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the jews made you think asperger's and autism are the same but they are not

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so basicallt the nazi Hans Asperger created this term called "autistic psychopathy" which referred to the children to who we used to diagnose with asperger's syndrome and are now referred as autistic (level 1 autism or high functioning autism), many people believe that he wanted to kill all the kids with autism but that wrong, he believed the kids with autistic psychopathy were superior to normal kids in some aspects, the nazis only wanted to kill the kids with level 2 autism, which is an autism type that is very different to autistic psychopathy (people like chis chan have autism level 2, search it on youtube), the nazis actually believed the children with autistic psychopathy should not be killed:
these are quotes from the book Asperger’s Children: The Origins of Autism in Nazi Vienna
here is a pdf of the book:

"Asperger’s definition of autistic psychopathy reflected his admiration of Fritz’s and Harro’s family backgrounds. He asserted, as in Fritz’s case, “Many of the fathers of our autistic children occupy high positions.” As in Harro’s case, “if one happens to find a manual worker among them, then it is probably someone who has missed his vocation.” To Asperger, autistic psychopathy might, in fact, be a result of higher-class breeding. He held, “In many cases the ancestors of these children have been intellectuals for several generations,” and are even from “important artistic and scholarly families.” In autistic youths, Asperger claimed, “sometimes it seems as if of [their ancestors’] former grandeur only the eccentricity remains.” Given these descriptions, one wonders if what was called “eccentricity” in an upperclass child might be deemed a character failing or mental illness in workingclass children such as Elfriede or Margarete." (page 137)

"For Asperger, autistic psychopathy was abstract thinking par excellence. “Abstraction is so highly developed that the relationship to the concrete, to objects and to people has largely been lost" It was boys who had the capability of higher-order thinking. Boys, Asperger contended, had “a gift for logical ability, abstraction, precise thinking and formulating, and for independent scientific investigation,” while girls were suited “for the concrete and the practical, and for tidy, methodical work.” (page 148)

"But while the girls displayed similar behaviors as Fritz and Harro, Asperger’s clinic interpreted only the boys’ idiosyncrasies as signs of superior intelligence. Atypical speech, for example, signaled exceptional capabilities in what Asperger called “favorable cases” of autistic psychopathy. Autistic children had “a special creative attitude towards language,” Asperger wrote. They could “express their own original experience in a linguistically original form.” Though “often quite abstruse,” Asperger held that autistic children’s “newly formed or partially restructured expressions” showed unique insight. When Asperger asked Fritz on his intelligence test the difference between a fly and a butterfly, he was delighted to hear Fritz say: “The butterfly is snowed, snowed with snow,” and “He is red and blue, and the fly is brown and black,’ ” as these seemed refreshingly creative answers. Asperger also praised how Harro “coined each word to fit the moment.” When asked the difference between a stove and an oven, Harro said that “the stove is what one has in the room as a firebringer.” Such use of “unusual words,” Asperger declared, was an “example of autistic introspection.” (page 149)

"Asperger deemed the boys’ refinement genuin. He celebrated how six-yearold Fritz talked ‘like an adult,’ ” and how one could talk to eight-year-old Harro “as to an adult.” Even Ernst, who Asperger believed was more disabled, spoke “like an adult.” The boys also demonstrated autistic intelligence by talking at length about subjects of their own interest, without much regard for the conversational partner. Asperger wrote of Fritz that “Only rarely was what he said in answer to a question,” and that Harro “did not respond to questions but let his talk run single-mindedly along his own tracks.” Ernst, too, talked “regardless of the questions he was being asked,” but his “ ‘asides’ were quite remarkable.” The Curative Education Clinic judged Margarete’s digressive speaking, however, an inadequacy: “She gives roundabout, lengthy accounts” and “never comes to the end.” Rather than a sign of intelligence, this showed “her uncritical, uncontrolled way of thinking.” Margarete was flighty—while the boys showed acuity. That Asperger paid so much attention to the boys’ intelligence is all the more notable given how difficult it was to measure. Despite resistance from the boys, Asperger invested a great deal of effort into proving their capabilities. “Testing was extremely difficult to carry out” with Fritz, for example. He “constantly jumped up or smacked the experimenter on the hand,” and “would repeatedly drop himself from chair to floor and then enjoy being firmly placed back in his chair again.” When presented with the Lazar system of testing that was traditional at the clinic, Fritz refused to imitate rhythms beaten out; he balked at math calculation problems. When asked about the difference between a tree and a bush, he answered only “there is a difference.” When asked the difference between a cow and calf, he returned, “lammerlammerlammer. . . .” Yet Asperger was willing to impute skills to Fritz that he did not demonstrate in the testing. When Fritz repeated up to six digits from memory, Asperger remarked, “One was left with a strong impression that he could go further, except that he just did not feel like it.” Asperger based his claim that Fritz had “extraordinary calculating ability” on discussions with the boy’s parents and, later, individualized instruction in the ward. Fritz’s skills would not have been revealed without the intensive efforts of Asperger and his colleagues to uncover it. Testing Harro was just as difficult as testing Fritz, Asperger held. “A lot of energy went into simply making him do the tasks,” since Harro would “shut off completely when a question did not interest him.” But Asperger, as with Fritz, gave the boy the benefit of the doubt. He deemed Harro’s unusual answers evidence of unusual intelligence. On the difference between a lake and a river, Harro explained: “Well, the lake, it doesn’t move from its spot, and it can never be as long and never have that many branches, and it always has an end" (page 149)

