Discussion The upper echelon of truecels and their consequences

[JollyGentleman]

May 23 marked a decade since ER’s infamous ‘Day of Retribution’ in Isla Vista. Much has been said about that day and the life that he led, but what I’m wondering is the extent to which him being half White and half Asian was a factor in his inceldom and his perception of race.

For those of you who are Asian, half-Asian, or somewhere in between, how would you say that your ethnicity has affected your inceldom? What are your thoughts on race mixing?

In ER’s case, he truly got the worst of all possible situations. He was a half-Asian manlet framecel who seemed to be neurodivergent and came from parents who couldn’t care less about the genes and looks that they gave him. It also didn’t help that he was living in a swanky upper class town in coastal Southern California where his competition was tall White HTNs and Chads.

Some say that he was a fakecel, a pampered dolt with unreasonable standards. While I understand that perspective I don’t think that was his situation. He had to rent an apartment with three other ricecels and his parents struggled to keep up with the car payments for his BMW.


It’s clear from ER’s manifesto that being half-Asian clearly bothered him:

“I am of mixed race. I am half White, half Asian, and this made me different from the normal fully-white kids that I was trying to fit in with. I envied the cool kids, and I wanted to be one of them. I was a bit frustrated at my parents for not shaping me into one of these kids in the past.”

And ER rightfully felt disdain and contempt for White foids who cavorted with non-Whites. Whether they are fully Asian:

“As my frustration grew, so did my anger. I came across this Asian guy who was talking to a white girl. The sight of that filled me with rage. I always felt as if white girls thought less of me because I was half-Asian, but then I see this white girl at the party talking to a full-blooded Asian. I never had that kind of attention from a white girl! And white girls are the only girls I’m attracted to, especially the blondes. How could an ugly Asian attract the attention of a white girl, while a beautiful Eurasian like myself never had any attention from them? I thought with rage.”

Or Black:

“My first week turned out to be very unpleasant, leaving a horrific first impression of my new life in Santa Barbara. My two housemates were nice, but they kept inviting over this friend of theirs named Chance. He was black boy who came over all the time, and I hated his cocksure attitude. Inevitably, a vile incident occurred between me and him. I was eating a meal in the kitchen when he came over and started bragging to my housemates about his success with girls. I couldn’t stand it, so I proceeded to ask them all if they were virgins. They all looked at me weirdly and said that they had lost their virginity long ago. I felt so inferior, as it reminded me of how much I have missed out in life. And then this black boy named Chance said that he lost his virginity when he was only thirteen! In addition, he said that the girl he lost his virginity to was a blonde white girl! I was so enraged that I almost splashed him with my orange juice.”

I honestly understand his fury at the sight of mixed race couples. Given the fact that ER was mixed race himself, he was probably hyper aware of his own racial ambiguity and that of those around him, in addition to the severe mental consequences of a lack of a distinct racial and cultural identity. Which is why I would contend that Incels who are mixed-race are one of the few groups who are unambiguously truecels. They literally can’t do anything about their inceldom, they can’t go back to their mother’s homeland to JBW or even betabuxx.

 

[PrototypeCel]

"but he had a bmw he was so spoiled he threw it all away"

 

[JollyGentleman]

"but he had a bmw he was so spoiled he threw it all away"

Are you trying to mimic a normie

 

[PrototypeCel]

Are you trying to mimic a normie

both some incels and normies

 

[Animecel2D]

For those of you who are Asian, half-Asian, or somewhere in between, how would you say that your ethnicity has affected your inceldom? What are your thoughts on race mixing?

I feel barely human. Ever since primary school I have always been ostracized and bullied by others for looking vastly different from my peers since i grew up in a predominantly white neighbourhood. I could not make friends at all, i feel like a foreigner in the country i was born in and worse still is the fact even i cannot go back to my "home country" because i will be just as much of a incel there as i am here in cuckstralia

I blame racemixing a lot for how my life ended up but i have come to a realization it isnt entirely the source of my problems. There are chad looking hapas out there who have literally none of my problems whatsoever and were most likely born from good looking parents or simply had a stroke of good luck with genetic recombination.

