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Discussion Trans-women are not women & Trans-men are not men no matter how much Big-Tech & SJWs try and shove the delusion down our throats

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Sex and Gender have been used interchangeably going on forever and their meanings are inextricably linked. We call someone “him” or “her” depending on their biological sex/depending on what they are, not based on what they wish they were. To do so is to indulge delusion which I don't think is healthy.

Said another way, what I want to be has no bearing on what I am and it's baffling that this conversation even exists. Wanting to be the other thing doesn’t magically change my chromosomes and even a post op trans individual can only be considered the other sex if we loosen or alter our definitions. That’s really what it comes down to — who’s definition do we use, but there remain apparent differences between say a natural born male and a trans male for example.

Consider a natural born female VS a trans female. Consider how different these two things are -- one cannot bear children. One has fake/non-functional breasts. One has a different set of chromosomes. These are clearly different things and there remains a discernible and apparent difference between the two of them yet acknowledging the truth/reality results in your being attacked and outright banned/censored en masse.

People often bring up intersex to bolster the view that there are tons of genders and to posit that whether one is male or female is not so straight forward, but it's stupid that this is trotted out as anything close to a valid argument when it's not. Intersex people are a genetic anomaly and are not representative of the normal population. You don’t use an outlier to establish a normal baseline. This is the dumbest fucking talking point that pro trans people use to justify their ridiculous position and even if we did, then you'd have 3 genders, not the plethora we're now told insistently exist.

Moreover, expressing this position gets you immediately labeled as """"""Transphobic""""""" which is incorrect and non-sequitor at the baseline. Transphobia suggests a fear or perhaps dislike or even hatred for the group — I don’t personally dislike or fear (lol) trans folk as people and I fully agree that they can do whatever the fuck they want to themselves if they're consenting adults, but I do disagree with their reasoning and position in light of what I’ve described above. That’s not transphobia though, it's attacking a position rather than an individual -- but try getting that through to these fucking retard big-tech SJW types over on Le Reddit/Twitter (etc) my lord.

Do the trans person/big tech/SJWs hold a terribly reasoned and irrational position? Yes -- yes they absolutely do and they're wrong. They take it further than being wrong to boot which is the worst part by trying to force everyone else to indulge their delusion lest you be "cancelled" and attacked/have your reputation destroyed.

I had an account banned off of "Le Reddit" awhile back for explaining this (I know, shit site) and it's honestly pathetic that since they can't win the actual argument they immediately resort to the Ad Hominem fallacy (same as they do with the insult of "incels") and they ban/censor you to protect their bullshit retarded ideas. These people can't handle the truth and want to force everyone else to indulge their delusion.
Going on a bit, this is why the whole "Apache Helicopter" joke is funny -- because my wishing I was female lets say for sake of example is no different or better than my wishing I was an Apache Helicopter -- I simply am not that thing full stop, I am something else and no amount of delusion makes it so.

You know what the SJWs do though? They say, "Hey, but imagine if Apache Attack Helicopter meant X instead of Y -- imagine if we just changed the definition so that it now meant something else that I want it to." This is what they've attempted and seem to have largely succeeded at doing with the word "Gender" which now the mainstream is convinced means "whatever someone identifies as" -- which is delusional horse shit.

You can't say a Tomato is now a Spade to shovel your bullshit argument -- yah know, because words mean things. We live in a world commitment to reality and to reason gets you labeled as a monster and you're unable to even engage in debate because the big tech platforms will ban you out and the masses will destroy your reputation -- even when you're correct and they are incorrect. Similar trend for Incels in general for that matter in the sense that incels are broadly correct about women/the state of western society if you even you even remotely keep up with dating (online/speed dating) and sex studies for example (see the compilation of blackpill science studies on incels.wiki for example), but I digress... God I'm glad this board exists -- finally some fucking sanity.
 
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we have retarded sjws giving their children puberty blockers because they want their kids to choose their own gender

the fuck?

also in the education system, they shove lefttist propaganda down the children's throats, most teachers being women does not help the male students at all

the future generation will be even more cucked than now, certainly not looking good
 
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Broly said:
we have retarded sjws giving their children puberty blockers because they want their kids to choose their own gender

the fuck?
The state of society, there is no going back from this
 
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Broly said:
we have retarded sjws giving their children puberty blockers because they want their kids to choose their own gender

the fuck?

also in the education system, they shove lefttist propaganda down the children's throats, most teachers being women does not help the male students at all
It is honestly hilarious to see the same people on the one hand condemning pedophilia and espousing the importance of "consent" while at the same exact time saying that children should be allowed to be put on hormone therapy to switch their gender.