"Asperger also proclaimed that autistic boys had unique powers of perception: a “special clear-sightedness” that was “seen only in them,” with special capabilities to “engage in a particular kind of introspection and to be a judge of character.” He maintained that their “psychopathic clarity of vision” was uncanny, almost miraculous. One “distinctive trait” that Asperger highlighted was autistic boys’ “rare maturity of taste in art.” Whereas “normal children” gravitate toward the “pretty picture, with kitschy rose pink and sky blue,” he claimed, autistic children “may have a special understanding of works of art which are difficult even for many adults.” In Asperger’s opinion, they were especially good at “Romanesque sculpture or paintings by Rembrandt.” Asperger gave no evidence for his claims of “special clear-sightedness” in autistic psychopathy. The right or wrongness of his claims notwithstanding, it is doubtful his clinic gave either Elfriede or Margarete an opportunity to judge either Rembrandt paintings or Romanesque sculptures." (page 151)

"in the conclusion to his treatise, Asperger argued that children with autistic psychopathy could be valuable to society. “Autistic people have their place in the organism of the social community,” he declared, and “they fulfill their role well, perhaps better than anyone else could.” He also defended children with developmental differences in general, contending that “Abnormal personalities can be capable of development and adjustment,” and that “Possibilities of social integration which one would never have dreamt of arise in the course of development.” (page 153)

"Asperger outlined this in the bluntest terms, charging that people with autistic psychopathy spanned “from the highly original genius, through the weird eccentric who lives in a world of his own and achieves very little, down to the most severe contact-disturbed, automaton-like mentally retarded individual.” Essentially, autistic psychopathy had both positive and negative traits, and one could add up a ledger to determine a child’s value. Asperger held that youths on the “most favorable” end of his “range” might be superior to “normal children.” As adults, they would “perform with such outstanding success that one may even conclude that only such people are capable of certain achievements.” This was “usually in highly specialised academic professions, often in very high positions” such as “mathematicians, technologists, industrial chemists and high-ranking civil servants.” Asperger was stressing traits that were valuable to the Nazi state, and this may have been a strategic attempt to defend these children from persecution. But he also attributed some traits to autistic children—such as artistic taste in Rembrandt paintings and Romanesque sculpture—which were rather unusual to spotlight if he did not believe in them." (page 154)

hitler also was an autistic psychopath and had asperger's like me and all the other users on this forum:

i will be adding more information to this thread when i'm done researching, there is more information in that book but i'm just reading some parts that had the words "autistic psychopath" through the word finder, i will see if i find more but i will miss many things
 
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the jews will tell you to go to go see a therapist or that you need jewpills because you have a mental disorder. DON'T TAKE THEM
 
the jews will tell you to go to go see a therapist or that you need jewpills because you have a mental disorder. DON'T TAKE THEM
in britbongia they dont give jewpills for aspergers, which is fine, but they say its not a mental illness or handicap because some people with apsergers are succussful :soy: (ie foids and low functioning aspie fags)
 
good looks+non NT=shy guy
subhumanity+non NT=creep
 
"Perhaps for Asperger personally, something was indeed at stake. In his articles on autistic psychopathy, Asperger sought to distinguish his diagnosis from Kanner’s better-known idea of “early infantile autism.” Asperger insisted that the children he studied were superior to those Kanner described. Although Asperger did allow that the two groups of children had certain traits in common, namely atypical social contact, his articles repeated that “Kanner’s early infantile autism is a near psychotic or even a psychotic state,” whereas “Asperger’s typical cases are very intelligent children with extraordinary originality of thought and spontaneity of activity.” (page 211)

