encouraged her to send explicit photos of herself online. As far as the U.S. government is concerned, that's producing and receiving child pornography. To put it in the mildest terms, he, a random stranger, enticed a child to run away with him without anyone else's knowledge. The age of consent is irrelevant here.

If that's the case then how is it not statutory kidnapping to take a kid anywhere though?

Yes, because this is clearly a case of "just taking a kid somewhere", what the hell is this kind of reasoning?

 

[Deleted member 33893]

The fact that a white supremacist risked it all for a 12 year old noodlewhore is really the icing on the cake, not to mention he has a noodlewhore wife and a hapa daughter



You can’t make this shit up

There is 0 proof of him being a white "supremacist" . Maybe he just hates blacks or jews idk. The Jews in media are trying really hard to pin white supremacy on everyone. Even half whites like Elliot are white supremacist so are light skinned Mexicans.

 

[PPEcel]

There is 0 proof of him being a white "supremacist" . Maybe he just hates blacks or jews idk. The Jews in media are trying really hard to pin white supremacy on everyone. Even half whites like Elliot are white supremacist so are light skinned Mexicans.

Nathan Larson for Congress campaign manifesto - Nathan Larson for Con…

archived 24 May 2018 20:12:59 UTC

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"Restore benevolent white supremacy"

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Nathan Larson for Congress campaign manifesto - Nathan Larson for Con…

archived 24 May 2018 20:12:59 UTC

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"Restore benevolent white supremacy"

It's laughable how badly that people want to defend this piece of human garbage

And what a surprise, they're mostly white

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

Pretty fucking sure.
Federal case. Read the indictment.

Please link me to a .gov page explaining the actual name/terms of the charge and to the indictment, this isn't being presented clearly.

The weight of the evidence against him is overwhelming. He encouraged her to send explicit photos of herself online.

What specifically did he say?
Also at that time is there evidence he actually knew how old she was?
Haven't actually seen pics of this girl but I know there are cases where old 12s can resemble young 18s.

As far as the U.S. government is concerned, that's producing and receiving child pornography.

I understand "receiving" but if she took pics herself wouldn't she be the producer?
There could be additional charge for "aiding and abetting" producing though, kind of like if you hire a hitman even if you don't commit a murder yourself you're still faciliating the crime.

To put it in the mildest terms, he, a random stranger, enticed a child to run away with him without anyone else's knowledge.

I'm not understanding how you can call him a "random stranger".

Wasn't the gist of this that they were chatting for weeks/months on Rapey leading up to this?

One solid defense I could see here is the impression I got of that place was it was a ridiculous LARPfest where guys were all "yeah I'm gonna rape over nine thousand newborn babies" for shock value rather than genuine expression of intent.

Given that atmosphere, I could see Larson actually thinking that anyone claiming to be an underage girl was just some LARPer and he was engaged in a RP session without an actual safe word.

The age of consent is irrelevant here.
Yes, because this is clearly a case of "just taking a kid somewhere", what the hell is this kind of reasoning?

I don't believe I used that phrase so I'm not sure why you are.

I'm just wanting to know the name/terms of the charge and an explanation of what he's alleged to have done to fit those parameters, which I'm still waiting on.

There is 0 proof of him being a white "supremacist" . Maybe he just hates blacks or jews idk. The Jews in media are trying really hard to pin white supremacy on everyone. Even half whites like Elliot are white supremacist so are light skinned Mexicans.

high-IQ

It's laughable how badly that people want to defend this piece of human garbage

Mainstream normies consider all of us to be human garbage, so you're not exactly making an endearing argument.

The more hate someone gets the more tempted I am to look at all angles and give them the benefit of the doubt

 

[PPEcel]

Please link me to a .gov page explaining the actual name/terms of the charge and to the indictment, this isn't being presented clearly.

https://pacer.uscourts.gov/ is the public access service for all U.S. federal court documents. I highly suggest registering for an account if you intend to actively follow a federal court case. Access fees are $0.10 per page. The title of the case is United States v. Larson and the docket number is 1:21-cr-00022. The court hearing the case is the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California. If you already have a PACER account then the indictment is linked here.

Or you could just read it here.

