Blackpill There was a worldwide incel revolution and we won

[Flagellum_Dei]

Many people here assume that current state of the world and proportions of assignment of the foid resource, so the 95/5 rule is a natural state of humanity. This believe is wrong. Even though foids are indeed hypergamous by nature, they weren't allowed to enforce their will for the most of the humanity history.

assets.cambridge.org/97805216/51059/sample/9780521651059wsc00.pdf

Societies until late paleolithic/learly neolithic have lived in small groups made of relatives. However, with the rise of human advancement, the groups started to grow and obtain more resources along with area they've occupied, that mostly happened in resource rich areas:

Ethnographic examples can be found to support both poles of the argument. The reality, as Stanner (Peterson 1986, Stanner 1965) pointed out, is a continuum of differential social access to local groups and the resources they control. This variable association was enshrined in what he termed estate (religious
core) and range (foraging area) relations (Gamble 1986a:33–4). The position of any group on the continuum was strongly influenced by variation in ecological
conditions. The closer in size that a group’s estate and range become, the more likely it is to find a patrilocal, restricted access system. On the contrary, when resources are poorer, range size will far exceed the area covered by a group’s estate. This generally results in unrestricted access, sharing and an open rather than closed system (Figure 1.1). Peterson (1986) has shown how this social continuum works for several Australian foraging societies (Table 1.2). Ranged along an ecological gradient3 of good to poor resources it is possible to see systematic changes in the principles of social integration, association to land and marriage rules. The social principles of inclusion and exclusion which change along this gradient are examined in Chapter 3.

Mind that in centralized area the ruler have more power over its subjects. The family unit that provided the foid resource for all of its male members no longer have power in such autocratic system. The ruling class got all the power and resources.

That led to the situation wherein there was dozens foids granted for a chieftain. Sound familiar?

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success/

Once upon a time, 4,000 to 8,000 years after humanity invented agriculture, something very strange happened to human reproduction. Across the globe, for every 17 women who were reproducing, passing on genes that are still around today—only one man did the same.

Notice how it first affected Middle East, where neolithic and agriculture arrived first. It also ended there. The faster it started the faster it ended. Just like it couldn't last more than particular period of time for some reason.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-43026-9

The Late Neolithic funerary rockshelter of San Juan ante Portam Latinam (henceforth SJAPL) in north-central Iberia is one of the most promising sites to represent the largest violence-related burial event known for the European Neolithic. Nevertheless, the scale and nature of violence at the site remains disputed. The site was originally interpreted as a massacre (i.e., the indiscriminate killing of helpless or unresisting people)18 based on the haphazard and interwoven deposition of many bodies in a single mass with minimal soil separating them, combined with the original identification of five unhealed arrowhead injuries, at least 41 potential cases of arrowheads having impacted bodies and a single case of unhealed cranial trauma [i.e.,19,20,21,22]. However, such evidence appeared to be too limited to support a common cause of death for the estimated minimum number of 338 individuals present23.

A minimum of 338 individuals (201 nonadults and 137 adults, based on crania), with a clear predominance of males (107 out of the 153 adolescents and adults whose sex could be estimated, i.e., 70%)19 were buried randomly interwoven and occasionally in atypical positions (including prone and unnaturally flexed positions) (cf. Fig. 1). They were found together with 52 flint arrowheads, 64 blades, two polished stone axes, three pebbles, five bone awls and some personal ornaments23. These materials attribute the deposit to the Late Neolithic, confirmed by 16 radiocarbon dates on human bone, which a Bayesian model places as lying between 3380 and 3000 cal. BC22.

However, available skeletal evidence for unhealed trauma seems to be low and the demographic profile of the site does not fit well with that expected for a massacre, which tends to replicate a natural population profile (as seen in other Neolithic violence-related mass graves [e.g.,10]).

So these weren't experienced warriors, if the unhealed trauma is insignificant. They were rather common folk that got slaughtered.

