Kids.is cels need not apply, this thread is for grown adults only.
First, we must establish the following - there are few things that foids hate more than virgin men and the ugliness that comes with it. It’s no secret, when incel is their go to insult for so many situations. Even men who have had sex are called incels, because it’s just too powerful of an insult to pass up. This is similar to how one might call a white man a nigger, despite him clearly not being black. Nigger is simply to powerful of an insult to let the truth get in the way of it. For the vast majority of foids “incel” is their “nigger”.
Virgin men are so often shamed and mocked in media, and in recent times it has become normal to refer to them as terrorists, and a threat to national security, for literally no reason other than their sexlessness. If you disagree with this statement, go and ask a random foid what she thinks of incels, and you’ll see the truth in my words.
Now that we’ve established this, imagine if you somehow got a girl interested in you. Bear with me, even if just for a moment, and imagine that you somehow managed to impress a foid enough to go on a date with her.
The average age to lose your virginity is 17. Before that you’ll have gone on dates, and had your first kiss. I’m 21 now. If I were to somehow go on a date I wouldn’t know what to say, I wouldn’t know how to message her before and after the date, I wouldn’t know how to kiss, and if all else somehow went smoothly, I certainly wouldn’t know how to have sex.
My point is, that regardless of anything I do, regardless of anything I try or say, my inexperience would inevitably betray me. If I somehow managed to get a foid interested in me, said interest would dry up in seconds the moment she caught on to my inceldom.
This creates a paradox of sorts, after all, how could anyone ever gain the required experience to have sex if having sex is a prerequisite to having sex? It makes no sense at all… on paper, that is.
The reality is that there’s a period during which it’s fine to be a virgin. Although you will certainly find some foids mocking young teenage boys for their sexlessness, these are a minority of foids, and the younger you go the smaller this pool gets. Sure, many foids would mock a boy as young as 16 years old for his sexlessness, (I myself was mocked for it at this age) but would any of them mock a 3 year old? None but an extreme, insane minority of them. Following this then, there must exist a certain point where it is acceptable to be a virgin, while also being old enough that there isn’t an impossible stigma around said sexlessness. It would be awkward and difficult to lose your virginity at 19, but it would not be impossible. It would be easier at 18, albeit still difficult, but when we get to around the age of 15 or 16 the stigma around sexlessness (although it exists) is relatively negligible and losing your virginity is not too difficult so long as you aren’t a sub5.
However, we have lost this opportunity. Even if we looksmaxxed as hard as we could, and managed to reach at least a 6 lookswise, we would never be able to reach such a level of attraction that it would be capable of overcoming our lack of experience. A 30 year old, entirely inexperienced man could certainly lose his virginity overnight if he magically became a 10/10. However, if you are on this forum and belong here, it’s certainly not feasible for you to achieve even a 7/10 rating lookswise, even at absolute peak looksmaxxing you would never be able to reach such a level to where your inexperience was irrelevant.
At this point, the issue becomes that it is simply too late. No amount of looksmaxxing or self improooovement will help a man of my age. Even if I were to reach a lofty 6/10 lookswise (unlikely) my lack of experience would scare off the few women I managed to attract.
We missed our opportunity. We were left behind, and will never be whole. The mere stigma around our situation is more than enough to keep us within inceldom, and we would all be lucky if the stigma was the only challenge we had to deal with.
It is my current belief that I have looksmaxxed to my maximum, and yet absolutely nothing has changed. There is nothing I can do aside from major surgeries and other expensive medical procedures such as taking testosterone in order to further improve my appearance.
In my current scenario, I see absolutely no point in continuing to pursue women. It is simply an impossible task. The window of possibility has passed, and it is impossible to ascend at this age.
il faut imaginer Sisyphe heureux.
One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
It was Albert Camus’ idea that despite his circumstances, Sisyphus found an absurd joy in his life. But Sisyphus’ joy did not come from the hope of one day pushing the boulder to the top of the mountain, for he knew this was impossible.
Sisyphus’ found his happiness in the simplicity of things. He did not need to worry or strive for anything, all he had to do was push the boulder. Animals do not seek fulfillment or greater meaning, and neither did Sisyphus. And so, I will not either. I will keep existing, and I find a strange sort of comfort in the idea that there was never a chance. I do not have to worry about finding a woman, I do not have to worry about ascension, I do not have to worry about having sex. These things were not meant for me, and it is now too late to reach them.
Perhaps things could have gone differently. Perhaps I could have ascended if I had looksmaxxed at the age of 14. Perhaps if I had turned left instead of right I could have bumped into the one foid who would have given me a chance.
None of that matters now. This fight is over, and I lost. There’s a strange comfort in that idea. There was never any hope from the beginning, and so I no longer need to worry nor try. I will keep existing, and seek my happiness in other things, instead of fighting uselessly to make the impossible happen, I will accept that the time for that has passed, and seek other accomplishments.
There is no meaning, and there is no chance to succeed in life, not anymore. I have failed in the inherent goal of all living beings - to reproduce.
And yet it doesn’t matter, the past cannot be changed. I will keep existing as a failure because it is the only thing I can do.
Tl;dr: it’s too late to ascend anymore, our inexperience will always catch up to us. I missed my opportunity and I have made peace with this, for I can do nothing else.