"While Asperger did not draw on additional empirical research in these articles, he did make some small qualifications to his diagnosis. He claimed that autistic psychopathy was more pronounced in cities than in the countryside because individuals had greater opportunities to develop their individual interests, with more resources for their “cultural and artistic achievements,” and could thus “accomplish outstanding things for which their character predestines them.” (page 212)

now that i'm done, i'm gonna research if the jews are evil or just have too much empathy and are not evil
 
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extremely high IQ truths in your posts
 
Initial thoughts: I wonder if the motivation to eradicate "Asperger's Syndrome" as a diagnosis, and "merge" it into the "autism spectrum" had anything to do with the former condition's origins. It just sounds like the classic Orwellian re-writing of history, in order to be less "offensive."

And from reading the first paragraph so far, I can say I definitely don't have an upper class background; both my grandfathers were blue collar working class men.
 
Initial thoughts: I wonder if the motivation to eradicate "Asperger's Syndrome" as a diagnosis, and "merge" it into the "autism spectrum" had anything to do with the former condition's origins. It just sounds like the classic Orwellian re-writing of history, in order to be less "offensive."

And from reading the first paragraph so far, I can say I definitely don't have an upper class background; both my grandfathers were blue collar working class men.
maybe they weren't able to follow their interests like asperger suggests
 
in britbongia they dont give jewpills for aspergers, which is fine, but they say its not a mental illness or handicap because some people with apsergers are succussful :soy: (ie foids and low functioning aspie fags)
I'm always sick and tired of that kind of shit. I've fared far worse in life, socially, career-wise, and many other aspects, than all of the other so-called "autistics" I've bumped into during my 34 years here, but people assume that my struggling must be self-inflicted because none of them are. It's gaslighting for those of us who are truly afflicted by a disease of the brain, and not just running around with some quirk masquerading as a "mental illness." Kinda like that stupid ADHD fad, tbh.
 
maybe they weren't able to follow their interests like asperger suggests
Can't rightly say, as I don't know what their interests were.
 
I definitely see a lot of myself in what Asperger found in his male patients. I am also interested, though not surprised, that he found the females to be "mundane." I suppose a mental disorder such as this can't have much impact on an animal that already doesn't have much sentience or thought in the first place.

I can definitely relate to my brain shutting off when it comes to anything I'm not interested in, or maybe would be interested in at another point in time, but just can't be arsed to give a fuck at the moment it comes up. I can see this in the thousands of bookmarks I keep on my web browser, certainly: I'm always spotting interesting videos on the youtube homepage that I bookmark to view later, but I often don't have the energy or interest to watch it out at that moment in time. I can come back to those videos anywhere between 3 days to 3 years to finally watch them, and the ones I watch regularly are a very narrow niche of a few channels. And this behavior certainly extends well beyond just youtube, as well; I'm currently struggling to finish my schooling, because I'm feeling the very same thing for the topic of my associate's program. I should be doing my homework right now, but instead I was playing Rayman 2, and am now reading about Aspergers and his study of "superior" children.

To be honest, I never really felt all that superior, though I suppose it could have been the negative reinforcement from my peers, and the adults in my life. I was constantly being berated, belittled, bullied, and pushed off my chosen course (sometimes physically), to the point where no matter how much I wanted to fight back, mentally, verbally, physically, I just couldn't anymore. They so thoroughly made me feel inferior so as to completely and utterly crush my spirit, and stomp out every last bit of fight I had in me at a young age. I became passive and submissive from the treatment I received growing up, and although I strive to undo this damage in my adulthood, it is daunting work undoing the damage that has been dealt, and made all the more difficult by the fact that as I age, I can very clearly feel my brain losing its "elasticity," so to speak. It becomes harder to learn new things, and conversely, becomes more difficult to unlearn the old.

through the weird eccentric who lives in a world of his own and achieves very little,
This is what impacted me the most though, as this is where I feel like I fall in what has been provided. This is the reason why I so often describe myself as a "middle-functioning" autist, despite the fact that the ((("professionals"))) haven't classed anything between high-functioning and low-functioning, other than to specify there is a broad, yet vague, spectrum that individuals can fall under. My interests are very niche and personal, and nothing that lends itself to being financially lucrative. Indeed, I produce nothing of value to the soyciety that has firmly stamped out whatever creativity I might possibly have had from a very young age. Thus, as I do not provide tangible value to this society, they cast me aside as rubbish, despite the fact I could competently perform in my chosen field of work (software) certainly far better than at least 50% of the humans currently working in it, and that's counting the foids. It's a field that's been flooded with normans and foids who would never have been seen in front of a computer writing code, if it didn't turn out to be such a powerfully lucrative job field, and as such, I feel like trying to stand out amongst the competition is far more of a popularity and attraction contest than anything else, and this onus is placed upon me precisely for being an optically offensive sperg.

