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Traditional conservatives and other resource hoarding men are selfish and anti-male

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A riff on a video by Analyzing Male Slavery . Many, but not all of the core ideas here are present in his video:

Traditionalism for the self and not the many

Right-wing and traditionally conservative men like “Stardusk” and “Turd Flinging Monkey” nowadays only join the army, work in public service, or join traditional work spaces to gain resources, women, and benefit the self. Has nothing to do with helping other workers, patriotism or politics, or bettering society. Many left wing and right wing men only use politics for social networking or for the purposes of gaining status. Right-wingers chastise leftists for “virtue signaling” in the political space, but at least standing for something like universal health care is a signal to people other than women.

The “I am going to work to provide for my woman” antisociability destroys the workplace and makes it miserable for everyone. I have had to work with men who only work for women, and it is unbearable. Once a task has to get done, they focus only on their individual quota and do a minimal amount of work for a paycheck to bribe a woman with. Every prominent manospherian is guilty of this. They describe having served in public service, but they talk about it only in personal terms and for mate guarding. Their ideology is purely selfish, it serves no purpose other than to defend past and future selfishness and male resource hoarding.

The nuclear family is only an extension of tournament mating, not anything particularly pro-male

And these "pro-male" youtubers will defend the nuclear family to no end. The nuclear family is only feel-good because of stories of a time long-gone, in our current society the nuclear family is sociopathic. Every family exists separate from one another in competition with one another.

To most manospherians, and actually most ideological monogamists, monogamous marriage is a "righteous" epitome of antisociability. Raised by other selfishly minded people who fed them medieval fairy tales of romance, they want to "conquer" women, and see themselvs as a sexually successful versoin of themselves as"kings" of a society they hate. Not as a fellow man, but as a king. They frame sexual success as domination over other men. These types of people should be banished from pro-male spaces.

When society is in crisis, the last thing people should do is isolate into family units. This makes absolutely no sense. Sex should only be for recreation in times of political upheaval or moral decay. People have no purpose reproducing when future generations will suffer without societal change.

These people unfortunately have influence
Turd Flinging Monkey is teaching millions of men who watch his videos to live like him. He has made it clear he has no intention on giving to society. His entire channel is about removing himself from society as a whole and engaging in total degeneracy while pretending to be anti-degeneracy. TFM sells sex toys on his channel.

Delusions of enforcing monogamy individually

In a long and boring recent discussion on Youtube, the Youtuber Stardusk makes it clear he thinks he can preserve monogamy in his own household without contributing to any social movement, even a tradcon one. Pointless and ineffective. It won’t work.

The delusion of thinking being a provider means being pro-male

He thinks providing for women means he is “in charge”. Stardusk’s wife just joined the church to find some delusional tradcon sucker. Being a male in a monogamous tradcon relationship is being a slave. Stardusk thinks it makes him a platonic ideal of a patriarch. XD

Tradcons co-opt religion for purely selfish reasons
On Religion, these new MGTOW, redpill, blackpill, and manospherian men have no true belief in religion. There is no reason behind his tradcon religiousity besides status and resources, gaining a wife, and mateguarding. Which would be normal enough, even I have considered such a thing, but Stardusk claims he is in it for more. Which he is not.

Having a stay-at-home wife is forfeiture in our current society
These state they are pro-male by advocating for stay-at-home wives. This is ridiculous. Men should not accept stay at home wives if women refuse to accept stay at home husbands societally. Anything else is gynocentric garbage
 
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JFL at "muh contribute to society"

I'd take it a step further than the guys you are talking about, and actively trying to destroy society and create anarchy, rather than merely hoard resources
 
Only the leftist mind wants to protect a diverse and hypergamous society. These tradcons share the ideals of traditionalists from the past, but are unable to practice it rightly, due to legal restrictions. Few men are willing to sacrifice themselves to protect traditional values. And honestly, I couldn't give one single fuck about mating at this point. I was rejected from a young age, I know my place in the hierarchy.

Foids think that dick value has never been lower but that's only projection. Obesity rates have only continued to ascend. If women aren't willing to lose weight, they don't value genuine male interest. Studies show that first world men desire a low waist to hip ratio. Porn has made men even more interested in perfect female body. Women's response to this has been to push fat acceptance.

I will fight to see this shit destroyed before I will ever lay my life on the line to protect it.
 
Many conservatives today are actually neoliberals, it's nearly impossible to have collectivism or communities with modern day capitalism and individualism. If they actually tried to conserve anything in these decades instead of hoarding money and spitting on their dogma for votes and more capital, we wouldn't have to live in Sodom and Gomorrah today. There is nothing wrong with nuclear family or wife at home if patriarchy is the societal norm, i do not agree with the nihilistic and hedonistic view of sex and not having kids in harder times, not only are you placing humans on the primal levels of degradation, it is also a selfish and banal excuse. People had kids and kept faith in worse conditions and harder times, without children there is no future or hope for a society turning to better, many great leaders in history lived or rose trough hard times.
 
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JFL at "muh contribute to society"

I'd take it a step further than the guys you are talking about, and actively trying to destroy society and create anarchy, rather than merely hoard resources
It's interesting that this society has been all about chasing selfish desires, but when there's a terrorist attack, they start screaming for unity.
 
People had kids and kept faith in worse conditions and harder times, without children there is no future or hope for a society turning to better, many great leaders in history lived or rose trough hard times.

Reproducing to preserve the population when there is tremendous resource scarcity is fine and it's why people had tons of babies in horrible conditions pre-industry. However, beyond racialist arguments, there really are no arguments for continuing the rates of reproduction we have now. Even in wealthy countries where the population increase is already slowing down, a decrease in reproduction would only be a good thing for the environment, other animals, and abandoned children.

And as far as casual or non-marriage sex being hedonistic. Sometimes, sure. Sex for most of homo-sapien history was never consciously about reproduction. Obviously something being natural does not make it good, usually the opposite. But I really don't see casual sex with protection and a good attitude as any more harmful than eating an apple.
 
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It's interesting that this society has been all about chasing selfish desires, but when there's a terrorist attack, they start screaming for unity.

JFL exactly, that person is just taking "selfishness" a few steps further, normies love arbitrary distinctions
 

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