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Discussion The "Women Are Born With Value Men Have to Earn it" Lie

michael99

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So men have to increase their value by earning money and power and things like houses and cars.

But women have great value built in.

Excuse me?

What value do women bring to the table? A pussy? That's literally it.

Think of this - a woman is born physically smaller and weaker then 99% of men. Have you ever seen them? An adult woman has hands and feet that look like they belong on a 9 year old boy. So straight away she's essentially useless at any kind of physical labor. And don't believe the lie that technology has made men's physical strength useless. Far from it. We men still do 99% of the work that requires physical strength. Construction, police work, military, etc. Basically 99% of all essential infrastructure that prevents society from collapsing. Women do not want to and cannot do these jobs, and for good reason. Their bodies simply arent up to the task.

So what really gives women their 'value'?

A man's hormones.

I can't remember who said it but there's a really good quote from a guy who said 'If women are so inherently wonderful and desireable (valuable), why is my body flooded with hormones that push me to want to be with them?'

Think about this for a second. If your sex drive was completely removed, and everyone, men and women, had no genitals, and reproduction was manufactured in labs, just how valuable would women be? They would turn into a burden very fast. They would essentially be adult children. It's our sex drive that gives them value.

Men have inherent value. We GIVE value to women.

But society is doing all it can to reverse that, and it's failing miserably.

They gave women the power to choose thier partner through dating apps, the removal of arranged marriage etc

How is that such a big mistake?

It completely upends the power dynamic that nature had between a man and a woman.

Men are born with very high value - that's why we have such low standards when it comes to choosing the woman we like. We don't need her to add value to us. We already have high value. Yes even an incel. We want her mostly for her hole, and company. That's it. Whereas your average woman will want ALOT from a man, because they are so inherently lacking as humans. It's like going to the grocery store as a starving African (women) and trying to get all the food you can, vs going there as healthy and competent (men)- who is going to be more greedy in their choices?

When they weren't allowed to choose their husbands they had to accept the man that wanted them. They weren't allowed to be greedy.

Women NEED the high intrinsic value of a man. Think about it. She is born incredibly physically weak. She has very little creativity (most inventions are made by men). She has no humor (that's why all women want a guy who can make them laugh). Women are basically empty husks with a hole. This is why women chase the top 5% of men. It's because they are greedy because they are lacking in so much. They want to leach off a man's value because they have none to offer themselves. Yes even an incel is more valuable then a woman. Of course we aren't in the eyes of normies etc, but in reality, in nature, we are. You as a man have way more smarts, creativity, humor, wit, intelligence then a woman ever will have even if you are LDARing your still more valuable then a woman.
 
You as a man have way more smarts, creativity, humor, wit, intelligence then a woman ever will have even if you are LDARing your still more valuable then a woman.

This isn't a site for Reddit members.
 
What you said is true, but women will always be more valuable whilst men will always remain biologically disposable.
 
Actually women are better than men, they do better in schools, and have really good social lives. They already lifemog men by default.
 
foid hive mind
 
This isn't a site for Reddit members.

Your looksmatched female counterpart was born a more useful member of society then you? No way. She was given that not on merit

Actually women are better than men, they do better in schools, and have really good social lives. They already lifemog men by default.

Because men are checking out of society. We're dropping out of education and the workforce. Thier social lives are excellent because of social media and the countless orbiters it gave them
 
they're referring to the reality of dating today, not inherent truths
 
This saying is stupid because there is no such thing as inherent value. Morality is part of our subjective worldview that we project onto things.
 
they're referring to the reality of dating today, not inherent truths

I just hate all the stupid nonsense out there. How things are getting twisted around because of how dating apps and other garbage have completely twisted the male female dynamic

For example you have people telling men now its normal to wait until your 30s before you have sex and find a woman because men are suppose to spend their 20s building value to attract a woman when they get in their 30s. Its such garbage. Meanwhile a woman is suppose to have fun in her 20s, sleep with countless chads, then settle down with a dude who spent his 20s busting his ass to be wealthy. Its utter bullshit
 