The temptation is to assume that those adolescent and adult females, children and infants were killed similarly to males or, alternatively, abducted. While it is not impossible that some women and older children participated in violent confrontations, in SJAPL much lower frequencies than males have been identified for these population segments, particularly regarding unhealed trauma (2.2% in females and 5.3% in children and infants), than in Neolithic massacres (Table 3). Moreover, available skeletal evidence for violence in these groups mostly focuses on healed trauma, which may relate to both intra- and inter-group violence36, 49.

Inter-group violence that occured in Late Neolithic, you say?
Foids weren't killed in those events, you say?

In Europe and on Middle East the process of proletariat revolution was finally ended with the Aryan (Yamnaya) arrival and begun of the bronze Age.

Aryans populated northern and eastern Europe, but southern lands were more populated. Although it didn't changed anything, as even small group of Aryans most often became elites of the local population and enforced their culture.

We came from this filth of neolithic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_religion#Middle_Paleolithic

Another art form of probable religious significance are the Venus figurines. These are hand-held statuettes of nude women found in Upper Paleolithic sites across Eurasia, speculated to hold significance to fertility rites.[74] Though separated by thousands of years and kilometres, Venus figurines across the Upper Paleolithic share consistent features. They focus on the midsections of their subjects; the faces are blank or abstract, and the hands and feet small. Despite the near-nonexistence of obesity amongst hunter-gatherers, many depict realistically rendered obese subjects. The figures are universally women, often nude, and frequently pregnant.[75][note 7]

Interpretations of Venus figurines range from self-portraits[77] to matriarchal representations of a mother goddess.[78]

To this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Dyēus

*Dyḗus (lit. "daylight-sky-god"), also *Dyḗus ph₂tḗr (lit. "father daylight-sky-god"),[1][2] is the reconstructed name of the daylight-sky god in Proto-Indo-European mythology.

While its existence is not directly attested by archaeological or written materials, *Dyēus is considered by scholars the most securely reconstructed deity of the Indo-European pantheon, as identical formulas referring to him can be found among the subsequent Indo-European languages and myths of the Vedic Indo-Aryans, Latins, Greeks, Phrygians, Messapians, Thracians, Illyrians, Albanians and Hittites.[3][2]

The hypothesis suggests that the Indo-Europeans, a patriarchal, patrilinear, and nomadic culture of the Pontic–Caspian steppe (which is now part northeastern Bulgaria and southeastern Romania, through Moldova, and southern and eastern Ukraine, through the northern Caucasus of southern Russia, and into the lower Volga region of western Kazakhstan), expanded into the area through several waves of migration during the 3rd millennium BCE, coinciding with the taming of the horse. Leaving archaeological signs of their presence (see Corded Ware culture), they subjugated the supposedly peaceful, egalitarian, and matrilinear European neolithic farmers of Gimbutas' Old Europe.

This could look similiar to the Islamic Caliphate conquest of middle East, when various Arab tribes got their previous culture and religion eradicated and replace with an universal one.

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[Jud Pottah]

even during the Egyptian Dinasties, all slaves to men, and Obedient to men.

The Greeks wouldn't allow the women to frequent cafés, pubs, or the local theathre. theyd be too busy doing the laundry and you guessed it... KIDS

 

[DarkStar]

Good thread, except EEF is found in all Europeans & Yamnaya/Steppe is still fairly common in the South

Most of the Elites of Rome & Greece have been found to be similar to the modern populations of the regions nowadays

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

even during the Egyptian Dinasties, all slaves to men, and Obedient to men.

The Greeks wouldn't allow the women to frequent cafés, pubs, or the local theathre. theyd be too busy doing the laundry and you guessed it... KIDS

In Rome foids weren't even allowed to drink

 

[decafincel]

I should probably read this but I'm lazy

 

[El Movimiento]

Even though foids are indeed hypergamous by nature, they weren't allowed to enforce their will for the most of the humanity history.

