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Has nothing to do with a "basic urge" being denied. There's solid evidence you can be a happy male without romance and sex. (2000 years of Christian saints, priests, abbots, monks, old maids and old bachelors).

It has something to do with the best distraction out there being denied. Distraction for what? The horror and hopelessness of the human condition. We are bodies condemned to decay, die in often terrible conditions and be quickly forgotten. Blaise Pascal wrote that most things men occupy themselves with, the company of women notably, is a transparent cope to avoid thinking about death. Romance is undoubtedly the thing that can occupy your mind the best to avoid thinking about your future demise. Also see terror management theory.
 
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Also, reproduction is the closest we can get to immortality in a sense.
 
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Mainländer said:
Also, reproduction is the closest we can get to immortality in a sense.
The closest is creating an institution or a work of art that embodies your ideas and mental makeup (your connectome) and survives you. We do have a stronger natural instinct for seeking immortality in sexual reproduction, though.
 
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This is why I'd prefer to be drinking heavily right now.
 
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while i agree with this concept, i personally would rather be dead than exist right now. Something about death just feels pleasurable and calm. Especially since i am an ugly male. What, as an ugly male, do i have, to offer this world, other than being a wagecuck and resenting existence every single day?
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This is why I'd prefer to be drinking heavily right now.
yea i hate sobriety
 
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You can still enjoy life without pussy mate
You can enjoy life as an attractive or at least average voluntarily celibate person, yes.
 
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It's over when you know that romance and love are also copes. The only reality is death waiting for every single of us
 
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I agree. Almost all of the 'life sucks' philosophers were actually married or had a sex life and they still hated being born. Philipp Mainländer is an exception I think (the guy managed to kill himself eventually), but they mostly just coped somehow till the end. If you have an excess of consciousness as they say, you're basically screwed regardless. I'm sure that even a smart good looking foid can be cursed with existential dread if she's too smart.
 
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I was thinking about this post so much last night it made me realize that deep down the reason why people are so disgusted by me is because im a walking embodiment of hopelessness, pain, suffering, death..... that's what they are seeing when they look at me, of course on the surface level they just look at me as ugly, but why would that bother them? why go out of their way to mock me? it's because they're AFRAID, they don't realize it but im triggering something deep within them, forcing them to see the unfairness of this world, forcing them to see what they have is because of luck alone. so now when i wake up and look in the mirror, i don't see just ugly anymore, i see death, i am death. i've forgiven myself.

Your posts are really thought provoking, i appreciate you.
 
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ChronicPaincel said:
I was thinking about this post so much last night it made me realize that deep down the reason why people are so disgusted by me is because im a walking embodiment of hopelessness, pain, suffering, death..... that's what they are seeing when they look at me, of course on the surface level they just look at me as ugly, but why would that bother them? why go out of their way to mock me? it's because they're AFRAID, they don't realize it but im triggering something deep within them, forcing them to see the unfairness of this world, forcing them to see what they have is because of luck alone. so now when i wake up and look in the mirror, i don't see just ugly anymore, i see death, i am death. i've forgiven myself.

Your posts are really thought provoking, i appreciate you.

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neckcel said:
Yeah you’re right. I’m trying to cope
Rope > cope
 
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Ignas said:
It's over when you know that romance and love are also copes. The only reality is death waiting for every single of us
 
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Honestly I don't care about any of that.

I just want the love of my waifu.
 
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Fontaine said:
Has nothing to do with a "basic urge" being denied. There's solid evidence you can be a happy male without romance and sex. (2000 years of Christian saints, priests, abbots, monks, old maids and old bachelors).

It has something to do with the best distraction out there being denied. Distraction for what? The horror and hopelessness of the human condition. We are bodies condemned to decay, die in often terrible conditions and be quickly forgotten. Blaise Pascal wrote that most things men occupy themselves with, the company of women notably, is a transparent cope to avoid thinking about death. Romance is undoubtedly the thing that can occupy your mind the best to avoid thinking about your future demise. Also see terror management theory.
Drugs are a better distraction. That's why they're illegal. If drugs were legal and mass produced and cheap, there would be a lot less people marrying and lusting after pussy, thus the system would lose a lot of revenue from future workers/slaves.