My experiences have revealed to me a startling discovery, that my so-called "disability" may not, in fact, be so inhibiting, as the treatment I have received the whole duration of my life from others, who would look down on me for having been built differently than them. That, despite being told otherwise constantly, my problems do not come from within, but rather, come from without: from other people. It is why I wish for male autistic supremacy, so that neurotypicals can be put in their place like the animals they are, and we can ascend to our rightful positions of power and dignity in this world that has treated us like common gutter trash. But for so long as they outnumber us, and for so long as so many of our own kind are brainwashed into blue-pilled lies, leftist lies of "acceptance" and other garbage, jewish lies, marching in line, in tune, to the falsehoods being fed to us about "working hard" enough to get our jobs or our gfs or whatever "someday," while never giving a clear indication of when that day is supposed to arrive for obvious reasons, meanwhile the normgroids and foids are skating through life and ascending to higher positions in short time and with little effort, we'll never be able to overthrow our oppressors and take what is rightfully ours.
 
I definitely see a lot of myself in what Asperger found in his male patients. I am also interested, though not surprised, that he found the females to be "mundane." I suppose a mental disorder such as this can't have much impact on an animal that already doesn't have much sentience or thought in the first place.

I can definitely relate to my brain shutting off when it comes to anything I'm not interested in, or maybe would be interested in at another point in time, but just can't be arsed to give a fuck at the moment it comes up. I can see this in the thousands of bookmarks I keep on my web browser, certainly: I'm always spotting interesting videos on the youtube homepage that I bookmark to view later, but I often don't have the energy or interest to watch it out at that moment in time. I can come back to those videos anywhere between 3 days to 3 years to finally watch them, and the ones I watch regularly are a very narrow niche of a few channels. And this behavior certainly extends well beyond just youtube, as well; I'm currently struggling to finish my schooling, because I'm feeling the very same thing for the topic of my associate's program. I should be doing my homework right now, but instead I was playing Rayman 2, and am now reading about Aspergers and his study of "superior" children.

To be honest, I never really felt all that superior, though I suppose it could have been the negative reinforcement from my peers, and the adults in my life. I was constantly being berated, belittled, bullied, and pushed off my chosen course (sometimes physically), to the point where no matter how much I wanted to fight back, mentally, verbally, physically, I just couldn't anymore. They so thoroughly made me feel inferior so as to completely and utterly crush my spirit, and stomp out every last bit of fight I had in me at a young age. I became passive and submissive from the treatment I received growing up, and although I strive to undo this damage in my adulthood, it is daunting work undoing the damage that has been dealt, and made all the more difficult by the fact that as I age, I can very clearly feel my brain losing its "elasticity," so to speak. It becomes harder to learn new things, and conversely, becomes more difficult to unlearn the old.


This is what impacted me the most though, as this is where I feel like I fall in what has been provided. This is the reason why I so often describe myself as a "middle-functioning" autist, despite the fact that the ((("professionals"))) haven't classed anything between high-functioning and low-functioning, other than to specify there is a broad, yet vague, spectrum that individuals can fall under. My interests are very niche and personal, and nothing that lends itself to being financially lucrative. Indeed, I produce nothing of value to the soyciety that has firmly stamped out whatever creativity I might possibly have had from a very young age. Thus, as I do not provide tangible value to this society, they cast me aside as rubbish, despite the fact I could competently perform in my chosen field of work (software) certainly far better than at least 50% of the humans currently working in it, and that's counting the foids. It's a field that's been flooded with normans and foids who would never have been seen in front of a computer writing code, if it didn't turn out to be such a powerfully lucrative job field, and as such, I feel like trying to stand out amongst the competition is far more of a popularity and attraction contest than anything else, and this onus is placed upon me precisely for being an optically offensive sperg.

