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There is a limit to your skill

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I used to think that as long as I invested time and effort into a skill, I would evolve, no matter what. Even though it followed the diminishing returns, you could still get a little bit better.

However, even though I have been honing my skills for a decade now, I am not at a professional level. I did everything that you would expect, I practiced a lot, I learned from masters, even bought lessons from some of my favorite artists.

But as I draw something now, my level is basically the same as many years ago. I simply stopped getting better quickly. The truth is that we all have limitations about our skills in anything, and even though I was a "prodigy" in art as a child, admired by friends and family members, my drawings became less impressive as I grew up, and once I started to take it seriously and learn it in a more consistent way, I became like 50% better and never managed to get better than that ever since.

When I look at the work from the masters that I admire, I realize that no matter how much work I put into it, I will never reach their level. And this is the art black pill. :blackpill: Anyone who you ask will tell you that art is about effort and that professionals simply spent more time into it, that is a total lie. I did everything I could. The most brutal part is after finishing a piece only to notice it looks like total shit, but you have no idea why. Then you post it online looking for feedback, and you get suggestions from other artists that either make no change whatsoever or sometimes it even makes it worse (because they are either at your level or below it) Not knowing what is wrong with your art and being able to tell its garbage is something that is annoying in the beginning, but its soul-crushing in the 35000th time.

Once again, I have to face the fact that life is not about effort but about what you are born with.
 
This isn't your blog faggot

Stop humble bragging about your fucking skills
 
This isn't your blog faggot

Stop humble bragging about your fucking skills
"humble bragging" :feelshaha:

Damn I would mock you but doing that to low IQ people is like beating up a handicap.
 
Hard work will bring you to mediocre level, the rest is talent or predisposition.
 
mogs me at doing something and not just rotting in bed
 
"humble bragging" :feelshaha:

Damn I would mock you but doing that to low IQ people is like beating up a handicap.
You said it yourself that you are mediocre but you still keep doing it :feelshaha:

Also drawing is gay as fuck and attracts the worst autists and most "art" of drawfags is vomit inducing
 
I used to think that as long as I invested time and effort into a skill, I would evolve, no matter what. Even though it followed the diminishing returns, you could still get a little bit better.

However, even though I have been honing my skills for a decade now, I am not at a professional level. I did everything that you would expect, I practiced a lot, I learned from masters, even bought lessons from some of my favorite artists.

But as I draw something now, my level is basically the same as many years ago. I simply stopped getting better quickly. The truth is that we all have limitations about our skills in anything, and even though I was a "prodigy" in art as a child, admired by friends and family members, my drawings became less impressive as I grew up, and once I started to take it seriously and learn it in a more consistent way, I became like 50% better and never managed to get better than that ever since.

When I look at the work from the masters that I admire, I realize that no matter how much work I put into it, I will never reach their level. And this is the art black pill. :blackpill: Anyone who you ask will tell you that art is about effort and that professionals simply spent more time into it, that is a total lie. I did everything I could. The most brutal part is after finishing a piece only to notice it looks like total shit, but you have no idea why. Then you post it online looking for feedback, and you get suggestions from other artists that either make no change whatsoever or sometimes it even makes it worse (because they are either at your level or below it) Not knowing what is wrong with your art and being able to tell its garbage is something that is annoying in the beginning, but its soul-crushing in the 35000th time.

Once again, I have to face the fact that life is not about effort but about what you are born with.
THERE IS A LIMIT TO YOUR SKULL
 
You said it yourself that you are mediocre but you still keep doing it :feelshaha:

Also drawing is gay as fuck and attracts the worst autists and most "art" of drawfags is vomit inducing
Do you even know what "humble bragging" means? Or is it just a therm you read somewhere, made some dumb conclusion in your inbred chimp brain and started using it?

You don't have to answer if it takes too much effort.
 
Do you even know what "humble bragging" means? Or is it just a therm you read somewhere, made some dumb conclusion in your inbred chimp brain and started using it?

You don't have to answer if it takes too much effort.
Simple. Humble bragging is pointing out something about you that you are actually proud of, but larp that you hate it.

For example when tallfags say: "Damn it sucks to be so tall, can't find fitting clothes." or when foids say: "My tits are too big omg life is so unfair!"

It is something that foids and soys do.
 
Do you even know what "humble bragging" means? Or is it just a therm you read somewhere, made some dumb conclusion in your inbred chimp brain and started using it?

You don't have to answer if it takes too much effort.
hey boyo you don't have to be the best artist lul can you make money with it somehow? if yes it's whatever
 
True talent is determined by genetics
 
Simple. Humble bragging is pointing out something about you that you are actually proud of, but larp that you hate it.