Spoiler

View: https://imgur.com/a/2umd2gz

What specifically did he say?
Also at that time is there evidence he actually knew how old she was?
Haven't actually seen pics of this girl but I know there are cases where old 12s can resemble young 18s.

There is a small excerpt of their conversations on Larson's website contained in the affidavit I previously linked. Here is pages 10-12 of the complaint:

Spoiler

Larson knew how old she was and what she looked like.

I understand "receiving" but if she took pics herself wouldn't she be the producer?
There could be additional charge for "aiding and abetting" producing though, kind of like if you hire a hitman even if you don't commit a murder yourself you're still faciliating the crime.

As far as U.S. law is concerned, if you ask a minor to send you nudes, that is sexual exploitation.

I'm not understanding how you can call him a "random stranger".

Wasn't the gist of this that they were chatting for weeks/months on Rapey leading up to this?

That makes him a random stranger. I've been chatting with people here for years, with a small number of exceptions I have no idea who they are IRL.

One solid defense I could see here is the impression I got of that place was it was a ridiculous LARPfest where guys were all "yeah I'm gonna rape over nine thousand newborn babies" for shock value rather than genuine expression of intent.

Given that atmosphere, I could see Larson actually thinking that anyone claiming to be an underage girl was just some LARPer and he was engaged in a RP session without an actual safe word.

Yeah, but roleplayers don't ask for and upload actual child pornography. Nor do they fly across the country and ask a 12-year-old to wear a wig and pretend to be disabled so they can travel together without drawing suspicion.

Mainstream normies consider all of us to be human garbage, so you're not exactly making an endearing argument.

The more hate someone gets the more tempted I am to look at all angles and give them the benefit of the doubt

Look, I defended Larson's freedom of expression on multiple occasions over the first half of 2020 when his website had all of 3 members and all of them were just being edgy, but this really is just stupid. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to think that you could even get away with it? Oh, I'm just going to take this random kid across the country. Her parents definitely aren't going to look for her. The gazillion cameras that are present in every airport post-9/11 definitely aren't going to catch me and the kid and put 2+2 together.

 

[rope2cope]

SQUARE NATHAN LARSON

 

[PPEcel]

SQUARE NATHAN LARSON

?

 

[rope2cope]

?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFKkqLaucmo&ab_channel=BummerDrummerBummerDrummer

 

[Pain And Hatred]

The fact that a white supremacist risked it all for a 12 year old noodlewhore is really the icing on the cake, not to mention he has a noodlewhore wife and a hapa daughter

You can’t make this shit up

mayo monkeys, especially cracker supremacist should not be taken seriously for this exact reason here.

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

There is a small excerpt of their conversations on Larson's website contained in the affidavit I previously linked. Here is pages 10-12 of the complaint:

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Larson knew how old she was and what she looked like.

These three are helping to build a picture, thanks.

Given that the girl's real name is protected, knowing she used the alias "Ewwieme" is helpful since we can call her that.

What stands out to me on page 9 (10 of 15) is the 15 nov 2020 comment, Nathan mentions "standards for men and women" which I think are terms which imply adulthood.

Regarding the November 30th comment any idea wtf "Faerie.su" was supposed to be? I know .su was one of the seven domain extensions that Rapey had cycled through (not sure in what order) so was this another of his sites I hadn't known about?

Without actually seeing what was posted in the thread "bro-I-have-makeup.26" it's hard to say if she looked like she could've been above age of consent.

30th is also when Ewwie mentions to him "I would be willing to run away with you" which sounds like a natural counter to a "kidnapping" interpretation. Clearly doesn't sound like forced abduction.

December 1st he says "I saw you're turning 13 soon" however which SEEMS like an acknowledgement of her being 12, unless of course it's a typo and he meant to type 23, in which case he would've thought she was 22.

Even if 13 was what he intended to write, there's still the question of whether it's all just a massive LARP to him. It was really dififcult to tell when Larson was shitposting wher truth ended and fiction began.

Dec 2nd Larson says to her "someone reported an underage nude on faerie" which makes it sound like he was an admin for that site.

As far as U.S. law is concerned, if you ask a minor to send you nudes, that is sexual exploitation.

I think only if you first established they were a minor.

