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The monster that is modern dating (women)

late20scel

late20scel

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I dont think people here truly understand what kind of monster they are trying to beat. People here are discussing whats the manlet cut off line or is face more important than height and is gymcelling worth it. Its all the same. You dont know what you are going against so let me demonstrate.

Imagine an average foid. One evening she makes a Tiktok video where she shakes her ass or tits to some music or whatever. Then she uploads a selfie to instagram and snapchat. Then she swipes some Chads on Tinder and 99% of men left. Then she goes to sleep

She wakes up the next day and checks her phone: 45k views on Tiktok and 18k likes, 15 000 likes on instagram and snapchat, 281 new messsages, new matches on Tinder, Bumble and Hinge (all tall Chads). And this happens every single morning.

If you are still having a convo about manlet cut off line or face>height or gymcelling or whatever, you do NOT understand what you are competing with. While you are asking whether 5'8" is enough, she's fucking a 6'5" Chad. When you ask is height more impotant than face, she's getting railed by a 6'2" Chad. When you discuss gymcelling, she's getting railed by a jacked Chad.

Still discussing manletism and gymcelling and height>face? Mental. Absolutely mental.
 
Most users here aren’t even subhuman. I’ve seen many of their faces in DMs, and most are just victims of this incredibly gynocentric and hypergamous society
 
Most users here aren’t even subhuman. I’ve seen many of their faces in DMs, and most are just victims of this incredibly gynocentric and hypergamous society
This.
Within a few decades chadelites are gonna be incrls too kek
 
Most users here aren’t even subhuman. I’ve seen many of their faces in DMs, and most are just victims of this incredibly gynocentric and hypergamous society
Yeah, I would bet only like a handful of guys here are truecels. This is just a consequence of modern tech and feminism, as you pointed out.
 
Yeah, I would bet only like a handful of guys here are truecels. This is just a consequence of modern tech and feminism, as you pointed out.
I saw one truecel so far. It’s over for him, even in a normal society. But 9/10 or more were not terrible looking. 3 of them were even above average facially and it blows my mind that they are here. I had to double check and ask one guy if his face he sent was not a troll because he was like 6/10 and had good skin without acne.

Seeing the fact that dudes like this really are here having relatively high post counts is crazy and indicates how bad it’s getting
 
That's a reason i wish i could feel no empathy for them because realistically no one should. Fuck this shit world.
 
I saw one truecel so far. It’s over for him, even in a normal society. But 9/10 or more were not terrible looking. 3 of them were even above average facially and it blows my mind that they are here. I had to double check and ask one guy if his face he sent was not a troll because he was like 6/10 and had good skin without acne.

Seeing the fact that dudes like this really are here having relatively high post counts is crazy and indicates how bad it’s getting
What about the whole non-nt think? But tbh even an autistic guy 50 years ago would have a much easier time getting a gf than today
 
I saw one truecel so far. It’s over for him, even in a normal society. But 9/10 or more were not terrible looking. 3 of them were even above average facially and it blows my mind that they are here. I had to double check and ask one guy if his face he sent was not a troll because he was like 6/10 and had good skin without acne.

Seeing the fact that dudes like this really are here having relatively high post counts is crazy and indicates how bad it’s getting
Yep, it's a sign we're on the verge of societal collapse.
 
What about the whole non-nt think? But tbh even an autistic guy 50 years ago would have a much easier time getting a gf than today
Non NT is still huge. But it matters more now than back then. Even for NT normies, it’s getting rough, and that’s not a good trend for societal stability. Too many people think this many men are gonna be alone and nothing is gonna happen from it. It’s not good to think that the young men supposed to compose the workforce are gonna be depressed and alone
 
What about the whole non-nt think? But tbh even an autistic guy 50 years ago would have a much easier time getting a gf than today
I'm not sure, autists must have been far less common back in the day, but if they looked good I don't think it would matter too much.
 
Yep, it's a sign we're on the verge of societal collapse.
Yeah. And too many overlook the struggle of many men now and don’t think it will affect society as a whole. It will when enough men get depressed and give up on life when they stop working, or begin to work the bare minimum, plus not help foids out much
 
I'm not sure, autists must have been far less common back in the day, but if they looked good I don't think it would matter too much.
Also, back then people had kids at a normal age. Too many women do it at 30 or even 49 now. My own mother was 40 when she conceived me, hence why I turned out a giga autist.
 