For example when tallfags say: "Damn it sucks to be so tall, can't find fitting clothes." or when foids say: "My tits are too big omg life is so unfair!"

It is something that foids and soys do.
lol how can I be proud of it if I said it its garbage and I will never make it as an artist? I even called it garbage in the original post.

And saying I was praised for it as a child doesn't mean shit, because I was good... for a child, which is like being strong... for a woman, it doesn't mean shit.
hey boyo you don't have to be the best artist lul can you make money with it somehow? if yes it's whatever
I can't be a professional artist. No company would hire me, maybe I can make money with it doing something else but I am not optimistic about it.
 
lol how can I be proud of it if I said it its garbage and I will never make it as an artist? I even called it garbage in the original post.

And saying I was praised for it as a child doesn't mean shit, because I was good... for a child, which is like being strong... for a woman, it doesn't mean shit.

I can't be a professional artist. No company would hire me, maybe I can make money with it doing something else but I am not optimistic about it.
Relax. I'm just messing with you. :feelskek:
 
Indeed there that's why I don't bother all out your control.

That's what these deluded normies refuse to acknowledge whilst shoving generic cliche advice.
 
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It all depends on how important art is to you. Is it worth risking the time, energy and your livelihood for the small chance you will stumble on a couple "eureka'" moments and finally progress again as an artist? Also it isn't all about effort and time. Learning anything on a professional level is built on a learning process that requires planning and fine tuning.

Very few people can just take a sledgehammer to everything and succeed, and even if they do they often end up mediocre or average.
 
It all depends on how important art is to you. Is it worth risking the time, energy and your livelihood for the small chance you will stumble on a couple "eureka'" moments and finally progress again as an artist? Also it isn't all about effort and time. Learning anything on a professional level is built on a learning process that requires planning and fine tuning.

Very few people can just take a sledgehammer to everything and succeed, and even if they do they often end up mediocre or average.
That's the thing about "eureka" moments, they only happen in the beginning, with the basics and fundamentals, but then you become limited by your own ability to notice flaws in your art.

And that cannot be learned, because its perception. You can tell its bad, but the ability to tell exactly what the issue is cannot be learned and its what separates pros from amateurs.
 
its over for talentlesscels
 
That's the thing about "eureka" moments, they only happen in the beginning, with the basics and fundamentals, but then you become limited by your own ability to notice flaws in your art.

And that cannot be learned, because its perception. You can tell its bad, but the ability to tell exactly what the issue is cannot be learned and its what separates pros from amateurs.
I think there is four core elements to becoming professional grade: 1) learning most, if not all, the fundamentals related to a topic (knowing the jargon and technical aspects of it in and out) 2) constant exposure to relevant content by people in the position you want to be, followed by thoughtful analysis (notes breaking down concepts and aspects of the pieces you like) along with imitation and modification 3) Creative application, having as many people as possible critiquing you and offering suggestions who are where you want to be 4) Removing all distractions and sticking to an extremely tight schedule optimized for learning to your absolute limit with periodic breaks as necessary.

By following this system, you drastically increase the chances of breaking through and increasing your ability.
 
I think there is four core elements to becoming professional grade: 1) learning most, if not all, the fundamentals related to a topic (knowing the jargon and technical aspects of it in and out) 2) constant exposure to relevant content by people in the position you want to be, followed by thoughtful analysis (notes breaking down concepts and aspects of the pieces you like) along with imitation and modification 3) Creative application, having as many people as possible critiquing you and offering suggestions who are where you want to be 4) Removing all distractions and sticking to an extremely tight schedule optimized for learning to your absolute limit with periodic breaks as necessary.

By following this system, you drastically increase the chances of breaking through and increasing your ability.
That is exactly what I did. All of it.
 
I used to think that as long as I invested time and effort into a skill, I would evolve, no matter what. Even though it followed the diminishing returns, you could still get a little bit better.

However, even though I have been honing my skills for a decade now, I am not at a professional level. I did everything that you would expect, I practiced a lot, I learned from masters, even bought lessons from some of my favorite artists.

But as I draw something now, my level is basically the same as many years ago. I simply stopped getting better quickly. The truth is that we all have limitations about our skills in anything, and even though I was a "prodigy" in art as a child, admired by friends and family members, my drawings became less impressive as I grew up, and once I started to take it seriously and learn it in a more consistent way, I became like 50% better and never managed to get better than that ever since.