A technicality in these pages is when Larson expresses desire to see her nude it's BEFORE stating her age. After he mentions the age you don't see any more requests.

That makes him a random stranger. I've been chatting with people here for years, with a small number of exceptions I have no idea who they are IRL.

Not knowing someone's IRL dox doesn't mean they're a stranger or random IMO. We should come up with some other term for that.

Yeah, but roleplayers don't ask for and upload actual child pornography.

re the 'upload' part is that referencing his Dec 2nd "babydoll do you wanna see come CP" question?

Again though: how do I know he wasn't just posting some 2D loli which normies call CP?

That's the thing about it being illegal to view, civilians trying to assess the case can't actually look at all the evidence to see if it's being interpreted fairly.

Like for all I know the "CP" he refers to is that comic of "Hiloli Clinton" getting fucked in a limo by Trump or some crap.

Nor do they fly across the country and ask a 12-year-old to wear a wig and pretend to be disabled so they can travel together without drawing suspicion.

Transcripts of that part?

Look, I defended Larson's freedom of expression on multiple occasions over the first half of 2020 when his website had all of 3 members and all of them were just being edgy, but this really is just stupid. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to think that you could even get away with it?

Larson seems like a very intelligent guy TBH, at least at times, I think horniness and orbiting tend to make one reckless and optimistic, I guess?

Oh, I'm just going to take this random kid across the country. Her parents definitely aren't going to look for her.

To be fair, some parents are shitty and don't put much of an effort into parenting, so that would depend on what he was told about them?

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

@PPEcel catching up on the recent stuff from April to supplement your February stuff

This is going to be very entertaining, in self-representing he's moving that the trial be held mask-free because of the importance of facial expressions

 

[PPEcel]

@PPEcel catching up on the recent stuff from April to supplement your February stuff

This is going to be very entertaining, in self-representing he's moving that the trial be held mask-free because of the importance of facial expressions

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Yeah, the court said no.

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

Yeah, the court said no.

How long after april 27 did he get that reply?

TBH it seems like he makes a fair point about that, defense should have equal access to tech and databases and real-time research as prosecution.

I guess their counterpoint is something like "you just want to get on the internet to cause drama and solicit CP from more girls".

Seems like a catch 22 situation though, it's like essentially they're prohibiting people accused of internet crimes of competently representing themselves which infringes on their rights.

 

[PPEcel]

How long after april 27 did he get that reply?

TBH it seems like he makes a fair point about that, defense should have equal access to tech and databases and real-time research as prosecution.

I guess their counterpoint is something like "you just want to get on the internet to cause drama and solicit CP from more girls".

Seems like a catch 22 situation though, it's like essentially they're prohibiting people accused of internet crimes of competently representing themselves which infringes on their rights.

On a hearing on the 30th.

Um, whether Larson is allowed to proceed pro se or not, he's not getting internet access. I don't think the court's decision to prevent him from proceeding pro se during the competency hearing has infringed on Larson's rights.

Larson has every right to an attorney. He has no presumption to proceed pro se.

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

whether Larson is allowed to proceed pro se or not, he's not getting internet access. I don't think the court's decision to prevent him from proceeding pro se during the competency hearing has infringed on Larson's rights.

Larson has every right to an attorney. He has no presumption to proceed pro se.

I can understand why he might not want one though, since he might question whether an attorney would defend him enthusiastically or know how to navigate the forum archives for potentially mitigating statements.

 

[PPEcel]

I can understand why he might not want one though, since he might question whether an attorney would defend him enthusiastically or know how to navigate the forum archives for potentially mitigating statements.

That's why it's important to communicate with your attorney. Enthusiastic or not, they are professionally obligated to defend their clients to the best of their ability.

Going it alone is always a bad idea in a major criminal trial. This isn't a parking ticket.

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

Enthusiastic or not, they are professionally obligated to defend their clients to the best of their ability.

In THEORY but in practice there are ways around this.

 

[rope2cope]

Update: Attorney Nathan Larson ESQ has successfully defended himself against kidnapping charges.

 

[PPEcel]

Update: Attorney Nathan Larson ESQ has successfully defended himself against kidnapping charges.

Ha