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In this post, I'll explain what I mean by "love", "romance", "affection", "validation", I'll explain why I think we naturally crave those things, and I'll try to refute some of the counter-arguments I've seen here.
Love (sexual): A strong feeling of sexual attraction towards a particular female that makes us want to court her, fuck her, make sure other males don't fuck her, protect her, care for her, etc (pair bond). The feeling of love for a female can be reciprocated genuinely if you're attractive. If you're ugly then you can only hope for fake love at best (betabuxx).
Romance: The process of courtship and pair-bonding that occurs when a male is trying to reproduce with a female and guarantee the future of his offspring. It doesn't last long, and the way it is carried out differs from culture to culture.
Affection (with your sexual partner): Basically the same thing as love. It is expressed physically, verbally, and with actions. Kissing, caressing, cuddling, spooning, hugging, sweet taking (simping nowadays) are some examples of affection.
Validation (from a sexual partner): The feeling of reward you get when she reciprocates your love/sexual advances. If you make attempts to fuck her and she responds positively (she fucks you) then your feelings are being validated. If you try to pair bond with her and she responds positively (she becomes your GF) then your feelings are being validated. Attractive men get true validation from foids.
This is what I mean when I use these words. If you have different definitions in your mind then that's not what I'm talking about (don't argue semantics)
Now I'll explain why I believe we are naturally programmed to seek love, romance, affection, and validation.
Natural Selection.
I think it's pretty logical to come to the conclusion that love developed in human beings as an evolutionary tool that increases our chances of reproduction and the survival of our offspring (and even our own survival).
When men fall in love, they want to spend a lot of time with their partner, they do all they can to gain their partner's approval, they feel a strong desire to protect their partner (white knighting), they get jealous when their partner shows interest in other men, and so on and so forth. It's not hard to see that the purpose of all this is to reproduce and make sure your offspring has as many chances at surviving as possible. Men have always competed against each other for pussy and the ones who were able to experience all these feelings had a clear advantage and were more likely to reproduce. We inherited the desire for love because love was an effective way to breed. On top of that, you also can't deny the many health benefits of love which are scientifically proven:
So love not only gives us a strong desire to pass on our genes and take care of our offspring but it also gives us a strong motivation to survive ourselves. It is directly related to our one and only purpose in life.
Now I'll try to refute some of the counter arguments I've seen here:
"The concept of love did not exist until relatively recently. The sole purpose of relationships and marriage is paternity confidence."
Marriage as a contract was invented relatively recently, that's true. But relationships were always a thing. I'm not saying it was common for people in the stone age to have monogamous relationships for life, I'm saying that pair bonding was a thing and it would probably last for a short time (from the first stages of courtship until after the foid gave birth and probably even longer than that). The reason why I think this is that the desire to be in a relationship is present in people from all parts of the world nowadays and I assume we inherited that from our prehistoric ancestors.
"Men nowadays want love because they've been brainwashed by our feminist societies"
Feminist brainwashing is definitely a thing. Society wants you to worship foids and give them your balls on a silver plate. They've distorted the concept of love and adjusted it to their own antimale agenda. However, that doesn't mean that our desire for love is unnatural. You can see men across all the different societies around the world seeking relationships and desiring love. There's a reason all of us share more or less the same nature in that regard and it's not because of brainwashing.
"Men in ancient times didn't need relationships cuz they would just raid other tribes and rape their women"
The fact that men would rape women from other tribes in the stone age doesn't disprove the existence of relationships during that time just as the fact that the Vikings raided and stole from their neighbors doesn't disprove that they engaged in agriculture and produced their own shit. When prehistoric men weren't raiding other tribes they were busy surviving and trying to reproduce with their own women, and no matter how far back you go in time, intrasexual competition was always a thing, and I'm pretty sure that during 300.000 years of human prehistory love was important when it came to competing against other males (just like I explained above).
"All you need from foids you can get it from hookers"
You can't get affectionate with a hooker. You pay a prostitute to bust a nut and that's it. There are some special prostitutes that will be affectionate with you and pretend to be your partner but unless you're rich you can forget about that shit.