My experiences have revealed to me a startling discovery, that my so-called "disability" may not, in fact, be so inhibiting, as the treatment I have received the whole duration of my life from others, who would look down on me for having been built differently than them. That, despite being told otherwise constantly, my problems do not come from within, but rather, come from without: from other people. It is why I wish for male autistic supremacy, so that neurotypicals can be put in their place like the animals they are, and we can ascend to our rightful positions of power and dignity in this world that has treated us like common gutter trash. But for so long as they outnumber us, and for so long as so many of our own kind are brainwashed into blue-pilled lies, leftist lies of "acceptance" and other garbage, jewish lies, marching in line, in tune, to the falsehoods being fed to us about "working hard" enough to get our jobs or our gfs or whatever "someday," while never giving a clear indication of when that day is supposed to arrive for obvious reasons, meanwhile the normgroids and foids are skating through life and ascending to higher positions in short time and with little effort, we'll never be able to overthrow our oppressors and take what is rightfully ours.
he said that he only saw autistic psychopathy in men, so he theorized that females couldn't have asperger's because it was a characteristic of an extremely masculine brain
 
Initial thoughts: I wonder if the motivation to eradicate "Asperger's Syndrome" as a diagnosis, and "merge" it into the "autism spectrum" had anything to do with the former condition's origins. It just sounds like the classic Orwellian re-writing of history, in order to be less "offensive."

And from reading the first paragraph so far, I can say I definitely don't have an upper class background; both my grandfathers were blue collar working class men.
he probably says that because the fathers of the children that had aspeger's must have been old, people who are rich or live in a country with a very good economy, have very few children and they have them at an older age, autism is caused by having children at an older age
 
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he probably says that because the fathers of the children that had aspeger's must have been old, people who are rich or live in a country with a very good economy, have very few children and they have them at an older age, autism is caused by having children at an older age
I've always found that to be a weird assertion, because my parents were young when they had me, and I'm the oldest child of three, and neither of my brothers are afflicted in any way with Asperger's Syndrome, nor as far as any of us can tell, autism.

Then again, my case has never been typical, even within the world of ASD. Standing out amongst other autists in group therapy sessions, my mother sending me from quack therapist to quack therapist all throughout my childhood, to having counselors who were dealing with ASD students on the regular breaking down and losing their shit, and sometimes yelling at me in their school offices, just from dealing with me, in particular. I've never fit perfectly into any mold.
 
he said that he only saw autistic psychopathy in men, so he theorized that females couldn't have asperger's because it was a characteristic of an extremely masculine brain
It's a shame that masculinity was wasted on my brain, instead of going to more important things, like broad shoulders, or a chiseled jawline, or a deep voice, or at least one that doesn't sound so nasally and soft.
 
I've always found that to be a weird assertion, because my parents were young when they had me, and I'm the oldest child of three, and neither of my brothers are afflicted in any way with Asperger's Syndrome, nor as far as any of us can tell, autism.

Then again, my case has never been typical, even within the world of ASD. Standing out amongst other autists in group therapy sessions, my mother sending me from quack therapist to quack therapist all throughout my childhood, to having counselors who were dealing with ASD students on the regular breaking down and losing their shit, and sometimes yelling at me in their school offices, just from dealing with me, in particular. I've never fit perfectly into any mold.
my parents had me in their early 30s, maybe asperger's is related to being in a country with a better economy (or being rich yourself), and normal autism is related to having children at an older age
 
It's a shame that masculinity was wasted on my brain, instead of going to more important things, like broad shoulders, or a chiseled jawline, or a deep voice, or at least one that doesn't sound so nasally and soft.
he also said that they were less masculine in their body (like having a weaker body), let me search for the quote
 
my parents had me in their early 30s, maybe asperger's is related to being in a country with a better economy (or being rich yourself), and normal autism is related to having children at an older age
Maybe. I was never terribly concerned with the root cause of it, though, and more concerned about how to live with it.
 
he also said that they were less masculine in their body (like having a weaker body), let me search for the quote
Sounds about right, to be honest.
 