As i mentioned in a recent thread of mine there was no way i was going to come out as anything other than a short, hideous mutt https://incels.is/threads/i-hate-the-fact-i-was-born-a-hapa.687286/

even on this forum i feel less than human. Fellow ricecels here, who i more closely resemble to than whites hate me and fantasize about me violently dying by their own hands https://incels.is/threads/put-bunch-of-hapa-in-a-room.688282/

i have been called a bot, i have been called AI, i have been called a fed, i have been questioned if multiple people are using my account. The fakecel cucks here cannot fathom that i am simply such a no-life loser that i spend 24/7 rotting here

in their minds, they cannot comprehend that someone like me exists. I am so much of a loser that even other people find it hard to believe

 

[JollyGentleman]

both some incels and normies

When normies say that ER threw it all away, I think they are coping. They don't know how to respond so they just regurgitate nonsense that they heard on a random podcast or something like that.

 

[JollyGentleman]

I feel barely human. Ever since primary school I have always been ostracized and bullied by others for looking vastly different from my peers since i grew up in a predominantly white neighbourhood. I could not make friends at all, i feel like a foreigner in the country i was born in and worse still is the fact even i cannot go back to my "home country" because i will be just as much of a incel there as i am here in cuckstralia

I blame racemixing a lot for how my life ended up but i have come to a realization it isnt entirely the source of my problems. There are chad looking hapas out there who have literally none of my problems whatsoever and were most likely born from good looking parents or simply had a stroke of good luck with genetic recombination.

As i mentioned in a recent thread of mine there was no way i was going to come out as anything other than a short, hideous mutt https://incels.is/threads/i-hate-the-fact-i-was-born-a-hapa.687286/

even on this forum i feel less than human. Fellow ricecels here, who i more closely resemble to than whites hate me and fantasize about me violently dying by their own hands https://incels.is/threads/put-bunch-of-hapa-in-a-room.688282/

i have been called a bot, i have been called AI, i have been called a fed, i have been questioned if multiple people are using my account. The fakecel cucks here cannot fathom that i am simply such a no-life loser that i spend 24/7 rotting here

in their minds, they cannot comprehend that someone like me exists. I am so much of a loser that even other people find it hard to believe

I can empathize a lot with your situation.

As you say, being mixed-race is not the entire problem but I would say that it's the majority. The good looking hapas are typically a quarter or an eighth Asian, or their White parent's genes just revealed itself more than the Asian parent's. I've certainly seen hapas who the average normie would find attractive but as I said, they appear mostly White. Anecdotally I would say the average hapa foid tends to be more attractive but I suppose that's up for interpretation.

In my case, my father is English/American and my mother is Thai. He was 65 when I was born, she was 38. As you can imagine there were a lot of problems before I was even born. Apparently because her Asian womb was too small for a half-White baby so they had to cut her open when I was born. I've also read several studies that the sperm of older guys can introduce psychological problems to the baby.

What's worse is that my father's brother and sister both got married young to spouses who were blonde and blue eyed, meaning that literally every single one of their children is tall, blonde, and blue eyed. Meanwhile I'm a manlet with black hair and brown eyes. Some people can tell that I'm mixed, but in America let alone Northern Europe they just think I'm fully Asian.

There was this one time when I was travelling in Germany when I was walking past some HTNs/Chads when they just said "Ni Hao" presumably thinking that I was Chinese, not even a week later when I was with my mother's family in Thailand, they were making of fun of me because I'm only half Thai while they were purely Thai. I can think of so many stories like that during my childhood and in recent years where I just sort of instinctively knew that my fate was sealed before I was even born. It's a simmering agony that very few people can truly understand.