"Nobody cared about foids opinions back in the day"
True, but that doesn't mean men saw their women as breeding machines and nothing more than that. If you think the average joe back in the day didn't give a single fuck about his woman and had no feelings for her whatsoever then you're clearly coping hard.
"You care about foids validation therefore you're a cuck"
Trust me, I don't value women's opinions at all. I couldn't care less what they think of me if they're not fucking me. But that's how I am now because of years of inceldom, my views, and my hatred. But I can tell you this, when I was in my redpilled phase and I used to approach foids I never enjoyed the feeling of getting rejected by them. Anyone here who has experienced rejection can tell you it fucking sucks. And anyone who has been led on by a foid can also tell you that it feels amazing when you think you have a chance with her. We are naturally wired to care about foids validation and you can't deny that.
"If love evolved just as a means to an end then what's important is the end. Just fuck a hooker theory"
Friendship and camaraderie also evolved as a means to an end (the end being survival). We want to be friends with people because back in the day, our ancestors' survival depended on those types of relationships. Nowadays, you don't necessarily need to have a social life to survive. A lot of us are able to survive without having friends yet we still want friendship, we feel loneliness, we want to have a sense of belonging, and we want to socialize (even tho we don't need it to survive). All those things are necessary to be happy just as experiencing love is also a fundamental need for a healthy mind. Those of us who don't experience all that shit like we're supposed to end up fucked up in the head. You can't compare fucking a used up junkie hooker to pair bonding with the mother of your child. Achieving reproduction by "other means" does not eliminate our desire for love cuz that shit is in our DNA.
Anyway, I just made this post in response to a particular user who thinks I'm trolling him. I'm not interested in arguing half the forum so don't give me shit if I don't reply to your counterarguments. And btw, I fucking hate women and I will never fall in love ever again.
Love (sexual): A strong feeling of sexual attraction towards a particular female that makes us want to court her, fuck her, make sure other males don't fuck her, protect her, care for her, etc (pair bond). The feeling of love for a female can be reciprocated genuinely if you're attractive. If you're ugly then you can only hope for fake love at best (betabuxx).
Romance: The process of courtship and pair-bonding that occurs when a male is trying to reproduce with a female and guarantee the future of his offspring. It doesn't last long, and the way it is carried out differs from culture to culture.
Affection (with your sexual partner): Basically the same thing as love. It is expressed physically, verbally, and with actions. Kissing, caressing, cuddling, spooning, hugging, sweet taking (simping nowadays) are some examples of affection.
Validation (from a sexual partner): The feeling of reward you get when she reciprocates your love/sexual advances. If you make attempts to fuck her and she responds positively (she fucks you) then your feelings are being validated. If you try to pair bond with her and she responds positively (she becomes your GF) then your feelings are being validated. Attractive men get true validation from foids.
This is what I mean when I use these words. If you have different definitions in your mind then that's not what I'm talking about (don't argue semantics)
Now I'll explain why I believe we are naturally programmed to seek love, romance, affection, and validation.
Natural Selection.
I think it's pretty logical to come to the conclusion that love developed in human beings as an evolutionary tool that increases our chances of reproduction and the survival of our offspring (and even our own survival).
When men fall in love, they want to spend a lot of time with their partner, they do all they can to gain their partner's approval, they feel a strong desire to protect their partner (white knighting), they get jealous when their partner shows interest in other men, and so on and so forth. It's not hard to see that the purpose of all this is to reproduce and make sure your offspring has as many chances at surviving as possible. Men have always competed against each other for pussy and the ones who were able to experience all these feelings had a clear advantage and were more likely to reproduce. We inherited the desire for love because love was an effective way to breed. On top of that, you also can't deny the many health benefits of love which are scientifically proven:
Love has consequences for health and well-being. Engaging in joyful activities such as love may activate areas in the brain responsible for emotion, attention, motivation and memory (i.e., limbic structures), and it may further serve to control the autonomic nervous system, i.e., stress reduction. Th is specifi c CNS activity pattern appears to exert protective eff ects, even on the brain itself. Moreover, anxiolytic eff ects of pleasurable experiences may occur by promotion of an inhibitory tone in specifi c areas of the brain. Th us, love and pleasure clearly are capable of stimulating health, well-being and (re)productivity: Th is wonderful biological instrument makes procreation and maintenance of organisms and their species a deeply rewarding and pleasurable experience, thus ensuring survival, health, and perpetuation.