Literal doublethinking fucking retards mate. And what's worse, there's no discourse and no disagreement tolerated or permitted on mainstream social media platforms like Twitter/Reddit, etc. You're immediately censored and outright banned if you push it.

Big Tech has way waaaaaaaaaaaay too much power and we need laws to protect people and to allow free expression and debate without censorship seems to me. Big Tech needs to be regulated.
 
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Oh, and that reminds me of another huge point of hypocrisy from these idiots.

Remember the whole bakery debacle where the couple refused to serve a gay couple? I'm not religious myself, but these same people I'm referring to in my post got all up in arms then saying that they Private Business shouldn't be allowed to do that, but nowadays they're all gung-ho that, "Well, private businesses can do what they want and censor who they please" then they go on to call everyone else establishment bootlickers just fucking lol.

These people have no self awareness -- the moment the shoe is on the other foot and its their group being censored/attacked/pushed out they change their tune in a heartbeat. Honestly fuck big tech and fuck modern day SJW types, they're evil and their positions are bluntly incorrect often times to boot. Which might be more tolerable if people were actually allowed to disagree and not play along without having their reputations destroyed.
 
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xatoshii said:
The state of society, there is no going back from this
there really is not, western soyciety has been cucked to oblivion
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It is honestly hilarious to see the same people on the one hand condemning pedophilia and espousing the importance of "consent" while at the same exact time saying that children should be allowed to be put on hormone therapy to switch their gender.
those idiots are just ruining the lives of their kids
 
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The state of society, there is no going back from this
:feelsclown::feelsclown::feelsclown: :dafuckfeels:
 
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Even trans foids are chad only.
 
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Fags are what, 1% of the population? Lesbian women are slightly higher and bisexual women are quite common. But trannies are less than 0,1% of the population.
The only reason why such minority is even shilled because it promotes a high level of insanity among the populace.
 
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Broly said:
we have retarded sjws giving their children puberty blockers because they want their kids to choose their own gender

the fuck?

also in the education system, they shove lefttist propaganda down the children's throats, most teachers being women does not help the male students at all

the future generation will be even more cucked than now, certainly not looking good
the state of america, that's just god awful
 
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Tenshi said:
the state of america, that's just god awful
if we say anything bad about it we're called evil misogynists, homophobes, transphobes, bigots
 
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Broly said:
we have retarded sjws giving their children puberty blockers because they want their kids to choose their own gender

the fuck?

also in the education system, they shove lefttist propaganda down the children's throats, most teachers being women does not help the male students at all

the future generation will be even more cucked than now, certainly not looking good
I missed before but your point on most teachers being women is an excellent point. Most men are raised by women (women are much more frequently the stay at home parent) and women are teachers much more than are men.

Undoubtedly tons of lads are getting brainwashed with the gynocentric viewpoint.
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Fags are what, 1% of the population? Lesbian women are slightly higher and bisexual women are quite common. But trannies are less than 0,1% of the population.
The only reason why such minority is even shilled because it promotes a high level of insanity among the populace.
It is really agitating that the people that own/operate big tech and social media have to force their own beliefs into everyone else. Horribly to the extent that they literally just silence anyone who disagrees with them. We should have laws to protect against that kind of thing but good fucking luck.
 
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cvh1991 said:
I missed before but your point on most teachers being women is an excellent point. Most men are raised by women (women are much more frequently the stay at home parent) and women are teachers much more than are men.

Undoubtedly tons of lads are getting brainwashed with the gynocentric viewpoint.