But yeah, with drugs being illegal, pussy is a good distraction.
 
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Ignas said:
It's over when you know that romance and love are also copes. The only reality is death waiting for every single of us
death is the ultimate final cope
 
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Yup.

There’s something bittersweet about death though. The knowledge that this awful torturous shitty world is finite and that our crappy terrible lives will end and with them so will all our suffering... I find it quite uplifting to think about.
 
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You know, it's weird. I feel like if I don't have at least 2 kids in my life then my life feels kind of like a failure. However... I wish that wasn't true. I wish that there were no expectations at all on me. I guess that means I wish I could be a nihilist, lol. But I'm not convinced that it's true. I'm also not convinced that there is no life after death.

So... yeah. Lots of unanswered questions I suppose.
 
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Drugs are a better distraction. That's why they're illegal. If drugs were legal and mass produced and cheap, there would be a lot less people marrying and lusting after pussy, thus the system would lose a lot of revenue from future workers/slaves.

But yeah, with drugs being illegal, pussy is a good distraction.
It's bullshit we can't use drugs without being condemned we need a damn distraction too...... When i say drugs im not talking stupid drugs, it's our inherited right to nature, period........ i use to dream of a life where i can enjoy what nature has to offer but simply can't anymore, too depressing, everyone refuses to change hell mode because of stupid ass beliefs limiting my freedom, preventing me from easing my suffering.

Amazes me people put up with such a bullshit system just because they have "love" we need more fucking hate!
 
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ChronicPaincel said:
It's bullshit we can't use drugs without being condemned we need a damn distraction too...... When i say drugs im not talking stupid drugs, it's our inherited right to nature, period........ i use to dream of a life where i can enjoy what nature has to offer but simply can't anymore, too depressing, everyone refuses to change hell mode because of stupid ass beliefs limiting my freedom, preventing me for easing my suffering.

Amazes me people put up with such a bullshit system just because they have "love" we need more fucking hate!
If there was more hate, if people wouldn't be content being slaves to the system, we'd have all the drugs we want, cheaply. But people fucking love being sheep, and they're willing to get fucked as long as they get to procreate and their little crotchspawn are safe.
 
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Yup.

There’s something bittersweet about death though. The knowledge that this awful torturous shitty world is finite and that our crappy terrible lives will end and with them so will all our suffering... I find it quite uplifting to think about.
I don't want to be the bringer of bad news, but an even worse afterlife could exist.
 
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If there was more hate, if people wouldn't be content being slaves to the system, we'd have all the drugs we want, cheaply. But people fucking love being sheep, and they're willing to get fucked as long as they get to procreate and their little crotchspawn are safe.
disgusts me beyond belief
 
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Fontaine said:
(2000 years of Christian saints, priests, abbots, monks, old maids and old bachelors)
I thought you were going to talk about this: religion has been abolished. The spiritual cope which helped those monks is gone. Less power for organized religion is a good thing (I would argue) but we lost the concept of anything being more than this mortal coil. No atheist has anything to look forward to after death or excluding life. Because we are permanently stuck here on earth now with no hope of salvation the idea of going without sex is that much more painful.
 
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Fontaine said:
I don't want to be the bringer of bad news, but an even worse afterlife could exist.
Everything is fine and dandy until you're born a pig in a slaughter house. believing there is for sure nothing after death is cope.

Science proves energy never dies, where does it go?
 
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MayorOfKekville said:
Yup.

There’s something bittersweet about death though. The knowledge that this awful torturous shitty world is finite and that our crappy terrible lives will end and with them so will all our suffering... I find it quite uplifting to think about.

The scary thing is, what if it doesn’t end? Whatever entity that created this hellish existence could very well perpetuate our torture after our physical body dies. I’m so pessimistic that it wouldn’t suprise me if I was right.
 
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The scary thing is, what if it doesn’t end? Whatever entity that created this hellish existence could very well perpetuate our torture after our physical body dies. I’m so pessimistic that it wouldn’t suprise me if I was right.
The older I get, the more I believe in a form of afterlife. Too many unsolved mysteries in the universe, pure materialism is dumb. The simulation hypothesis could be perfectly true.
 