I saw one truecel so far. It’s over for him, even in a normal society. But 9/10 or more were not terrible looking. 3 of them were even above average facially and it blows my mind that they are here. I had to double check and ask one guy if his face he sent was not a troll because he was like 6/10 and had good skin without acne.

Seeing the fact that dudes like this really are here having relatively high post counts is crazy and indicates how bad it’s getting
Chads.is . It's getting so clear that there is unfairness in the whole dating scene, it's crazy how can normies and other incels in denial cannot fucking understand that the problem is real.
 
Yeah. And too many overlook the struggle of many men now and don’t think it will affect society as a whole. It will when enough men get depressed and give up on life when they stop working, or begin to work the bare minimum, plus not help foids out much
Exactly. You already hear foids bitching about men not protecting them in the streets.
Also, back then people had kids at a normal age. Too many women do it at 30 or even 49 now. My own mother was 40 when she conceived me, hence why I turned out a giga autist.
Yeah, people are supposed to be having kids in their 20's.
 
Yeah. And too many overlook the struggle of many men now and don’t think it will affect society as a whole. It will when enough men get depressed and give up on life when they stop working, or begin to work the bare minimum, plus not help foids out much
It already does. There are more and more incels, proplr have less sex, all this stupid redpill crap gets popupar. Only a matter of time till everyone is affected
 
foids have always been monsters, but they used to be kept in chains and that is y they seemed normal
 
Exactly. You already hear foids bitching about men not protecting them in the streets.
Kek. Women are so entitled to everything. The average foid cannot even imagine what its like to be a male normie
 
Chads.is . It's getting so clear that there is unfairness in the whole dating scene, it's crazy how can normies and other incels in denial cannot fucking understand that the problem is real.
Yep. The problem isn’t us for the most part, but society. Even the ugliest guy I saw here should be able to get with some ugly chick. None of the ones I saw were so deformed that they were an absolute abomination, even the one legit truecel.

But most is us are slightly below average to average, and shouldn’t struggle to get a gf.
 
Exactly. You already hear foids bitching about men not protecting them in the streets.
And to be honest, why would most men risk them to protect some random woman who likely won’t appreciate it anyway? I would indeed protect a gf if I had one and she was nice to me, but risking your life for some whore who wouldn’t look at you twice is a stretch.

Yeah, people are supposed to be having kids in their 20's.
And that’s how it always was in the past
 
Kek. Women are so entitled to everything. The average foid cannot even imagine what its like to be a male normie
She wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire, but we better risk our lives if she feels threatened.
 
It already does. There are more and more incels, proplr have less sex, all this stupid redpill crap gets popupar. Only a matter of time till everyone is affected
Yep. The fact this redpill shit went viral shows it’s not an imaginary issue and is in fact common. 63% of young men are single for god’s sake and only 30 some percent of women are. That’s absurd
 
Kek. Women are so entitled to everything. The average foid cannot even imagine what its like to be a male normie
Or a male truecel. I used to look way worse before puberty with a narrow jaw and being skinny. Got treated way worse than I do now. I’m a 4.5/10 now, but back then I was just a 3 probably, and every day in school felt so uneasy and rotten
 
I know this forum is about the world getting worse but I don't fucking care. Eventually all these 5/10s crying about how 'dating is harder' will be settled for and have sex when foid enters her 30s. That's better than my future. Whether it's impossible for them to have sex between 18 and 25 or if it's just hard, neither of those things bothers me at all. It seems like a petty issue and another group of people who are spoilt. yet all the replies to this thread are about muh entitlement.

i don't feel bad for normies struggling in dating and neither should you if you are ugly.
if it's getting worse for them, it's getting worse for us, and shit was already over. All this means is that as an ugly guy your chances are now literally in the negatives. When I see normies bitching about dating because they struggle to get laid, all I wonder is if they have before, or if they will in the future.

Yes, foids spend a long time rejecting them. But, then, eventually, they will have to settle and those they settle for will be those same average and NT guys who are complaining about somethign you will literally suffer for, for life. To me that is the point of this thread. It doesn't matter to prove muh height or muh face. Sure, an average guy has one or the other and currently isn't banging. But an ugly guy with neither is going to live until he ropes, or into his 40s, 50s, 60s, SEVENTIES, alone, because this is what people will adapt to doing, and they will no longer settle for you at a later age, ever. Do I feel bad for someone who has to a) wait or b) do basic shit like have a job and not be fat, in order to eventually be able to marry and have sex? Do I feel bad about an average looking guy who can a) go for ugly girls, repeatedly, until one says yes, b) geomaxx or c) try over and over until he finds a unicorn? No. This is a site for incels. If the bar raises, then the people that should be here should be more doomed by that, not accepted here in line with that bar in some foresaken waiting room for future benefactors of women finally settling. Fuck that