Holy shit this thread is starting good, i will read it later for sure brother, good work

 

[DarkStar]

In Rome foids weren't even allowed to drink

Based

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

Holy shit this thread is starting good, i will read it later for sure brother, good work

 

[CEO of Simps]

I read every single letter

 

[Jud Pottah]

In Rome foids weren't even allowed to drink

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Very good thread. I had a chuckle at how the researchers behind the study tried to not openly say what quite clearly happened. Old ways collapsed and after a new system was established which theoretically allowed a single man to have dozens of wives, well, said men did so everywhere they could.

even during the Egyptian Dinasties, all slaves to men, and Obedient to men.

The Greeks wouldn't allow the women to frequent cafés, pubs, or the local theathre. theyd be too busy doing the laundry and you guessed it... KIDS

In Rome foids weren't even allowed to drink

Eh, of those three I'd say the Greeks are the only actual example of a society where women were significantly below men, and even then they were above the males who were lower in socioeconomic rank, especially the slaves. In both Egypt and Rome, women could inherit and trade property, including land and slaves, represent themselves in courts, and own businesses. I'm very sceptical of calling any society where those things were true to be in any real way a gender-unequal one, and it's funny just how much of the supposed "oppression" of women in the past disappears once you filter out all the attempts to make mountains out of molehills by focusing on meaningless differences and customs and just focus on the fundamentals (inheritance rights, economic/employment freedom and so on.)

If women were so oppressed and restricted in the past, how come there was never a slave-owning society where only men could own slaves?

Just something I've noticed reading about various ancient/medieval societies:feelsjuice:. Really makes you think:feelsthink:. According to feminists, women, during just about the entire history of the world before the first wave of feminism, were "oppressed." Uniformly, they were supposedly...

incels.is

I read every single letter

 

[Babylon Oh Babalyon]

Misogyny is just a good idea.

 

[PolskiKartofel]

Read every single word, but I need some time for larger reflections.

High IQ thread ngl and should be pinned (if mods approve)

 

[highschoolcel]

Many people here assume that current state of the world and proportions of assignment of the foid resource, so the 95/5 rule is a natural state of humanity. This believe is wrong. Even though foids are indeed hypergamous by nature, they weren't allowed to enforce their will for the most of the humanity history.

assets.cambridge.org/97805216/51059/sample/9780521651059wsc00.pdf

Societies until late paleolithic/learly neolithic have lived in small groups made of relatives. However, with the rise of human advancement, the groups started to grow and obtain more resources along with area they've occupied, that mostly happened in resource rich areas:



View attachment 1324713

Mind that in centralized area the ruler have more power over its subjects. The family unit that provided the foid resource for all of its male members no longer have power in such autocratic system. The ruling class got all the power and resources.

View attachment 1324715

That led to the situation wherein there was dozens foids granted for a chieftain. Sound familiar?

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success/



View attachment 1324722

Notice how it first affected Middle East, where neolithic and agriculture arrived first. It also ended there. The faster it started the faster it ended. Just like it couldn't last more than particular period of time for some reason.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-43026-9





So these weren't experienced warriors, if the unhealed trauma is insignificant. They were rather common folk that got slaughtered.



Inter-group violence that occured in Late Neolithic, you say?
Foids weren't killed in those events, you say?

In Europe and on Middle East the process of proletariat revolution was finally ended with the Aryan (Yamnaya) arrival and begun of the bronze Age.

View attachment 1324790

Aryans populated northern and eastern Europe, but southern lands were more populated. Although it didn't changed anything, as even small group of Aryans most often became elites of the local population and enforced their culture.
View attachment 1324809

We came from this filth of neolithic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_religion#Middle_Paleolithic



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To this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Dyēus




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This could look similiar to the Islamic Caliphate conquest of middle East, when various Arab tribes got their previous culture and religion eradicated and replace with an universal one.