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Fontaine said:
I don't want to be the bringer of bad news, but an even worse afterlife could exist.

Even if a worse afterlife does exist, death is at least one step closer to the eternal nothing, or whatever is on a higher plain of existence than life/death. As I've already experienced "life" here, I can't recall death. If life and death are a cycle of reincarnation, then there must be something beyond life and death. I'd have to imagine, somewhere, somehow, on some plane of existence, a more peaceful and enjoyable existence could be found.

My idea afterlife (if it were up to me) I'd be a ghost wandering in space and time to explore, learn, grow, evolve, so after several hundred or thousand years, humans would become like a species of ants to me.
 
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Angus13 said:
Even if a worse afterlife does exist, death is at least one step closer to the eternal nothing, or whatever is on a higher plain of existence than life/death. As I've already experienced "life" here, I can't recall death. If life and death are a cycle of reincarnation, then there must be something beyond life and death. I'd have to imagine, somewhere, somehow, on some plane of existence, a more peaceful and enjoyable existence could be found.

My idea afterlife (if it were up to me) I'd be a ghost wandering in space and time to explore, learn, grow, evolve, so after several hundred or thousand years, humans would become like a species of ants to me.

I hate to say it, but you’re coping hard right now.
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The older I get, the more I believe in a form of afterlife. Too many unsolved mysteries in the universe, pure materialism is dumb. The simulation hypothesis could be perfectly true.

An afterlife I can see. I’m not sold on simulation, but I did only hear about it this week.
 
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Fontaine said:
The older I get, the more I believe in a form of afterlife. Too many unsolved mysteries in the universe, pure materialism is dumb. The simulation hypothesis could be perfectly true.
There are 2 problems with this:
1. It just pushes the burden of explanation to an outside realm (I mean you have to stop somewhere. Suppose we have a 'developer', who created him?)
2. There is little reason to believe that smarter organisms exist, because once they become self aware, they stop reproducing. Antinatalism as the final epiphany of a wearisome game of life is the most likely explanation of the Fermi paradox.
But you are right, there is a lot we don't know. The idea of consciousness itself is quite intriguing. It's a knower which we can't know (because otherwise it would become known and just push the dilemma to another level aka who knows the knower, basically remaining without solution).
 
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TheIncelStaresBack said:
I hate to say it, but you’re coping hard right now..

How am I coping? All I stated was a bunch of hypothetical, theoretical ideas. At no point did I conclude any of that as a fact. Also if we lived in a universe which is totally indifferent to us, statistically if we had the capability to traverse time, space, and other realms of existence, there would likely be somewhere in some remote location of the multiverse we could find a comfortable life.
 
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How am I coping? All I stated was a bunch of hypothetical, theoretical ideas. At no point did I conclude any of that as a fact. Also if we lived in a universe which is totally indifferent to us, statistically if we had the capability to traverse time, space, and other realms of existence, there would likely be somewhere in some remote location of the multiverse we could find a comfortable life.

You’re assuming a lot (like the idea that we live in a universe indifferent to us, it could very well be a malicious universe). I should admit though, I am just doing what you are, but in the opposite direction (that is making baseless assumptions, of course).

But the reason I called cope on the original commet was because you asserted that it was certain that nothingness awaits us eventually. That’s wishful thinking, in my opinion.

No offense intended, btw, I was just saying
 
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TheIncelStaresBack said:
You’re assuming a lot (like the idea that we live in a universe indifferent to us, it could very well be a malicious universe). I should admit though, I am just doing what you are, but in the opposite direction (that is making baseless assumptions, of course).

But the reason I called cope on the original commet was because you asserted that it was certain that nothingness awaits us eventually. That’s wishful thinking, in my opinion.

No offense intended, btw, I was just saying

Well I dunno whatever to call it, whatever theoretically lies beyond the realms of life and death. I know the brahman's spoke about the nirvana "blissful nothingness" (i don't really buy into any religions but i do sometimes contemplate some concepts from various religions).
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Also, reproduction is the closest we can get to immortality in a sense.