When I look at the work from the masters that I admire, I realize that no matter how much work I put into it, I will never reach their level. And this is the art black pill. :blackpill: Anyone who you ask will tell you that art is about effort and that professionals simply spent more time into it, that is a total lie. I did everything I could. The most brutal part is after finishing a piece only to notice it looks like total shit, but you have no idea why. Then you post it online looking for feedback, and you get suggestions from other artists that either make no change whatsoever or sometimes it even makes it worse (because they are either at your level or below it) Not knowing what is wrong with your art and being able to tell its garbage is something that is annoying in the beginning, but its soul-crushing in the 35000th time.

Once again, I have to face the fact that life is not about effort but about what you are born with.
yo we signed up on the same day :feelsaww:
 
Brutal truth pill. This applies to other domains of life as well tbh. There is a genetic talent cap which is impossible to overcome for many folk.
 
This isn't your blog faggot

Stop humble bragging about your fucking skills
Lol :lul:,meanwhile my iq probably got lowered half by bullying from everyone and having a shit life ,I could’ve done so much better
 
I can't be a professional artist. No company would hire me, maybe I can make money with it doing something else but I am not optimistic about it.
I mean how about making youtube thumbnails or whatever. or making character/concept art for video games. or logos tbh you can try a bunch of stuff ngl if you feel
 
Then decide now whether you'll risk continuing, or do something else and make art a hobby.
Art has always been a hobby, it was never my profession even though I planned on being a professional for a few years. I already accepted I was never going to be a professional but I wanted to at least keep evolving my skills.
I mean how about making youtube thumbnails or whatever. or making character/concept art for video games. or logos tbh you can try a bunch of stuff ngl if you feel
I would gladly do any of those jobs. But I live in a socialist 3rd world shithole, there are no jobs here... and I don't have enough skill to be hired in other countries.
 
I used to think that as long as I invested time and effort into a skill, I would evolve, no matter what. Even though it followed the diminishing returns, you could still get a little bit better.

However, even though I have been honing my skills for a decade now, I am not at a professional level. I did everything that you would expect, I practiced a lot, I learned from masters, even bought lessons from some of my favorite artists.

But as I draw something now, my level is basically the same as many years ago. I simply stopped getting better quickly. The truth is that we all have limitations about our skills in anything, and even though I was a "prodigy" in art as a child, admired by friends and family members, my drawings became less impressive as I grew up, and once I started to take it seriously and learn it in a more consistent way, I became like 50% better and never managed to get better than that ever since.

When I look at the work from the masters that I admire, I realize that no matter how much work I put into it, I will never reach their level. And this is the art black pill. :blackpill: Anyone who you ask will tell you that art is about effort and that professionals simply spent more time into it, that is a total lie. I did everything I could. The most brutal part is after finishing a piece only to notice it looks like total shit, but you have no idea why. Then you post it online looking for feedback, and you get suggestions from other artists that either make no change whatsoever or sometimes it even makes it worse (because they are either at your level or below it) Not knowing what is wrong with your art and being able to tell its garbage is something that is annoying in the beginning, but its soul-crushing in the 35000th time.

Once again, I have to face the fact that life is not about effort but about what you are born with.
Can i see some of your art?
 
Can i see some of your art?
I tried sending it through PM but its not working

Capture
 
when did you start drawing and what your age is now (important point due to lowering neuroplasticity within age) is really the question to do here
many people who seems to be naturally better at effortlessly doing something had early/ier exposition to x,y,z and started practicing at a very young age, and that's why people who parrot ,,talent" or ,,gift" whenever someone demonstrate a proficient fully mastered skill are impressionable morons

so honestly I don't believe that there's a limit to your skill, the reality is that there's starting points where the younger will surpass whoever started later/afterwards such point, and that we don't retain neuroplasticity abilities to keep up at same exponential sharply increase pace of learning/improvement that we once had
 
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Simple. Humble bragging is pointing out something about you that you are actually proud of, but larp that you hate it.

For example when tallfags say: "Damn it sucks to be so tall, can't find fitting clothes." or when foids say: "My tits are too big omg life is so unfair!"

It is something that foids and soys do.
Tbh, if you're gonna brag about something you better do it like a man like me. I'm super proud of being the shit, I stick my chest out everytime I say it :cool:
I tried sending it through PM but its not working

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Send me your art on PMs too (as long as it's not doxfuel)< this is the reason why I don't show mine :feelsaww:
 
this is really depressing, despairing and disolating to me
I have many abandoned skills and interests that i simply never looked back due to hopelessness and decaying quality of life
I keep visualizing how enthusiastic and satisfied I was at mathematics, drawing, origami, anatomy, history, and other hobbies when younger, really regretful to reminder how great at something I was just to turn into an empty shell of a no longer existing cloistered monster who lost notion of linear line connection of time
 
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