It's a shame that masculinity was wasted on my brain, instead of going to more important things, like broad shoulders, or a chiseled jawline, or a deep voice, or at least one that doesn't sound so nasally and soft.
he also said that they were less masculine in their body (like having a weaker body), let me search for the quote
"Asperger likewise claimed that while autistic children had a range of different body types and physical abilities, they all fell short of contemporary masculine physical ideals in some way. Harro was shorter than average, and “his arms and legs looked as if they were too short for his body.” His “posture too was odd,” as he “stood broadly, arms held away from the body, as a portly gentleman or a boxer might do.” Fritz was of “delicate build” and his veins were visible beneath his skin, which was “of yellowish-grey pallor.” The boy’s “musculature was weakly developed,” Asperger related, and his “posture was slouched, his shoulders slumped, with the shoulder blades protruding.” In his short description of Hellmuth, Asperger wrote that the boy’s “appearance was grotesque.” He reportedly “had noticeably increased salivation, and when he talked one could hear the saliva bubbling in his mouth.” He was also “grotesquely fat.” Since age eleven, Hellmuth had “distinctly formed ‘breasts and hips’ ” as well as “knock knees and flat feet,” and “when one shook his hand, it seemed as if it had no bones and were made of rubber.” Asperger wrote that some children’s deviations from the norm could appear farcical. Their “conduct, manner of speech and, not least, often grotesque demeanour cries out to be ridiculed,” he said. Harro was supposedly “an object of ridicule” and “directly provoked teasing” from other children for his “strange, slightly funny dignity” and “strange and comical behaviour.” Asperger noted “motor clumsiness” in “almost all autistic individuals.” Fritz and Harro, as well as Ernst and Hellmuth, were all “very clumsy” and poor athletes, unable to integrate with group sports. Harro’s “movements would be ugly and angular” and he was certainly “not a skilled fighter.” Asperger asserted that “autistic children also do not have a proper attitude towards their own bodies.” Itemizing the boys’ failures of grooming, he generalized that autistic children lacked “cleanliness and physical care. Even as adults they may be seen to walk about unkempt and unwashed.” Asperger’s idea of autistic intelligence, which was central to the diagnosis, arrived at another nondefinition. He admitted it was hard to generalize about autistic children since “the findings can be contradictory and different testers can come to different intelligence estimates.” Asperger’s core idea of autistic psychopathy—finding social interactions difficult to navigate—was also nebulous. It meant, basically, not fitting in: “In early childhood there are the difficulties in learning simple practical skills and in social adaptation. These difficulties arise out of the same disturbance which at school age cause learning and conduct problems, in adolescence job and performance problems, and in adulthood social and marital conflicts.” (page 152)
 
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"Asperger likewise claimed that while autistic children had a range of different body types and physical abilities, they all fell short of contemporary masculine physical ideals in some way. Harro was shorter than average, and “his arms and legs looked as if they were too short for his body.” His “posture too was odd,” as he “stood broadly, arms held away from the body, as a portly gentleman or a boxer might do.” Fritz was of “delicate build” and his veins were visible beneath his skin, which was “of yellowish-grey pallor.” The boy’s “musculature was weakly developed,” Asperger related, and his “posture was slouched, his shoulders slumped, with the shoulder blades protruding.” In his short description of Hellmuth, Asperger wrote that the boy’s “appearance was grotesque.” He reportedly “had noticeably increased salivation, and when he talked one could hear the saliva bubbling in his mouth.” He was also “grotesquely fat.” Since age eleven, Hellmuth had “distinctly formed ‘breasts and hips’ ” as well as “knock knees and flat feet,” and “when one shook his hand, it seemed as if it had no bones and were made of rubber.” Asperger wrote that some children’s deviations from the norm could appear farcical. Their “conduct, manner of speech and, not least, often grotesque demeanour cries out to be ridiculed,” he said. Harro was supposedly “an object of ridicule” and “directly provoked teasing” from other children for his “strange, slightly funny dignity” and “strange and comical behaviour.” Asperger noted “motor clumsiness” in “almost all autistic individuals.” Fritz and Harro, as well as Ernst and Hellmuth, were all “very clumsy” and poor athletes, unable to integrate with group sports. Harro’s “movements would be ugly and angular” and he was certainly “not a skilled fighter.” Asperger asserted that “autistic children also do not have a proper attitude towards their own bodies.” Itemizing the boys’ failures of grooming, he generalized that autistic children lacked “cleanliness and physical care. Even as adults they may be seen to walk about unkempt and unwashed.” Asperger’s idea of autistic intelligence, which was central to the diagnosis, arrived at another nondefinition. He admitted it was hard to generalize about autistic children since “the findings can be contradictory and different testers can come to different intelligence estimates.” Asperger’s core idea of autistic psychopathy—finding social interactions difficult to navigate—was also nebulous. It meant, basically, not fitting in: “In early childhood there are the difficulties in learning simple practical skills and in social adaptation. These difficulties arise out of the same disturbance which at school age cause learning and conduct problems, in adolescence job and performance problems, and in adulthood social and marital conflicts.” (page 152)
Yeah, apart from what I've already mentioned, I do share some of these traits, as well, such as the slouching posture and slumped shoulders, which I've tried correcting on numerous occasions, only to be met with abject and consistent failure. And I never thought of it before now, but I do salivate, though not to the extreme described above; however, sometimes an uncontrollable burst of saliva will launch from my mouth, I believe from under my tongue, as it were, seemingly at random. It's not a daily occurrence, thankfully, but is annoying to clean up when I'm facing something such as my computer monitor or a book when it does happen.