TLDR sure but who cares, 5/10 NT will fuck when they settle. And that's way better than my fate. If this upsets you because you are one, go find another site
 
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why you think i want a world reset through a ww3
i see normies panicking on it lol
 
I know this forum is about the world getting worse but I don't fucking care. Eventually all these 5/10s crying about how 'dating is harder' will be settled for and have sex when foid enters her 30s. That's better than my future. Whether it's impossible for them to have sex between 18 and 25 or if it's just hard, neither of those things bothers me at all. It seems like a petty issue and another group of people who are spoilt. yet all the replies to this thread are about muh entitlement.

i don't feel bad for normies struggling in dating and neither should you if you are ugly.
if it's getting worse for them, it's getting worse for us, and shit was already over. All this means is that as an ugly guy your chances are now literally in the negatives. When I see normies bitching about dating because they struggle to get laid, all I wonder is if they have before, or if they will in the future.

Yes, foids spend a long time rejecting them. But, then, eventually, they will have to settle and those they settle for will be those same average and NT guys who are complaining about somethign you will literally suffer for, for life. To me that is the point of this thread. It doesn't matter to prove muh height or muh face. Sure, an average guy has one or the other and currently isn't banging. But an ugly guy with neither is going to live until he ropes, or into his 40s, 50s, 60s, SEVENTIES, alone, because this is what people will adapt to doing, and they will no longer settle for you at a later age, ever. Do I feel bad for someone who has to a) wait or b) do basic shit like have a job and not be fat, in order to eventually be able to marry and have sex? Do I feel bad about an average looking guy who can a) go for ugly girls, repeatedly, until one says yes, b) geomaxx or c) try over and over until he finds a unicorn? No. This is a site for incels. If the bar raises, then the people that should be here should be more doomed by that, not accepted here in line with that bar in some foresaken waiting room for future benefactors of women finally settling. Fuck that

TLDR sure but who cares, 5/10 NT will fuck when they settle. And that's way better than my fate. If this upsets you because you are one, go find another site
don't know why I can't help but assume that you're also a fakecel laughing at us hopeless truecels
 
I know this forum is about the world getting worse but I don't fucking care. Eventually all these 5/10s crying about how 'dating is harder' will be settled for and have sex when foid enters her 30s. That's better than my future. Whether it's impossible for them to have sex between 18 and 25 or if it's just hard, neither of those things bothers me at all. It seems like a petty issue and another group of people who are spoilt. yet all the replies to this thread are about muh entitlement.

i don't feel bad for normies struggling in dating and neither should you if you are ugly.
if it's getting worse for them, it's getting worse for us, and shit was already over. All this means is that as an ugly guy your chances are now literally in the negatives. When I see normies bitching about dating because they struggle to get laid, all I wonder is if they have before, or if they will in the future.

Yes, foids spend a long time rejecting them. But, then, eventually, they will have to settle and those they settle for will be those same average and NT guys who are complaining about somethign you will literally suffer for, for life. To me that is the point of this thread. It doesn't matter to prove muh height or muh face. Sure, an average guy has one or the other and currently isn't banging. But an ugly guy with neither is going to live until he ropes, or into his 40s, 50s, 60s, SEVENTIES, alone, because this is what people will adapt to doing, and they will no longer settle for you at a later age, ever. Do I feel bad for someone who has to a) wait or b) do basic shit like have a job and not be fat, in order to eventually be able to marry and have sex? Do I feel bad about an average looking guy who can a) go for ugly girls, repeatedly, until one says yes, b) geomaxx or c) try over and over until he finds a unicorn? No. This is a site for incels. If the bar raises, then the people that should be here should be more doomed by that, not accepted here in line with that bar in some foresaken waiting room for future benefactors of women finally settling. Fuck that

TLDR sure but who cares, 5/10 NT will fuck when they settle. And that's way better than my fate. If this upsets you because you are one, go find another site
Yeah, I can't bring myself to spare empathy for someone who is a cut above me in terms of genetic privilege sulking here, no matter how trifling the gap is in the grand scheme of things in the dating world
 
Chads.is . It's getting so clear that there is unfairness in the whole dating scene, it's crazy how can normies and other incels in denial cannot fucking understand that the problem is real.
 