Spoiler: Tags

@DarkStar @WorthlessSlavicShit @pedrolopezwasright @PolskiKartofel @SupremeSaint @AsiaCel @VideoGameCoper @GeckoBus @Lv99_BixNood @Jud Pottah @To koniec @highschoolcel @Regenerator

I feel honored to be tagged in a thread like that

Let me read that when I have some time

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

Misogyny is just a good idea.

 

[pedrolopezwasright]

Misogyny is just a good idea.

Everyone knew that in the past

 

[pedrolopezwasright]

Nice thread. Misogyny not only benefits us, but a society as a whole.

 

[joocel52]

in ancient near east, mesoamerica, east asia, andean civilizations etc foids had basically no rights either - it seems to be a universal thing as society transitions to somewhat large scale agriculture.

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

in ancient near east, mesoamerica, east asia, andean civilizations etc foids had basically no rights either - it seems to be a universal thing as society transitions to somewhat large scale agriculture.

there's a long tradition for this

 

[joocel52]

there's a long tradition for this

A. Based neolithic europe kek
B. Ofc, im just saying that women in the aztec empire, china or assyria were also treated in a similar way, and these societies had nothing to do with indo europeans - men everywhere, once they had the resourrces, did this incel revolution

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

A. Based neolithic europe kek
B. Ofc, im just saying that women in the aztec empire, china or assyria were also treated in a similar way, and these societies had nothing to do with indo europeans - men everywhere, once they had the resourrces, did this incel revolution

Yeah its seem like it's universal rule that a revolution will happen when the foid resource get monopolized by a narrow group, whatever it's neolithic chieftains or modern day chad-bourgeoisie.

 

[joocel52]

Yeah its seem like it's universal rule that a revolution will happen when the foid resource get monopolized by a narrow group, whatever it's neolithic chieftains or modern day chad-bourgeoisie.

indeed. this is especielly clear in the americas - among the primitive tribes in places like amazon rainforest or american deserts, women are given privelages and treated in what redditors call a progressive way. in the far more advanced societies of mexico and peru, women were treated like objects just like in europe for example. so i agree - the moment sufficient resources (due to agriculture) develop, the low tier men re-organize society so that it becomes egaliterian in regards to access to pussy. funny how well marxist logic applies to the sex market, except the commies dont like to admit that

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

funny how well marxist logic applies to the sex market, except the commies dont like to admit that

The problem is Marx was a hegelian faggot and there're currently no alternatives for marx's socialism, which goal was moralist nonsense that was heritage of French "enlightenment". I'm writing some blackpillist political theory, so it can change in near future

 

[joocel52]

The problem is Marx was a hegelian faggot and there're currently no alternatives for marx's socialism, which goal was moralist nonsense from heritage in French "enlightenment". I'm writing some blackpillist political theory, so it can change in near future

Friend, itd be really intersting to hear your political theories! but yes, his analysis fails due to the moralist and metaphysical beggage carried from hegel

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

Friend, itd be really intersting to hear your political theories! but yes, his analysis fails due to the moralist and metaphysical beggage carried from hegel

I posted here just one short writing https://incels.is/threads/the-blackpillist-manifesto.618707/, but as i said i'm writing much bigger and broader treatise.

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

High IQ thread ngl and should be pinned

@Fat Link pin?

 

[lifesucksandyoudie]

The difference is that previous instances of hypergamy were enabled under a 'patriarchy' where as we now live in a matriarchy.

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

The difference is that previous instances of hypergamy were enabled

Hypergamy wasn't enabled until french 'enlightenment'

 

[edgelordcel]

Im aryan from punjabi brahmin
Dont fuck with me

 

[edgelordcel]

Misogyny is just a good idea.

Natural*

 

[BricABrac]

It's funny to see shit like the Natalism sub and watch how every once in awhile someone connects the dots with foids natural hysterics and insanity and the population collapse.