Only a total fool would want to live forever in this Orwellian nightmare prison planet shit, much less bring more innocent people in here to either suffer, get corrupted, or both. The levels of evil and fucked up are off the charts on this shitty prison rock.
 
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Fontaine said:
I don't want to be the bringer of bad news, but an even worse afterlife could exist.

I don't believe there is anything after our death, so I'm not really affraid of non-existence - hey I did this billions of years!
But I still acknowledge there is possibility that after this life something even worse can wait for me. Probably not, but I can't say for sure. If there is something after death I believe our state of mind can play a role so I try to relax and just enjoy the ride
 
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Angus13 said:
Well I dunno whatever to call it, whatever theoretically lies beyond the realms of life and death. I know the brahman's spoke about the nirvana "blissful nothingness" (i don't really buy into any religions but i do sometimes contemplate some concepts from various religions).


Only a total fool would want to live forever in this Orwellian nightmare prison planet shit, much less bring more innocent people in here to either suffer, get corrupted, or both. The levels of evil and fucked up are off the charts on this shitty prison rock.

It does amaze me that people have children nowadays. I mean evolution made an orgasm the most intense feeling just to trick people into having kids, but now that we have contraception, abortion, ect.... like why?
 
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Fontaine said:
I don't want to be the bringer of bad news, but an even worse afterlife could exist.

Literally anything could exist. But it’s not logical to believe in them. We must assume that nothing exists.
 
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Fontaine said:
Has nothing to do with a "basic urge" being denied. There's solid evidence you can be a happy male without romance and sex. (2000 years of Christian saints, priests, abbots, monks, old maids and old bachelors).

It has something to do with the best distraction out there being denied. Distraction for what? The horror and hopelessness of the human condition. We are bodies condemned to decay, die in often terrible conditions and be quickly forgotten. Blaise Pascal wrote that most things men occupy themselves with, the company of women notably, is a transparent cope to avoid thinking about death. Romance is undoubtedly the thing that can occupy your mind the best to avoid thinking about your future demise. Also see terror management theory.

Extremely high IQ.

I know that being in a relationship/or sex isn't a guarantee to happiness, for the human condition in itself isn't conductive to happiness, but even feeling angst/sadness with companionship, validation, sex, a femoid who love to listen to you, press her body against you, caress you is still 10000 times better than being sad and lonely and rejected, it gets sublimated and diluted, like you said it's the best distraction.
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Also, reproduction is the closest we can get to immortality in a sense.

Nop. That's just cope. If you're dead there is no difference between you and someone who has 0 kids, you don't get to share some of the experiences or consciousness of your kid. That's just cope. Even creating work of arts that last the whole human history makes no difference, if experience ends at death, whether everybody remembers you and you have billions of kids or nobody remembers you and you were childless makes everybody 0 difference, since there is no "you" to notice, experience and enjoy this fame or this lineage.
 
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TheIncelStaresBack said:
It does amaze me that people have children nowadays. I mean evolution made an orgasm the most intense feeling just to trick people into having kids, but now that we have contraception, abortion, ect.... like why?

I think it's incredibly selfish to have kids in today's world.
 
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If there is something after death I believe our state of mind can play a role so I try to relax and just enjoy the ride
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Nope. Sex is just a need of the body and you need to feed the body.
 
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Human beings crave the absolute and the infinite. Everything else is cope, because contingent existence is limited, ephemeral, and ultimately pointless. And the only source of infinity outside of religion is... sexuality.

That's all there is to it. The atheist/materialist/evolutionist cels here have it completely wrong and will forever miss the mark.
 
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Angus13 said:
I think it's incredibly selfish to have kids in today's world.

Totally this.
 
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Angus13 said:
Only a total fool would want to live forever in this Orwellian nightmare prison planet shit, much less bring more innocent people in here to either suffer, get corrupted, or both. The levels of evil and fucked up are off the charts on this shitty prison rock.
Exactly. This also solves the Fermi Paradox aka 'why haven't we found life on other planets?'. Because any superior form of intelligence would arrive at this exact conclusion.