I dont think people here truly understand what kind of monster they are trying to beat. People here are discussing whats the manlet cut off line or is face more important than height and is gymcelling worth it. Its all the same. You dont know what you are going against so let me demonstrate.

Imagine an average foid. One evening she makes a Tiktok video where she shakes her ass or tits to some music or whatever. Then she uploads a selfie to instagram and snapchat. Then she swipes some Chads on Tinder and 99% of men left. Then she goes to sleep

She wakes up the next day and checks her phone: 45k views on Tiktok and 18k likes, 15 000 likes on instagram and snapchat, 281 new messsages, new matches on Tinder, Bumble and Hinge (all tall Chads). And this happens every single morning.

If you are still having a convo about manlet cut off line or face>height or gymcelling or whatever, you do NOT understand what you are competing with. While you are asking whether 5'8" is enough, she's fucking a 6'5" Chad. When you ask is height more impotant than face, she's getting railed by a 6'2" Chad. When you discuss gymcelling, she's getting railed by a jacked Chad.

Still discussing manletism and gymcelling and height>face? Mental. Absolutely mental.
Well said. More men need to recognize that the ratio isn't 10:1 or 100:1. It's 100,000 or 1,000,000 to one, with another zero every few years. Even Chad himself can't compare to the entire horde of Chads available for unlimited access to the modern woman at the swipe of a finger. The social lives of women are absolutely alien and unimaginable to us.

Even in 1958, a woman wrote this: "Manhattan was a river of men flowing past my door, and when I was thirsty, I drank."
 
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Well said. More men need to recognize that the ratio isn't 10:1 or 100:1. It's 100,000 or 1,000,000 to one, with another zero every few years. Even Chad himself can't compare to the entire horde of Chads available for unlimited access to the modern woman at the swipe of a finger. The social lives of women are absolutely alien and unimaginable to us.

Even in 1958, a woman wrote this: "Manhattan was a river of men flowing past my door, and when I was thirsty, I drank."
Thats why any attempt to ascend is a bad joke. Women have so much urgency in their phones they cant even imagine settling down for a normie, not even a htn.
The odds are so against you that it's difficult to put it in words. Average women can apply fakeup and fake eyelashes and become an 8/10. Then they shake their ass or tits on Tiktok and they get validation and dating opportunities it's not even funny. You have to mog every other guy to have a chance. And even then, like, what? She has other options she doesn't need to take you seriously. Even if you take her on a dinner date and pay everything, you are still competing against all other men who message her. It's brutal, dude.
 
Same, here. That is one more reason amongst the thousands already existing to believe I'm ASD
Yeah, women should never have kids so old. It’s a recipe for disaster
 
Most users here aren’t even subhuman. I’ve seen many of their faces in DMs, and most are just victims of this incredibly gynocentric and hypergamous society
I just feel sad for those incels in denial:cryfeels::cryfeels::cryfeels:
 
Thats why any attempt to ascend is a bad joke. Women have so much urgency in their phones they cant even imagine settling down for a normie, not even a htn.
The odds are so against you that it's difficult to put it in words. Average women can apply fakeup and fake eyelashes and become an 8/10. Then they shake their ass or tits on Tiktok and they get validation and dating opportunities it's not even funny. You have to mog every other guy to have a chance. And even then, like, what? She has other options she doesn't need to take you seriously. Even if you take her on a dinner date and pay everything, you are still competing against all other men who message her. It's brutal, dude.
Exactly, a dinner date is nothing. Women have rosters of dinner-men that are miles long.

Most ordinary men never attain an attractive woman their whole lives, and only partner with unattractive women if anything. Because any attractive woman is fit for an elite man with a multi-dimensionally high ranking of looks and money and status, the last being particularly weighty — the only men worth considering are at least minor celebrities, as celebrity is the only thing, the very definition in fact, of what distinguishes one man from a million.

In reverse, women do not rank on money or status, as they do not share these things with their men. Mackenzie Bezos and Priscilla Chan and Melinda Gates are given the same status (and spending power) as their husbands; Travis Kelce is beloved as a football-man, but is not Taylor Swift's equal in any way.

If this arrangement generates an excess of attractive women chasing a paucity of elite men, it's a direct consequence of women's hate for ordinary men. Assortative mating is one hell for women, and hypergamy is another hell for women: they are their own inability to be happy. It's mathematically impossible for every woman to monopolize a man better than every other woman's man.
 
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Thread seems more applicable to .org cause I already knew I wouldn´t make it.
Im past the lookism stuff
 

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