How do you cope with being a hapa? Do you plan on perpetually LDAR? Ropemaxxing?

 

[JollyGentleman]

I feel barely human. Ever since primary school I have always been ostracized and bullied by others for looking vastly different from my peers since i grew up in a predominantly white neighbourhood. I could not make friends at all, i feel like a foreigner in the country i was born in and worse still is the fact even i cannot go back to my "home country" because i will be just as much of a incel there as i am here in cuckstralia

I blame racemixing a lot for how my life ended up but i have come to a realization it isnt entirely the source of my problems. There are chad looking hapas out there who have literally none of my problems whatsoever and were most likely born from good looking parents or simply had a stroke of good luck with genetic recombination.

As i mentioned in a recent thread of mine there was no way i was going to come out as anything other than a short, hideous mutt https://incels.is/threads/i-hate-the-fact-i-was-born-a-hapa.687286/

even on this forum i feel less than human. Fellow ricecels here, who i more closely resemble to than whites hate me and fantasize about me violently dying by their own hands https://incels.is/threads/put-bunch-of-hapa-in-a-room.688282/

i have been called a bot, i have been called AI, i have been called a fed, i have been questioned if multiple people are using my account. The fakecel cucks here cannot fathom that i am simply such a no-life loser that i spend 24/7 rotting here

in their minds, they cannot comprehend that someone like me exists. I am so much of a loser that even other people find it hard to believe

These are a few studies about why race mixing is an empirical detriment on mixed children. I think you would find them interesting.

archive.is/NH2EX
https://archive.is/P9Ghc
http://archive.is/qaGQj
https://archive.is/SKw27
http://archive.is/inyxQ
http://archive.is/M7itt
https://archive.is/97g7m

 

[Animecel2D]

In my case, my father is English/American and my mother is Thai. He was 65 when I was born, she was 38. As you can imagine there were a lot of problems before I was even born. Apparently because her Asian womb was too small for a half-White baby so they had to cut her open when I was born. I've also read several studies that the sperm of older guys can introduce psychological problems to the baby.

Damn you too, huh? My dad was also pretty fucking old too when I was born. Almost 60, my mum was late 20s though. He was australian/german and she was filipino

There was this one time when I was travelling in Germany when I was walking past some HTNs/Chads when they just said "Ni Hao" presumably thinking that I was Chinese, not even a week later when I was with my mother's family in Thailand, they were making of fun of me because I'm only half Thai while they were purely Thai. I can think of so many stories like that during my childhood and in recent years where I just sort of instinctively knew that my fate was sealed before I was even born. It's a simmering agony that very few people can truly understand.

Can relate with this hard, I have sometimes been mistaken as chinese too. The times I visited my mothers family I was treated very coldly like I didn’t exist, they all conversed in their own language that I didn’t understand and I just awkwardly sat there feeling completely out of place like I always do

How do you cope with being a hapa? Do you plan on perpetually LDAR? Ropemaxxing?

There is no future for me. I’ve rotted far too long as a neet to climb myself out of this pit, there is nothing left to do but to rot. The closest I came to roping was a failure and I will never have another opportunity to do so

 

[Animecel2D]

These are a few studies about why race mixing is an empirical detriment on mixed children. I think you would find them interesting.

archive.is/NH2EX
https://archive.is/P9Ghc
http://archive.is/qaGQj
https://archive.is/SKw27
http://archive.is/inyxQ
http://archive.is/M7itt
https://archive.is/97g7m

Man I’m not going to feel well after reading all of that but thanks anyway

I’ll take a look at them later

 

[JollyGentleman]

Man I’m not going to feel well after reading all of that but thanks anyway

I’ll take a look at them later

They pretty much say what most of us on .is have already known for quite some time. I've been doing some research on this topic and that's what I've found thus far. It brought more clarity to what I've been feeling for quite some time.

