There are people out there happy shoveling shit for a living, cause they belong to a community, they have a family, they feel as a part of society.

[Deleted member 7448]

Do you feel like a part of society? Do you go out into the world and have acquaintances (if not friends), can you hold your head high when going out and feel as a respectable member of society? Do you feel in touch with the people around you?

I guess I always felt as the odd man out. Not necessarily an outcast, though many times that too, but I actively didn't even want to participate, I avoided the so-called community. At school, uni etc... it's not cause I was ugly that I was the outcast, but I started it all through my own decisions and personality. Idk, there were times when people sort of invited me at first, when nobody knew each other on the first day of uni for example and I had the chance to tag along, but I always avoided people. I always felt like it was a huge drag, I always would rather rush home to lay in bed and stare at a screen, what the fuck is wrong with me?

Anyway, I think a part of our misery is this feeling of not being a proper member of society, with the proper links to society, with the proper respect etc... And yet I kind of chose to not be a part of society.

 

[Gymcelled]

I'd give up on STEMmaxxing on the spot and gladly shovel shit all day if it got me a loving and loyal non obese gf

 

[Genetic Dead End]

It’s not our fault. I would love to be a part of something, but I’m too deformed to form normal human relationships.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

I'd give up on STEMmaxxing on the spot and gladly shovel shit all day if it got me a loving and loyal non obese gf

I'm at a point where I don't mind obese. I don't mind hairy either (like unshaved legs lmao). I just need a somewhat non-repulsive face.

 

[Shin no Shi]

Do you feel like a part of society? Do you go out into the world and have acquaintances (if not friends), can you hold your head high when going out and feel as a respectable member of society? Do you feel in touch with the people around you?

I guess I always felt as the odd man out. Not necessarily an outcast, though many times that too, but I actively didn't even want to participate, I avoided the so-called community. At school, uni etc... it's not cause I was ugly that I was the outcast, but I started it all through my own decisions and personality. Idk, there were times when people sort of invited me at first, when nobody knew each other on the first day of uni for example and I had the chance to tag along, but I always avoided people. I always felt like it was a huge drag, I always would rather rush home to lay in bed and stare at a screen, what the fuck is wrong with me?

Anyway, I think a part of our misery is this feeling of not being a proper member of society, with the proper links to society, with the proper respect etc... And yet I kind of chose to not be a part of society.

Everything is a ego game in this world, people don't want to admit.

To further state why I say this is because, as a repulsed incel by soyciety, I've been thrown around like some money box for everyone to use, and yes I was essentially being virtuous from my own heart, but nope, the more I tangle myself with ohters who I shouldn't be interacting with as long, the higher the chances of me getting shit in return. That's why I proposed myself to never place anything on a pedestal or to falsely think that community is going to somehow be at your aid in the long run and isn't looking at you like another worthless loser for them to either leech off or throw in the gutters.

Thus why I'm a true outcast and never had true friends and never will. People to me are nothing but chess pieces for things I want.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Everything is a ego game in this world, people don't want to admit.

To further state why I say this is because, as a repulsed incel by soyciety, I've been thrown around like some money box for everyone to use, and yes I was essentially being virtuous from my own heart, but nope, the more I tangle myself with ohters who I shouldn't be interacting with as long, the higher the chances of me getting shit in return. That's why I proposed myself to never place anything on a pedestal or to falsely think that community is going to somehow be at your aid in the long run and isn't looking at you like another worthless loser for them to either leech off or throw in the gutters.

Thus why I'm a true outcast and never had true friends and never will. People to me are nothing but chess pieces for things I want.

That makes me wonder, are the people who are happy to be a part of society merely deluding themselves, and if they are, are those delusions something worth having if it makes you content?

 

[Emba]

I have literally shoveled shit as a job...

Contrary to popular belief it doesn't stink very much.

Usually, it's actually a fork. Not a shovel. It's a lot like cleaning a cat box except bigger and less stinky.

Cleaning horse stalls...

 

[Deleted member 7448]

I have literally shoveled shit as a job...

Contrary to popular belief it doesn't stink very much.

Usually, it's actually a fork. Not a shovel. It's a lot like cleaning a cat box except bigger and less stinky.

Cleaning horse stalls...

Haha, at least you must have some killer muscles from that. Guys who work on farms are always healthy and strong.

 

[Emba]

Haha, at least you must have some killer muscles from that. Guys who work on farms are always healthy and strong.

Was... Did it as a child of 16.

 

[Shin no Shi]

That makes me wonder, are the people who are happy to be a part of society merely deluding themselves, and if they are, are those delusions something worth having if it makes you content?

There are those who are content with being part of soyciety, these are usually those who are "winning" in it of course and those who need the attention of others due to fear of loneliness. Then there are those who live in it purely to garner control over the microcosm, because why else apart from complete dominion.

It's usually ones that benefit from it all that say they are content. Those who are discarded like me, are expected to either support their stupid trash and consider them like my "own" or just leave/be mocked til death.

You should have possibly read that thread on a guy who killed his family by the name of John List, it shouldn't be hard to decipher why, considering the amount of shame it brought was enough for him to snap. Then there are those who are married and assume they are going to live a happy life but years after it's just being sapped away, when they get less sex from their partner in comparison to what they had years ago, having to do the same mundane things as well as being nagged by everyone, not all however, face this, but some do.