I just hate all the stupid nonsense out there. How things are getting twisted around because of how dating apps and other garbage have completely twisted the male female dynamic

For example you have people telling men now its normal to wait until your 30s before you have sex and find a woman because men are suppose to spend their 20s building value to attract a woman when they get in their 30s. Its such garbage. Meanwhile a woman is suppose to have fun in her 20s, sleep with countless chads, then settle down with a dude who spent his 20s busting his ass to be wealthy. Its utter bullshit
yeah, that's complete horsehit. You're in your sexual prime right before and during your 20s. It's psychologically damaging to be tortured daily never being able to fulfill your urges just to become some cuck provider who gets treated taken advantage of because you're so desperate and lack the social experience.
 
yeah, that's complete horsehit. You're in your sexual prime right before and during your 20s. It's psychologically damaging to be tortured daily never being able to fulfill your urges just to become some cuck provider who gets treated taken advantage of because you're so desperate and lack the social experience.

It's some kind of mainstream cope that PUAs, grifters, Chads etc are throwing out there

"Oh your lonely and sexless and girlfriendless in your 20s? Bro that's normal. It's all about your 30s bro."

STFU

That shit isn't normal, never has been normal, and is destroying society.

Everyone is treated like a commodity now. Your only real value is your SMV. That's how everyone sees you.

The core issue is the mainstream/normie refusal to call out women on their on the bullshit. These idiots don't realize they have given women all the power, and thus women should be held responsible for poor decisions. Such as whoring themselves for money on OF/IG etc or sleeping with countless Chads.

When men had the power we were held responsible for what we did - and rightfully so. We called the shots, so when things went bad, we were rightfully called out for steering the ship in the wrong direction. Women now have the keys. They're taking society and dragging it to hell, FAST. Yet cucks, normies etc REFUSE to call them out ofr it.

Part of women's liberation is that they are untouchable - you can't criticize them. They can be the biggest whore, overweight etc, and you are suppose to say they are a queen. Society is going to collapse, FAST.
 
This is true, but we will always have male hormones so we can't do anything about it unless society as a whole completely changes.
 
So men have to increase their value by earning money and power and things like houses and cars.

But women have great value built in.

Excuse me?

What value do women bring to the table? A pussy? That's literally it.

Think of this - a woman is born physically smaller and weaker then 99% of men. Have you ever seen them? An adult woman has hands and feet that look like they belong on a 9 year old boy. So straight away she's essentially useless at any kind of physical labor. And don't believe the lie that technology has made men's physical strength useless. Far from it. We men still do 99% of the work that requires physical strength. Construction, police work, military, etc. Basically 99% of all essential infrastructure that prevents society from collapsing. Women do not want to and cannot do these jobs, and for good reason. Their bodies simply arent up to the task.

So what really gives women their 'value'?

A man's hormones.

I can't remember who said it but there's a really good quote from a guy who said 'If women are so inherently wonderful and desireable (valuable), why is my body flooded with hormones that push me to want to be with them?'

Think about this for a second. If your sex drive was completely removed, and everyone, men and women, had no genitals, and reproduction was manufactured in labs, just how valuable would women be? They would turn into a burden very fast. They would essentially be adult children. It's our sex drive that gives them value.

Men have inherent value. We GIVE value to women.

But society is doing all it can to reverse that, and it's failing miserably.

They gave women the power to choose thier partner through dating apps, the removal of arranged marriage etc

How is that such a big mistake?

It completely upends the power dynamic that nature had between a man and a woman.

Men are born with very high value - that's why we have such low standards when it comes to choosing the woman we like. We don't need her to add value to us. We already have high value. Yes even an incel. We want her mostly for her hole, and company. That's it. Whereas your average woman will want ALOT from a man, because they are so inherently lacking as humans. It's like going to the grocery store as a starving African (women) and trying to get all the food you can, vs going there as healthy and competent (men)- who is going to be more greedy in their choices?

When they weren't allowed to choose their husbands they had to accept the man that wanted them. They weren't allowed to be greedy.