 

[JollyGentleman]

Damn you too, huh? My dad was also pretty fucking old too when I was born. Almost 60, my mum was late 20s though. He was australian/german and she was filipino

Can relate with this hard, I have sometimes been mistaken as chinese too. The times I visited my mothers family I was treated very coldly like I didn’t exist, they all conversed in their own language that I didn’t understand and I just awkwardly sat there feeling completely out of place like I always do

There is no future for me. I’ve rotted far too long as a neet to climb myself out of this pit, there is nothing left to do but to rot. The closest I came to roping was a failure and I will never have another opportunity to do so

I would attest that most, if not every single one of us was a result of a JBW and betabuxx relationship. Even now I'm not exactly sure how to feel about being mixed and my inability to get a romantic relationship because of it. In some ways it's surreal to even think that such a thing is even possible but most of the time I'm just numb to it all.

Even beyond sex and romance I have never and probably never will form a genuine connection with my closest family members let alone some random foid precisely because of being mixed-race. As you said in your initial reply, it's not the end all be all, but if you're a manlet, framecel, and neurodivergent, then it become the defining problem of your life.

Sometimes I mourn for the life that I could have lived. The male relatives on my father's side of the family are HTN/Chadlites and are tall ,blonde, and blue eyed. Some of the foids that they date could probably be fashion models if they wanted to. I bring this up to highlight how the problems that we face in this regard are not out fault at all. Maybe I could have been one of them, it's too late now.

What are your suggestions for how to cope?
You said that you were a longterm NEET and wouldn't being ropemaxxing anytime soon. How do you do it?

 

[Animecel2D]

I would attest that most, if not every single one of us was a result of a JBW and betabuxx relationship. Even now I'm not exactly sure how to feel about being mixed and my inability to get a romantic relationship because of it. In some ways it's surreal to even think that such a thing is even possible but most of the time I'm just numb to it all.

Personally I feel pissed about it. Why do I have to fucking suffer because of my parents STUPID, selfish actions? Why do I have to be treated like an utter alien by normies? Why do foids have to look at me in disgust as soon as they see my face? None of this is my fault, I didn’t ask for this, I didn’t want this, all I feel is a burning hate for my situation

Sometimes I mourn for the life that I could have lived. The male relatives on my father's side of the family are HTN/Chadlites and are tall ,blonde, and blue eyed. Some of the foids that they date could probably be fashion models if they wanted to. I bring this up to highlight how the problems that we face in this regard are not out fault at all. Maybe I could have been one of them, it's too late now.

My condolences man that sounds especially brutal. All of the male relatives on my dads side including himself are long dead so at least I don’t have to deal with getting mogged by them too

What are your suggestions for how to cope?

Idk man… you just have to find something you genuinely like doing and bury yourself in it. Easier said than done though

 

[JollyGentleman]

Personally I feel pissed about it. Why do I have to fucking suffer because of my parents STUPID, selfish actions? Why do I have to be treated like an utter alien by normies? Why do foids have to look at me in disgust as soon as they see my face? None of this is my fault, I didn’t ask for this, I didn’t want this, all I feel is a burning hate for my situation

My condolences man that sounds especially brutal. All of the male relatives on my dads side including himself are long dead so at least I don’t have to deal with getting mogged by them too

Idk man… you just have to find something you genuinely like doing and bury yourself in it. Easier said than done though

Not to sound conceited or anything but I think this is a major reason why we can automatically be considered trucels. Because those who are sub-5, a manlet, framecel, dark hair and eye color, in addition to being a hapa can quite literally do nothing at all. If you were only Philipino or me only Thai we could at the very least have a chance in those countries. But, as this thread exchange has proven, we would still be a misanthropic truecel in either one of our parent's homeland.

I have not been keeping up with Australian news but I would assume that like England the laws around social media, and various aspects of sex and romance are highly biased in favor of the foids regardless of the situation.

I appreciate your concern and I wish you nothing but the best. Hopefully I'll escape inceldom soon, probably not in this life though LOL.