First, we must establish the following - there are few things that foids hate more than virgin men and the ugliness that comes with it. It’s no secret, when incel is their go to insult for so many situations. Even men who have had sex are called incels, because it’s just too powerful of an insult to pass up. This is similar to how one might call a white man a nigger, despite him clearly not being black. Nigger is simply to powerful of an insult to let the truth get in the way of it. For the vast majority of foids “incel” is their “nigger”.
Virgin men are so often shamed and mocked in media, and in recent times it has become normal to refer to them as terrorists, and a threat to national security, for literally no reason other than their sexlessness. If you disagree with this statement, go and ask a random foid what she thinks of incels, and you’ll see the truth in my words.
Now that we’ve established this, imagine if you somehow got a girl interested in you. Bear with me, even if just for a moment, and imagine that you somehow managed to impress a foid enough to go on a date with her.
The average age to lose your virginity is 17. Before that you’ll have gone on dates, and had your first kiss. I’m 21 now. If I were to somehow go on a date I wouldn’t know what to say, I wouldn’t know how to message her before and after the date, I wouldn’t know how to kiss, and if all else somehow went smoothly, I certainly wouldn’t know how to have sex.
My point is, that regardless of anything I do, regardless of anything I try or say, my inexperience would inevitably betray me. If I somehow managed to get a foid interested in me, said interest would dry up in seconds the moment she caught on to my inceldom.
This creates a paradox of sorts, after all, how could anyone ever gain the required experience to have sex if having sex is a prerequisite to having sex? It makes no sense at all… on paper, that is.
The reality is that there’s a period during which it’s fine to be a virgin. Although you will certainly find some foids mocking young teenage boys for their sexlessness, these are a minority of foids, and the younger you go the smaller this pool gets. Sure, many foids would mock a boy as young as 16 years old for his sexlessness, (I myself was mocked for it at this age) but would any of them mock a 3 year old? None but an extreme, insane minority of them. Following this then, there must exist a certain point where it is acceptable to be a virgin, while also being old enough that there isn’t an impossible stigma around said sexlessness. It would be awkward and difficult to lose your virginity at 19, but it would not be impossible. It would be easier at 18, albeit still difficult, but when we get to around the age of 15 or 16 the stigma around sexlessness (although it exists) is relatively negligible and losing your virginity is not too difficult so long as you aren’t a sub5.
However, we have lost this opportunity. Even if we looksmaxxed as hard as we could, and managed to reach at least a 6 lookswise, we would never be able to reach such a level of attraction that it would be capable of overcoming our lack of experience. A 30 year old, entirely inexperienced man could certainly lose his virginity overnight if he magically became a 10/10. However, if you are on this forum and belong here, it’s certainly not feasible for you to achieve even a 7/10 rating lookswise, even at absolute peak looksmaxxing you would never be able to reach such a level to where your inexperience was irrelevant.
At this point, the issue becomes that it is simply too late. No amount of looksmaxxing or self improooovement will help a man of my age. Even if I were to reach a lofty 6/10 lookswise (unlikely) my lack of experience would scare off the few women I managed to attract.
We missed our opportunity. We were left behind, and will never be whole. The mere stigma around our situation is more than enough to keep us within inceldom, and we would all be lucky if the stigma was the only challenge we had to deal with.
It is my current belief that I have looksmaxxed to my maximum, and yet absolutely nothing has changed. There is nothing I can do aside from major surgeries and other expensive medical procedures such as taking testosterone in order to further improve my appearance.
In my current scenario, I see absolutely no point in continuing to pursue women. It is simply an impossible task. The window of possibility has passed, and it is impossible to ascend at this age.
il faut imaginer Sisyphe heureux.
One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
It was Albert Camus’ idea that despite his circumstances, Sisyphus found an absurd joy in his life. But Sisyphus’ joy did not come from the hope of one day pushing the boulder to the top of the mountain, for he knew this was impossible.
Sisyphus’ found his happiness in the simplicity of things. He did not need to worry or strive for anything, all he had to do was push the boulder. Animals do not seek fulfillment or greater meaning, and neither did Sisyphus. And so, I will not either. I will keep existing, and I find a strange sort of comfort in the idea that there was never a chance. I do not have to worry about finding a woman, I do not have to worry about ascension, I do not have to worry about having sex. These things were not meant for me, and it is now too late to reach them.
Perhaps things could have gone differently. Perhaps I could have ascended if I had looksmaxxed at the age of 14. Perhaps if I had turned left instead of right I could have bumped into the one foid who would have given me a chance.
None of that matters now. This fight is over, and I lost. There’s a strange comfort in that idea. There was never any hope from the beginning, and so I no longer need to worry nor try. I will keep existing, and seek my happiness in other things, instead of fighting uselessly to make the impossible happen, I will accept that the time for that has passed, and seek other accomplishments.
There is no meaning, and there is no chance to succeed in life, not anymore. I have failed in the inherent goal of all living beings - to reproduce.
And yet it doesn’t matter, the past cannot be changed. I will keep existing as a failure because it is the only thing I can do.
Tl;dr: it’s too late to ascend anymore, our inexperience will always catch up to us. I missed my opportunity and I have made peace with this, for I can do nothing else.