Women NEED the high intrinsic value of a man. Think about it. She is born incredibly physically weak. She has very little creativity (most inventions are made by men). She has no humor (that's why all women want a guy who can make them laugh). Women are basically empty husks with a hole. This is why women chase the top 5% of men. It's because they are greedy because they are lacking in so much. They want to leach off a man's value because they have none to offer themselves. Yes even an incel is more valuable then a woman. Of course we aren't in the eyes of normies etc, but in reality, in nature, we are. You as a man have way more smarts, creativity, humor, wit, intelligence then a woman ever will have even if you are LDARing your still more valuable then a woman.
High IQ
 
Genius post and thread. But nothing’s going to ever change. Men will never not be horny.

We have to pray the replicants get here fast, only then will men stop giving women this power.
 
So what really gives women their 'value'?

A man's hormones.

I can't remember who said it but there's a really good quote from a guy who said 'If women are so inherently wonderful and desireable (valuable), why is my body flooded with hormones that push me to want to be with them?'

Think about this for a second. If your sex drive was completely removed, and everyone, men and women, had no genitals, and reproduction was manufactured in labs, just how valuable would women be? They would turn into a burden very fast. They would essentially be adult children. It's our sex drive that gives them value.

Men have inherent value. We GIVE value to women.
Quite well summed, they do realise they have no value, which is why, when sites such as this one, question and counter that fact, they defend it so vehemently and out you, with the men giving them this value backing them up, positing you as an outcast. The internet provides a medium for those cast out to discuss their problems free of their control and that just exacerbates their rage.
 
What you said is true, but women will always be more valuable whilst men will always remain biologically disposable.
Actually women are better than men, they do better in schools, and have really good social lives. They already lifemog men by default.
Foid worship and NPC thinking, men aren't disposable its the soyciety that treats them as such.
 
Actually women are better than men, they do better in schools, and have really good social lives. They already lifemog men by default.
They're even starting to outearn men. It's over.
 
Foid worship and NPC thinking, men aren't disposable its the soyciety that treats them as such.
That wasn't my intention, was just simply being objective, and I don't think you've fully understood what I've said or mean. There's no denying that women live better than men and that women are simply more sexually desired overall. Women are more valuable than men (other men will throw other men in the ditch to court more women), that's the truth. It's cope thinking that men are better than women. The only thing men mog women in is physical strength and physical strength or masculinity in its entirety isn't really that desired in Western society.
 
Actually women are better than men
u should be banned
they do better in schools
because its made in there favour
and have really good social lives
because ppl make it easy for them
What you said is true, but women will always be more valuable whilst men will always remain biologically disposable.
females only real value is there womb. create an artificial womb and all there value is gone
 
This is true, but we will always have male hormones so we can't do anything about it unless society as a whole completely changes.
technology could do something about it in the near future im sure
 
Genius post and thread. But nothing’s going to ever change. Men will never not be horny.

We have to pray the replicants get here fast, only then will men stop giving women this power.
in the near future there could be technology where that isnt the case
 
That wasn't my intention, was just simply being objective, and I don't think you've fully understood what I've said or mean. There's no denying that women live better than men and that women are simply more sexually desired overall. Women are more valuable than men (other men will throw other men in the ditch to court more women), that's the truth. It's cope thinking that men are better than women. The only thing men mog women in is physical strength and physical strength or masculinity in its entirety isn't really that desired in Western society.
this is rlly fucking stupid. plz think. women arent capable of building a modern like soyciety like what we see today. men are
 
So men have to increase their value by earning money and power and things like houses and cars.

But women have great value built in.

Excuse me?

What value do women bring to the table? A pussy? That's literally it.

Think of this - a woman is born physically smaller and weaker then 99% of men. Have you ever seen them? An adult woman has hands and feet that look like they belong on a 9 year old boy. So straight away she's essentially useless at any kind of physical labor. And don't believe the lie that technology has made men's physical strength useless. Far from it. We men still do 99% of the work that requires physical strength. Construction, police work, military, etc. Basically 99% of all essential infrastructure that prevents society from collapsing. Women do not want to and cannot do these jobs, and for good reason. Their bodies simply arent up to the task.