I can also relate to the motor clumsiness and flat-footedness. I have abnormally large feet for which I sometimes need to custom order footwear to compensate. And I do walk about unkempt, though not unwashed.
 
I've never found my gift, my true calling that I excel at above and beyond all others, that I could make into a professional career. I don't really have any talents; the only thing I engaged in during my childhood was playing video games, and I'm not even good at that.
 
Some things I have noticed with myself are my:
1) total immunity to propaganda;
2) ability to speak before large groups of people;
3) my terrible nasal voice that could save up on Zyklon B.

Imagine being so autistic, you don't get free euthanasia in Hitlerian Germany lul.
 
the jews will tell you to go to go see a therapist or that you need jewpills because you have a mental disorder. DON'T TAKE THEM
There’s no pill for autists.
 
There’s no pill for autists.
there are for anxiety and to concentrate in class (because people with level 1 autism have both), but you shouldn't take them because they are taking away your potential
 
Ill sat at least 80% of mental health issues are a fake jew pharmacy and therapist scam
 
Dnr but I'm literally an autistic psychopath.
 
so basicallt the nazi Hans Asperger created this term called "autistic psychopathy" which referred to the children to who we used to diagnose with asperger's syndrome and are now referred as autistic (level 1 autism or high functioning autism), many people believe that he wanted to kill all the kids with autism but that wrong, he believed the kids with autistic psychopathy were superior to normal kids in some aspects, the nazis only wanted to kill the kids with level 2 autism, which is an autism type that is very different to autistic psychopathy (people like chis chan have autism level 2, search it on youtube), the nazis actually believed the children with autistic psychopathy should not be killed:
these are quotes from the book Asperger’s Children: The Origins of Autism in Nazi Vienna
here is a pdf of the book:

"Asperger’s definition of autistic psychopathy reflected his admiration of Fritz’s and Harro’s family backgrounds. He asserted, as in Fritz’s case, “Many of the fathers of our autistic children occupy high positions.” As in Harro’s case, “if one happens to find a manual worker among them, then it is probably someone who has missed his vocation.” To Asperger, autistic psychopathy might, in fact, be a result of higher-class breeding. He held, “In many cases the ancestors of these children have been intellectuals for several generations,” and are even from “important artistic and scholarly families.” In autistic youths, Asperger claimed, “sometimes it seems as if of [their ancestors’] former grandeur only the eccentricity remains.” Given these descriptions, one wonders if what was called “eccentricity” in an upperclass child might be deemed a character failing or mental illness in workingclass children such as Elfriede or Margarete." (page 137)

"For Asperger, autistic psychopathy was abstract thinking par excellence. “Abstraction is so highly developed that the relationship to the concrete, to objects and to people has largely been lost" It was boys who had the capability of higher-order thinking. Boys, Asperger contended, had “a gift for logical ability, abstraction, precise thinking and formulating, and for independent scientific investigation,” while girls were suited “for the concrete and the practical, and for tidy, methodical work.” (page 148)

"But while the girls displayed similar behaviors as Fritz and Harro, Asperger’s clinic interpreted only the boys’ idiosyncrasies as signs of superior intelligence. Atypical speech, for example, signaled exceptional capabilities in what Asperger called “favorable cases” of autistic psychopathy. Autistic children had “a special creative attitude towards language,” Asperger wrote. They could “express their own original experience in a linguistically original form.” Though “often quite abstruse,” Asperger held that autistic children’s “newly formed or partially restructured expressions” showed unique insight. When Asperger asked Fritz on his intelligence test the difference between a fly and a butterfly, he was delighted to hear Fritz say: “The butterfly is snowed, snowed with snow,” and “He is red and blue, and the fly is brown and black,’ ” as these seemed refreshingly creative answers. Asperger also praised how Harro “coined each word to fit the moment.” When asked the difference between a stove and an oven, Harro said that “the stove is what one has in the room as a firebringer.” Such use of “unusual words,” Asperger declared, was an “example of autistic introspection.” (page 149)