It is really agitating that the people that own/operate big tech and social media have to force their own beliefs into everyone else. Horribly to the extent that they literally just silence anyone who disagrees with them. We should have laws to protect against that kind of thing but good fucking luck.
yea you hate to see it

they wont have male figures in their lives whatsoever because soyciety sees every man that isnt good looking as evil
 
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Obviously. I can always assume the person I am talking to is a fucking moron if they ever try and insist a mentally ill person is exactly what their delusion says they are.
By this logic, we could all be transChads and could shame foids for not fucking us
 
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if we say anything bad about it we're called evil misogynists, homophobes, transphobes, bigots
Nailed it mate, it’s because they can’t actually win the argument so they must turn to Ad Hominem/censorship instead. The sad thing is that it works.
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Obviously. I can always assume the person I am talking to is a fucking moron if they ever try and insist a mentally ill person is exactly what their delusion says they are.
By this logic, we could all be transChads and could shame foids for not fucking us
Lol based
 
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Nailed it mate, it’s because they can’t actually win the argument so they must turn to Ad Hominem/censorship instead. The sad thing is that it works.
yea

look at social media, any person who tries to go against the lefist agenda is cancelled
 
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Broly said:
yea

look at social media, any person who tries to go against the lefist agenda is cancelled
Yup, and then they say "go make your own platform then" but then also want to take those down as well -- look at what happened to the old incels.co board or "Parler" for example.

Once again I'll bring up that whole bakery debacle to point out their own hypocrisy -- funny how when people for that scenario were telling them that they should "open their own bakery" they lost their minds, but now that the shoe is on the other foot the hypocrisy is apparent. Nothing worse than a hypocrite to me.
 
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long post to say "water is wet"
 
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Do they think life lets you customize your fucking character?

No one can choose who they are in this world :feelsseriously:
 
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cvh1991 said:
Yup, and then they say "go make your own platform then" but then also want to take those down as well -- look at what happened to the old incels.co board or "Parler" for example.

Once again I'll bring up that whole bakery debacle to point out their own hypocrisy -- funny how when people for that scenario were telling them that they should "open their own bakery" they lost their minds, but now that the shoe is on the other foot the hypocrisy is apparent. Nothing worse than a hypocrite to me.
i hate this leftist progressive cucked soyciety
 
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The section on language/words is interesting, thanks for the link
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Do they think life lets you customize your fucking character?

No one can choose who they are in this world :feelsseriously:
Agreed, it’s no different than my identifying as fucking giga-Chad, it’s delusional nonsense, but people have been bullied into indulging it while those pushing it are genuinely delusional.
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long post to say "water is wet"
Yeah, but I think it’s worth the effort to explain/go through one’s reasoning from time to time. At this point I’ve seen the same debate hashed out on other platforms and it always ends with the bullies lobbing Ad Homs and calling the realists “””””transphobic””””” then those who refuse to bend the knee to this woke nonsense are banned/censored because they break some “”””””harassment”””” policy.

You know, because telling the truth and not playing along with another persons delusion is now “”””harassment”””” and these fools can’t differentiate between attacking an irrational position and bullying a group personally — probably since their identities are wrapped up so much in this one position that they “feel” personally attacked.
 
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Retard American soys will also tell you that if you can’t tell the difference between tranny and real female visually then that’s proof they’re female, completely ignoring their years of male socialisation, and male neurological processes. Not to mention taking pills and having surgeries does not qualify as womanhood lol
 
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Some 3 year old boy picks up a Barbie doll

"That means he identifies as a female! Get him a dress and some estrogen! NOW!" :soy:
 
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cvh1991 said:
The section on language/words is interesting, thanks for the link
It's the ideology underpinning all the insane shit currently occurring in society. The idea that reality isn't reality, it can be deconstructed and shaped into whatever the fuck you want.
 
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A gynocentric Agenda thats all this is.
 
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existentialhack said:
It's the ideology underpinning all the insane shit currently occurring in society. The idea that reality isn't reality, it can be deconstructed and shaped into whatever the fuck you want.
Yup, nailed it mate
 
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Absolutely based. Thread should be pinned.
i hope christians are right and all fags go to hell
Even though i don’t believe in anything religious related
 
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ThePopeofCope said:
Obviously. I can always assume the person I am talking to is a fucking moron if they ever try and insist a mentally ill person is exactly what their delusion says they are.
By this logic, we could all be transChads and could shame foids for not fucking us
Exactly
 
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Nukethisgayearth said:
Absolutely based. Thread should be pinned.
Thanks man :feelsYall:
 
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