I just need soyciety for transactional reasons, and because of my interests and desires that I would need, otherwise, I possibly would have fallen into an abyss filled with bloodlust.

 

[based_meme]

Do you feel like a part of society? Do you go out into the world and have acquaintances (if not friends), can you hold your head high when going out and feel as a respectable member of society? Do you feel in touch with the people around you?

No. Yes, no. Absolutely not.

Anyway, I think a part of our misery is this feeling of not being a proper member of society, with the proper links to society, with the proper respect etc... And yet I kind of chose to not be a part of society.

Missing that sense of belonging does heavily contribute to overall misery. Happiness levels are much higher in developing countries than they are in developed and prosperous countries. In the former there's a sense of community and the culture tends to be collectivist. In the latter everybody is insular and hypercompetitive - it's purely individualistic.

In Western, capitalist cultures you're all alone and your support structure is the institutions of society, rather than the people of society. Got a problem you need to talk about? Get a therapist, because you don't have any close friends who give a shit about you or your problems. Got financial difficulties? Get a bank loan on a line of credit, because there aren't community members who will pitch in to pull you out of a hole. Got a fued or a quarrel with somebody? Get a lawyer and take it to civil court, because there's no community leader who can fairly arbitrate. Your humanity eventually becomes corporatized and commercialized.

We're seeing the last vestiges of humanity in today's modern world. Everything is cold, calculated, and bureaucratic. Of course, everyone's miserable.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

It’s not our fault. I would love to be a part of something, but I’m too deformed to form normal human relationships.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

I started it all through my own decisions and personality

I used to think the same thing but honestly I think we just react to how the community treats us. If we feel something is off, we behave like we're not a part of it, and we become outcasts as time goes by.

 

[Alone75]

No, I'll never know how that feels. I've actually thought about this before how Indian men in poverty mog me trawling through rubbish tips for shit they can sell. Then going back to a woman and his kids later in their tiny tin shack.

 

[The Zulfigar]

I'd gladly shovel shit all day if it got me a loving and loyal non obese gf

Though

It’s not our fault. I would love to be a part of something.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

There are those who are content with being part of soyciety, these are usually those who are "winning" in it of course and those who need the attention of others due to fear of loneliness. Then there are those who live in it purely to garner control over the microcosm, because why else apart from complete dominion.

It's usually ones that benefit from it all that say they are content. Those who are discarded like me, are expected to either support their stupid trash and consider them like my "own" or just leave/be mocked til death.

You should have possibly read that thread on a guy who killed his family by the name of John List, it shouldn't be hard to decipher why, considering the amount of shame it brought was enough for him to snap. Then there are those who are married and assume they are going to live a happy life but years after it's just being sapped away, when they get less sex from their partner in comparison to what they had years ago, having to do the same mundane things as well as being nagged by everyone, not all however, face this, but some do.

I just need soyciety for transactional reasons, and because of my interests and desires that I would need, otherwise, I possibly would have fallen into an abyss filled with bloodlust.

That's an interesting mindset that I almost entirely agree with. Except my own interests and desires part. I don't really have any interests or desires (that are realistic anyway). So my one desire and interest is to be left alone, to rot in my room forever. But I can't do that. I'll be forced to wageslave and spend all working for basically no money in this shithole country. So I'm forced to participate in society but I'm not only not using it to advance my interests, I'm actually participating against my will and against my interests. Well, against my will in the sense that it's either work or starve but you get the point.

 

[Shin no Shi]

That's an interesting mindset that I almost entirely agree with. Except my own interests and desires part. I don't really have any interests or desires (that are realistic anyway). So my one desire and interest is to be left alone, to rot in my room forever. But I can't do that. I'll be forced to wageslave and spend all working for basically no money in this shithole country. So I'm forced to participate in society but I'm not only not using it to advance my interests, I'm actually participating against my will and against my interests. Well, against my will in the sense that it's either work or starve but you get the point.

Yeah I understand. I don’t know if you have a garden or not but you could look into making your own food or something that makes you self sufficient without relying on anyone.
Though this is a choice you can take or not.

If possible, off grid living can be an option for you to live away from everyone if its what you want, though this won’t be easy.

 

[Outcast444]

Do you feel like a part of society? Do you go out into the world and have acquaintances (if not friends), can you hold your head high when going out and feel as a respectable member of society? Do you feel in touch with the people around you?

I guess I always felt as the odd man out. Not necessarily an outcast, though many times that too, but I actively didn't even want to participate, I avoided the so-called community. At school, uni etc... it's not cause I was ugly that I was the outcast, but I started it all through my own decisions and personality. Idk, there were times when people sort of invited me at first, when nobody knew each other on the first day of uni for example and I had the chance to tag along, but I always avoided people. I always felt like it was a huge drag, I always would rather rush home to lay in bed and stare at a screen, what the fuck is wrong with me?

Anyway, I think a part of our misery is this feeling of not being a proper member of society, with the proper links to society, with the proper respect etc... And yet I kind of chose to not be a part of society.

I guess deep down, we knew we were outsiders from a young age - and would never have a regular love life - hence chose to withdraw somewhat in order to remove the rejection