"Asperger deemed the boys’ refinement genuin. He celebrated how six-yearold Fritz talked ‘like an adult,’ ” and how one could talk to eight-year-old Harro “as to an adult.” Even Ernst, who Asperger believed was more disabled, spoke “like an adult.” The boys also demonstrated autistic intelligence by talking at length about subjects of their own interest, without much regard for the conversational partner. Asperger wrote of Fritz that “Only rarely was what he said in answer to a question,” and that Harro “did not respond to questions but let his talk run single-mindedly along his own tracks.” Ernst, too, talked “regardless of the questions he was being asked,” but his “ ‘asides’ were quite remarkable.” The Curative Education Clinic judged Margarete’s digressive speaking, however, an inadequacy: “She gives roundabout, lengthy accounts” and “never comes to the end.” Rather than a sign of intelligence, this showed “her uncritical, uncontrolled way of thinking.” Margarete was flighty—while the boys showed acuity. That Asperger paid so much attention to the boys’ intelligence is all the more notable given how difficult it was to measure. Despite resistance from the boys, Asperger invested a great deal of effort into proving their capabilities. “Testing was extremely difficult to carry out” with Fritz, for example. He “constantly jumped up or smacked the experimenter on the hand,” and “would repeatedly drop himself from chair to floor and then enjoy being firmly placed back in his chair again.” When presented with the Lazar system of testing that was traditional at the clinic, Fritz refused to imitate rhythms beaten out; he balked at math calculation problems. When asked about the difference between a tree and a bush, he answered only “there is a difference.” When asked the difference between a cow and calf, he returned, “lammerlammerlammer. . . .” Yet Asperger was willing to impute skills to Fritz that he did not demonstrate in the testing. When Fritz repeated up to six digits from memory, Asperger remarked, “One was left with a strong impression that he could go further, except that he just did not feel like it.” Asperger based his claim that Fritz had “extraordinary calculating ability” on discussions with the boy’s parents and, later, individualized instruction in the ward. Fritz’s skills would not have been revealed without the intensive efforts of Asperger and his colleagues to uncover it. Testing Harro was just as difficult as testing Fritz, Asperger held. “A lot of energy went into simply making him do the tasks,” since Harro would “shut off completely when a question did not interest him.” But Asperger, as with Fritz, gave the boy the benefit of the doubt. He deemed Harro’s unusual answers evidence of unusual intelligence. On the difference between a lake and a river, Harro explained: “Well, the lake, it doesn’t move from its spot, and it can never be as long and never have that many branches, and it always has an end" (page 149)

"Asperger also proclaimed that autistic boys had unique powers of perception: a “special clear-sightedness” that was “seen only in them,” with special capabilities to “engage in a particular kind of introspection and to be a judge of character.” He maintained that their “psychopathic clarity of vision” was uncanny, almost miraculous. One “distinctive trait” that Asperger highlighted was autistic boys’ “rare maturity of taste in art.” Whereas “normal children” gravitate toward the “pretty picture, with kitschy rose pink and sky blue,” he claimed, autistic children “may have a special understanding of works of art which are difficult even for many adults.” In Asperger’s opinion, they were especially good at “Romanesque sculpture or paintings by Rembrandt.” Asperger gave no evidence for his claims of “special clear-sightedness” in autistic psychopathy. The right or wrongness of his claims notwithstanding, it is doubtful his clinic gave either Elfriede or Margarete an opportunity to judge either Rembrandt paintings or Romanesque sculptures." (page 151)

"in the conclusion to his treatise, Asperger argued that children with autistic psychopathy could be valuable to society. “Autistic people have their place in the organism of the social community,” he declared, and “they fulfill their role well, perhaps better than anyone else could.” He also defended children with developmental differences in general, contending that “Abnormal personalities can be capable of development and adjustment,” and that “Possibilities of social integration which one would never have dreamt of arise in the course of development.” (page 153)

"Asperger outlined this in the bluntest terms, charging that people with autistic psychopathy spanned “from the highly original genius, through the weird eccentric who lives in a world of his own and achieves very little, down to the most severe contact-disturbed, automaton-like mentally retarded individual.” Essentially, autistic psychopathy had both positive and negative traits, and one could add up a ledger to determine a child’s value. Asperger held that youths on the “most favorable” end of his “range” might be superior to “normal children.” As adults, they would “perform with such outstanding success that one may even conclude that only such people are capable of certain achievements.” This was “usually in highly specialised academic professions, often in very high positions” such as “mathematicians, technologists, industrial chemists and high-ranking civil servants.” Asperger was stressing traits that were valuable to the Nazi state, and this may have been a strategic attempt to defend these children from persecution. But he also attributed some traits to autistic children—such as artistic taste in Rembrandt paintings and Romanesque sculpture—which were rather unusual to spotlight if he did not believe in them." (page 154)

hitler also was an autistic psychopath and had asperger's like me and all the other users on this forum:

i will be adding more information to this thread when i'm done researching, there is more information in that book but i'm just reading some parts that had the words "autistic psychopath" through the word finder, i will see if i find more but i will miss many things
Did varg vikernes tell you this?
 
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