 

[light]

Im aryan from punjabi brahmin
Dont fuck with me

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

In both Egypt and Rome, women could inherit and trade property, including land and slaves, represent themselves in courts, and own businesses

wow that's extremely cucked

 

[Friezacel]

I should probably read this but I'm lazy

 

[Limitcel]

The day is coming again

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

Good post

 

[eliya]

Many people here assume that current state of the world and proportions of assignment of the foid resource, so the 95/5 rule is a natural state of humanity. This believe is wrong. Even though foids are indeed hypergamous by nature, they weren't allowed to enforce their will for the most of the humanity history.

assets.cambridge.org/97805216/51059/sample/9780521651059wsc00.pdf

Societies until late paleolithic/learly neolithic have lived in small groups made of relatives. However, with the rise of human advancement, the groups started to grow and obtain more resources along with area they've occupied, that mostly happened in resource rich areas:



View attachment 1324713

Mind that in centralized area the ruler have more power over its subjects. The family unit that provided the foid resource for all of its male members no longer have power in such autocratic system. The ruling class got all the power and resources.

View attachment 1324715

That led to the situation wherein there was dozens foids granted for a chieftain. Sound familiar?

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success/



View attachment 1324722

Notice how it first affected Middle East, where neolithic and agriculture arrived first. It also ended there. The faster it started the faster it ended. Just like it couldn't last more than particular period of time for some reason.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-43026-9





So these weren't experienced warriors, if the unhealed trauma is insignificant. They were rather common folk that got slaughtered.



Inter-group violence that occured in Late Neolithic, you say?
Foids weren't killed in those events, you say?

In Europe and on Middle East the process of proletariat revolution was finally ended with the Aryan (Yamnaya) arrival and begun of the bronze Age.

View attachment 1324790

Aryans populated northern and eastern Europe, but southern lands were more populated. Although it didn't changed anything, as even small group of Aryans most often became elites of the local population and enforced their culture.
View attachment 1324809

We came from this filth of neolithic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_religion#Middle_Paleolithic



View attachment 1324803

To this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Dyēus




View attachment 1324824




This could look similiar to the Islamic Caliphate conquest of middle East, when various Arab tribes got their previous culture and religion eradicated and replace with an universal one.

Spoiler: Tags

@DarkStar @WorthlessSlavicShit @pedrolopezwasright @PolskiKartofel @SupremeSaint @AsiaCel @VideoGameCoper @GeckoBus @Lv99_BixNood @Jud Pottah @To koniec @highschoolcel @Regenerator

Bookmark high iq

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

The day is coming again

but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.

 

[failmaxxed]

Why does it matter?
Incels in the past had their beta revolution, but you and i wont. Them succeeding does not make our current situation any better.

 

[starystulejarz]

We need to go back to the good ol times where foids wouldn't could do anything without male permission or get punished by beating or death.

 

[based_meme]

Read the whole thing, but where's the revolution and how did we win?

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

Read the whole thing, but where's the revolution and how did we win?

View attachment 1324722

Notice how it first affected Middle East, where neolithic and agriculture arrived first. It also ended there. The faster it started the faster it ended. Just like it couldn't last more than particular period of time for some reason.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-43026-9





So these weren't experienced warriors, if the unhealed trauma is insignificant. They were rather common folk that got slaughtered.



Inter-group violence that occured in Late Neolithic, you say?
Foids weren't killed in those events, you say?

 

[based_meme]

Interesting theory, but it doesn't feel like I'm winning.

 

[KrazedKanga]

I firmly believe we are a cruel, sick, vicious, insane, sociopathic species that is beyond redemption. To pat ourselves on the back when wars, famine, genocide, racism, misogyny, and the horrific barbaric cruelties we perpetrate on each other and other species is based . BUT the evil monstrosities so outweigh the bits of good I believe mentioning the good is irrelevant. In a nutshell I think to imagine the world renouncing violence in all its variants, racism, misogyny, etc. should not be viewed as idealistic and Utopian but as basic.

 

[faded]

Holy shit this thread is starting good, i will read it later for sure brother, good work