The Turkish identity is a bizarre and confusing one | Turkish DNA

[Balikesir]

Turkish identity is bizarre. Westerners will call you Greek. Southern europeans will call you Mongolian. Mongolians will call you Greek. Turks of Central Asia will call you Greek. Greeks will call you Greek when you identify as Turkic. If you don't they will call you Mongolian.

This has always been weird to me. It doesn't happen to anyone else to this extend.

The Turkish identity is a joke. It is based on the Kemalist quote "How happy is the one who says he's a Turk". Our ethnicity is based on a quote from a jew.

This is how they assimilated most.

People subconsciously know this. Our identity is very fragile. Now with the migrant crisis in turkey and rise in islamism it will confuse people further.

The average Turkish person is not a mix of all neighbours. The average Turkish person does not have Kurdish. The average Turkish person does not look east asian. It is very simple what Turkish people are. They are the natives of their land.

Here I have made a post covering the history of how we are majority native in genes if you are interested in that. I will expand on it in a future post.

Thread 'Early Turkish history: Rise of the Ottomans, identity and culture.' https://incels.is/threads/early-turkish-history-rise-of-the-ottomans-identity-and-culture.673242/

Here is Medieval Turkish people. You can see they are almost half Turkic. This changed because the Greeks were a higher demographic than Turks. Leading to more Greek genetics in Turkish.

This post is simply to show the Turkish dna from people who do not have foreign ancestry.

You can see. Turkish dna is simple. Anatolian Greek and 15-20% Turkic. Balkan Turks are full Balkan except a few percentages.

@Ubermenschvirtues @DarkStar (Maybe you are interested in this)

 

[Balikesir]

Eastern Turkey is a different topic. This is for this area of Turkey.

Everything west of black.

 

[Adûnâi]

Super interesting! Slavland Chronicles denies the existence of all Tatars, but that's rather outlandish. What are the sources for the pictures? Some obscure forums? TheApricity and such? (I've never partook in their discussions, sadly.)

Why would you call Atatürk a Jew? He saved the Anatolian people from defeat at the hands of the Entente, that's more based than the Germans, or even the Japanese. He's kind of like their Lenin, very based.

I will read more, but what's the point overall? Sure, Anatolia was place of a dozen different ethnicities (Pontus, Paphlagonia, Bithynia, Mysia, Lydia, Phrygia, Caria, Lycia, Pamphylia, Galatia, Cappadocia, Cilicia, Armenia). And then the Hittites and the Greeks. So what? Sure, they have also been split between Christianity, Islam, and indeed the Turks. That's a mess, but the country still exists.

What I would understand, however, is an Islamic (or imperial Ottoman) identity as much more fitting than the Turkic one. After all, the Bosnians and the Adygh are in Türkiye, too, but definitely not for the Turkic reasons, but for imperial ones.
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[Ubermenschvirtues]

As a balkan turk i would say that. i look diffrent from the other balkan people.I have black hair and im hairy af

 

[GobidCrusader]

What is the proportion of Turkic DNA regarding paternal lineage? It must be much higher.

 

[Balikesir]

Super interesting! Slavland Chronicles denies the existence of all Tatars, but that's rather outlandish. What are the sources for the pictures? Some obscure forums? TheApricity and such? (I've never partook in their discussions, sadly.)

Pictures are summarization from a discord group that was a team of researchers who used Harvard tools for genetic analysis.

This is an article officially talking about few of my points:
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4247

Why would you call Atatürk a Jew? He saved the Anatolian people from defeat at the hands of the Entente, that's more based than the Germans, or even the Japanese. He's kind of like their Lenin, very based.

I did make a detailed post on this issue.
Thread 'The Turkish independence war is a lie | How the Turkish Republic destroyed Anatolia' https://incels.is/threads/the-turki...e-turkish-republic-destroyed-anatolia.678313/

I will read more, but what's the point overall? Sure, Anatolia was place of a dozen different ethnicities (Pontus, Paphlagonia, Bithynia, Mysia, Lydia, Phrygia, Caria, Lycia, Pamphylia, Galatia, Cappadocia, Cilicia, Armenia). And then the Hittites and the Greeks. So what? Sure, they have also been split between Christianity, Islam, and indeed the Turks. That's a mess, but the country still exists.

They do. The point is the Turkish people are a continuation of these hellenized groups. When the Turks first arrived in anatolia these groups were known as Greeks. A separate Anatolian ethnic community did not exist anymore.

What I would understand, however, is an Islamic (or imperial Ottoman) identity as much more fitting than the Turkic one. After all, the Bosnians and the Adygh are in Türkiye, too, but definitely not for the Turkic reasons, but for imperial ones.

Islamic identity is fitting for turkey you are right. The elite didn't want this. They gave us a race mix worship identity. I discuss this in the post I linked.

 

[Balikesir]

What is the proportion of Turkic DNA regarding paternal lineage? It must be much higher.

Turks are majority local in y dna. It is strange their maternal lineages in oghuz is higher than paternal. Both low in % to start with.

 

[Balikesir]

As a balkan turk i would say that. i look diffrent from the other balkan people.I have black hair and im hairy af

I don't believe this is uncommon for Balkan people.

 

[ItsTrulyOver]

Turks are majority local in y dna. It is strange their maternal lineages in oghuz is higher than paternal. Both low in % to start with.

I think N Y haplogroup rather high, as well as R1a and R1b, all of which where not in Anatolia before the Turkic invasions.

 

[ItsTrulyOver]

Some of R1 is probably also Kurdish, the most annoying Turks on the internet are the Turkic DNA autists. They pretend as if they came from Mongolia yesterday and stain the reputation of Turks globally