So love not only gives us a strong desire to pass on our genes and take care of our offspring but it also gives us a strong motivation to survive ourselves. It is directly related to our one and only purpose in life.
Now I'll try to refute some of the counter arguments I've seen here:
"The concept of love did not exist until relatively recently. The sole purpose of relationships and marriage is paternity confidence."
Marriage as a contract was invented relatively recently, that's true. But relationships were always a thing. I'm not saying it was common for people in the stone age to have monogamous relationships for life, I'm saying that pair bonding was a thing and it would probably last for a short time (from the first stages of courtship until after the foid gave birth and probably even longer than that). The reason why I think this is that the desire to be in a relationship is present in people from all parts of the world nowadays and I assume we inherited that from our prehistoric ancestors.
"Men nowadays want love because they've been brainwashed by our feminist societies"
Feminist brainwashing is definitely a thing. Society wants you to worship foids and give them your balls on a silver plate. They've distorted the concept of love and adjusted it to their own antimale agenda. However, that doesn't mean that our desire for love is unnatural. You can see men across all the different societies around the world seeking relationships and desiring love. There's a reason all of us share more or less the same nature in that regard and it's not because of brainwashing.
"Men in ancient times didn't need relationships cuz they would just raid other tribes and rape their women"
The fact that men would rape women from other tribes in the stone age doesn't disprove the existence of relationships during that time just as the fact that the Vikings raided and stole from their neighbors doesn't disprove that they engaged in agriculture and produced their own shit. When prehistoric men weren't raiding other tribes they were busy surviving and trying to reproduce with their own women, and no matter how far back you go in time, intrasexual competition was always a thing, and I'm pretty sure that during 300.000 years of human prehistory love was important when it came to competing against other males (just like I explained above).
"All you need from foids you can get it from hookers"
You can't get affectionate with a hooker. You pay a prostitute to bust a nut and that's it. There are some special prostitutes that will be affectionate with you and pretend to be your partner but unless you're rich you can forget about that shit.
"Nobody cared about foids opinions back in the day"
True, but that doesn't mean men saw their women as breeding machines and nothing more than that. If you think the average joe back in the day didn't give a single fuck about his woman and had no feelings for her whatsoever then you're clearly coping hard.
"You care about foids validation therefore you're a cuck"
Trust me, I don't value women's opinions at all. I couldn't care less what they think of me if they're not fucking me. But that's how I am now because of years of inceldom, my views, and my hatred. But I can tell you this, when I was in my redpilled phase and I used to approach foids I never enjoyed the feeling of getting rejected by them. Anyone here who has experienced rejection can tell you it fucking sucks. And anyone who has been led on by a foid can also tell you that it feels amazing when you think you have a chance with her. We are naturally wired to care about foids validation and you can't deny that.
"If love evolved just as a means to an end then what's important is the end. Just fuck a hooker theory"
Friendship and camaraderie also evolved as a means to an end (the end being survival). We want to be friends with people because back in the day, our ancestors' survival depended on those types of relationships. Nowadays, you don't necessarily need to have a social life to survive. A lot of us are able to survive without having friends yet we still want friendship, we feel loneliness, we want to have a sense of belonging, and we want to socialize (even tho we don't need it to survive). All those things are necessary to be happy just as experiencing love is also a fundamental need for a healthy mind. Those of us who don't experience all that shit like we're supposed to end up fucked up in the head. You can't compare fucking a used up junkie hooker to pair bonding with the mother of your child. Achieving reproduction by "other means" does not eliminate our desire for love cuz that shit is in our DNA.
Anyway, I just made this post in response to a particular user who thinks I'm trolling him. I'm not interested in arguing half the forum so don't give me shit if I don't reply to your counterarguments. And btw, I fucking hate women and I will never fall in love ever again.