Whenever someone brings up the problems men face women say something like “I don’t care” or they try and victim blame by bringing up rape or something. Men’s rights activists talk about things that almost all men will go through in their lives, feminists will use stuff that 0.001% of women face and act like it proves anything. If you call them out on their bullshit and bring up one of the many ways men are more oppressed than women in this world they will say a argument riddled with logical fallacies: “who set that system up?”
1. Appeal to genetic fallacy
The point she is trying to make is an appeal to genetic fallacy. She is going to the supposed “root” of the problem But this logic doesn’t work. You can keep going further, who gave birth to those men? Who raised them?. The argument falls flat very quickly as the origin of everyone on this planet is a woman. The origin of the suffering men face is completely irrelevant to the suffering itself. It’s like if we said to Jews dying in the holocaust that they shouldn’t have fucked over the wiemer republic. The origin of a point/what caused it doesn’t necessarily affect the validity of the point especially because of the point I’m going to lay out in number 2. . It’s also failing to engage with the point, it’s not saying “yes men are suffering at the hands of the current system and I believe we can solve that by ___” it’s just a attempt to shut down the previous point. And it doesn’t work. I already outlined that it’s biased as the patriarchy isn’t the start of the universe, we can keep pushing back and the blame either lands on god or women (depending on your religion)
2. Flase equivalence fallacy
just because SOME men set up to benefit men doesn’t mean they made it to benefit men. The current system was made for the purpose of benefiting the top 1% of men and most men threwout history never benefited from it, noir did they influence it. The intention was never to benefit men, it was to benefit the elites (many of whom were men). But if I say the garden is the right temperature for growing oranges and oranges are a fruit then does that mean bananas will grow too because they are also fruit?. Just because someone is apart of one group doesn’t necessarily mean that they intend to benefit that group or have that groups interests at heart, especially considering that something like being a man doesn’t at all influence someone’s beliefs and is almost arbitrary in political beliefs.
3. Hasty generalisation fallacy
Do you think women never impacted history or politics in any way?. Do you think there wasn’t queens or sultanas? And do you think kings and leaders didn’t have wives, mothers and daughters?. The implication that women haven’t impacted the way the world works is entirely bullshit and not based in any historical context.
Now back to rape. When I hear women throw men’s issues aside it pisses me off. I struggle with getting rid of my empathy and sometimes I feel really bad for rape victims and then I remember women would never care if I killed myself or if I died in war or if I was tortured in war or if I was murdered or if I was homeless. They push all our issues under the rug and expect us to care about theirs? Fuck no. You get empathy when you give me empathy. You aren’t entitled to my empathy and compassion.
Misandrists can’t get this through there thick heads. I DONT OWE YOU ANYTHING. Just like you don’t owe me your body. I don’t owe you my mind. And as far as I’m concerned women are proving themselves to be non-empathetic the more right they get. Why would I want them getting more rights when they just misuse them?. Rape isn’t that bad Infact many women have a rape kink, which I suppose is no different to my femdom kink but the difference is that I don’t pretend to hate it like women do.
Rape is a way to keep women in line. I realise more and more that the too feelings that define humanity: love and compassion. Women are devoid of. Trying to make them love is a fool’s errand, they can’t love and never will. And there for they aren’t human. And things that aren’t human don’t deserve human rights. If a woman loved me then I wouldn’t believe any of this because they would have proven me wrong. But no woman has done that.
1. Appeal to genetic fallacy
The point she is trying to make is an appeal to genetic fallacy. She is going to the supposed “root” of the problem But this logic doesn’t work. You can keep going further, who gave birth to those men? Who raised them?. The argument falls flat very quickly as the origin of everyone on this planet is a woman. The origin of the suffering men face is completely irrelevant to the suffering itself. It’s like if we said to Jews dying in the holocaust that they shouldn’t have fucked over the wiemer republic. The origin of a point/what caused it doesn’t necessarily affect the validity of the point especially because of the point I’m going to lay out in number 2. . It’s also failing to engage with the point, it’s not saying “yes men are suffering at the hands of the current system and I believe we can solve that by ___” it’s just a attempt to shut down the previous point. And it doesn’t work. I already outlined that it’s biased as the patriarchy isn’t the start of the universe, we can keep pushing back and the blame either lands on god or women (depending on your religion)
2. Flase equivalence fallacy
just because SOME men set up to benefit men doesn’t mean they made it to benefit men. The current system was made for the purpose of benefiting the top 1% of men and most men threwout history never benefited from it, noir did they influence it. The intention was never to benefit men, it was to benefit the elites (many of whom were men). But if I say the garden is the right temperature for growing oranges and oranges are a fruit then does that mean bananas will grow too because they are also fruit?. Just because someone is apart of one group doesn’t necessarily mean that they intend to benefit that group or have that groups interests at heart, especially considering that something like being a man doesn’t at all influence someone’s beliefs and is almost arbitrary in political beliefs.
3. Hasty generalisation fallacy
Do you think women never impacted history or politics in any way?. Do you think there wasn’t queens or sultanas? And do you think kings and leaders didn’t have wives, mothers and daughters?. The implication that women haven’t impacted the way the world works is entirely bullshit and not based in any historical context.
Now back to rape. When I hear women throw men’s issues aside it pisses me off. I struggle with getting rid of my empathy and sometimes I feel really bad for rape victims and then I remember women would never care if I killed myself or if I died in war or if I was tortured in war or if I was murdered or if I was homeless. They push all our issues under the rug and expect us to care about theirs? Fuck no. You get empathy when you give me empathy. You aren’t entitled to my empathy and compassion.
Misandrists can’t get this through there thick heads. I DONT OWE YOU ANYTHING. Just like you don’t owe me your body. I don’t owe you my mind. And as far as I’m concerned women are proving themselves to be non-empathetic the more right they get. Why would I want them getting more rights when they just misuse them?. Rape isn’t that bad Infact many women have a rape kink, which I suppose is no different to my femdom kink but the difference is that I don’t pretend to hate it like women do.
Rape is a way to keep women in line. I realise more and more that the too feelings that define humanity: love and compassion. Women are devoid of. Trying to make them love is a fool’s errand, they can’t love and never will. And there for they aren’t human. And things that aren’t human don’t deserve human rights. If a woman loved me then I wouldn’t believe any of this because they would have proven me wrong. But no woman has done that.