So what really gives women their 'value'?

A man's hormones.

I can't remember who said it but there's a really good quote from a guy who said 'If women are so inherently wonderful and desireable (valuable), why is my body flooded with hormones that push me to want to be with them?'

Think about this for a second. If your sex drive was completely removed, and everyone, men and women, had no genitals, and reproduction was manufactured in labs, just how valuable would women be? They would turn into a burden very fast. They would essentially be adult children. It's our sex drive that gives them value.

Men have inherent value. We GIVE value to women.

But society is doing all it can to reverse that, and it's failing miserably.

They gave women the power to choose thier partner through dating apps, the removal of arranged marriage etc

How is that such a big mistake?

It completely upends the power dynamic that nature had between a man and a woman.

Men are born with very high value - that's why we have such low standards when it comes to choosing the woman we like. We don't need her to add value to us. We already have high value. Yes even an incel. We want her mostly for her hole, and company. That's it. Whereas your average woman will want ALOT from a man, because they are so inherently lacking as humans. It's like going to the grocery store as a starving African (women) and trying to get all the food you can, vs going there as healthy and competent (men)- who is going to be more greedy in their choices?

When they weren't allowed to choose their husbands they had to accept the man that wanted them. They weren't allowed to be greedy.

Women NEED the high intrinsic value of a man. Think about it. She is born incredibly physically weak. She has very little creativity (most inventions are made by men). She has no humor (that's why all women want a guy who can make them laugh). Women are basically empty husks with a hole. This is why women chase the top 5% of men. It's because they are greedy because they are lacking in so much. They want to leach off a man's value because they have none to offer themselves. Yes even an incel is more valuable then a woman. Of course we aren't in the eyes of normies etc, but in reality, in nature, we are. You as a man have way more smarts, creativity, humor, wit, intelligence then a woman ever will have even if you are LDARing your still more valuable then a woman.

indeed. what you say is 100% correct

but we can't change anything about it. maybe future generations could, but what does this mean for us? nothing. a lonely life full of misery and suffering.


humans are preprogrammed to feel like shit without sex, especially men.

even if women are worthless and dumb, we still need them or we will become depressed, start rotting and posting on incel boards

that is the aspect of nature, too.


@edit jfl why was OP banned? is this even still an incel site or is everyone here 15yo now. high quality thread
 
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Women have the vessels that can create a human into the next generation. No vagina no human. Sperm is cheap and plentify. of course they're going to be intrinsically more valuable.
 
It's our sex drive that gives them value.
Yes and our sex drive makes them inherentlt valuable that's why they are mentally and physically inferior to the average man. They are pre pubescent males. They don't need to grow up
 
it isn't exactly a lie because the value of foids is their sexual appeal, therefore not all women are born valuable, ugly foids are not even human in some cultures (which is correct), the best part is even high smv foids will lose their inherent value the moment they hit the wall, for men, a chad will always be a chad, a subhuman will always be a subhuman.
 
Actually women are better than men, they do better in schools, and have really good social lives. They already lifemog men by default.
jfl simp nigger the reason they're better is because they are better at sitting and listen to the teacher 's every command like a good doggy unlike masculine boys who will fight each other and don't like listening to someone else
 
Women have the vessels that can create a human into the next generation. No vagina no human. Sperm is cheap and plentify. of course they're going to be intrinsically more valuable.
Actually there's a surplus of women in 40+ demographics of every country. But they are never treated as disposable.
 
this is rlly fucking stupid. plz think. women arent capable of building a modern like soyciety like what we see today. men are
That's what happens when people are born in a cushy western country. But even western societies are regressing; housing crisis, high living-expenses, wages getting fucked by women entering workforce. It's easy to think the ones building roads, houses and mining for natural resources even to this day are no better than your HR foids, bank teller foids, or any foids in general working in offices when you're not doing it everyday.
 

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