Discussion The idea that a lot of us wouldn't be incels in the past while true would have just been due to betabuxxing being easier

[Paladin]

Due to their being less women in the workforce many women had way more of a need for low SMV guys resources even if these guys weren't making a ton of money compared to what's needed today if you wanna try betabux. And if I'm honest I just can't say I care about the idea of that. Dealing with a woman who has no real attraction towards me and is only with me because of my resources sounds like more of a hassle than anything, like I guess you can have sex with her but I don't value sex enough on it's own to have to deal with a foid that doesn't actually like me, dealing with people is exhausting for me in general never mind being in a proper relationship. I can't care about a relationship with a woman who has no real attraction or lust towards me and that can only come from my genetic value like looks or height and in that case there is no time period that would grant me that with the genetics I have.

 

[Maikowski]

providing was normal and not beta back then all men were expected to provide for the family

 

[Fantasea]

the age old social contract is men provide a living, women provide pussy + help with kids. it only became "betabuxxing" when women became extremely bitchy and got free reigns over divorce grape. I'd have no problem betabuxxing a woman who doesn't actually love me as long as she isn't arrogant af and does her share (clean, cook, not too much nagging, no dead bedroom, no cheating, no divorce grape etc.). modern foids aren't at all worth betabuxxing for.

 

[justuseless]

Women weren't obnoxious masculine whores back then

 

[WeirdPanda]

Due to their being less women in the workforce many women had way more of a need for low SMV guys resources even if these guys weren't making a ton of money compared to what's needed today if you wanna try betabux. And if I'm honest I just can't say I care about the idea of that. Dealing with a woman who has no real attraction towards me and is only with me because of my resources sounds like more of a hassle than anything, like I guess you can have sex with her but I don't value sex enough on it's own to have to deal with a foid that doesn't actually like me, dealing with people is exhausting for me in general never mind being in a proper relationship. I can't care about a relationship with a woman who has no real attraction or lust towards me and that can only come from my genetic value like looks or height and in that case there is no time period that would grant me that with the genetics I have.

Well, true, betabux shit is just mild statusmaxxing. I mean I dunno if it changes though if you become a celebrity or become known for curing cancer or smth like that

 

[Fantasea]

Well, true, betabux shit is just mild statusmaxxing. I mean I dunno if it changes though if you become a celebrity or become known for curing cancer or smth like that

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[WeirdPanda]

holy AVI and title color upgrade

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Changing my theme song real soon as well hold on

 

[Paladin]

the age old social contract is men provide a living, women provide pussy + help with kids. it only became "betabuxxing" when women became extremely bitchy and got free reigns over divorce grape. I'd have no problem betabuxxing a woman who doesn't actually love me as long as she isn't arrogant af and does her share (clean, cook, not too much nagging, no dead bedroom, no cheating, no divorce grape etc.). modern foids aren't at all worth betabuxxing for.

I see. It's still just her using you for your resources with no real lust behind it but it's not nearly as cucked as it is today because foids would still show you actual respect even if it wasn't genuine. I can still say that something like that wouldn't be for me though. I guess it's kind of idealistic but I care about my inceldom more in that I can't get a womens genuine lust and affection than that I don't have some foid that is completely submissive for me but deep down doesn't have any attraction towards me.

 

[Paladin]

Well, true, betabux shit is just mild statusmaxxing. I mean I dunno if it changes though if you become a celebrity or become known for curing cancer or smth like that

Imo statusmaxxing can help you get genuine attraction but only if you already meet a certain looks threshold. You do see popular figures that aren't insanely good looking or anything get lusted over and I think that's because they get exposed to so many people that could find them attractive compared to the average guy with no status.

 

[Fantasea]

I see. It's still just her using you for your resources with no real lust behind it but it's not nearly as cucked as it is today because foids would still show you actual respect even if it wasn't genuine. I can still say that something like that wouldn't be for me though. I guess it's kind of idealistic but I care about my inceldom more in that I can't get a womens genuine lust and affection than that I don't have some foid that is completely submissive for me but deep down doesn't have any attraction towards me.

u have to compromise somewhere. if she was a virgin before marriage and is obedient u can at least see her as a nice mobile sex doll. it'd just be a matter of lowering ur expectations. ur idealized romance is something very few actually experience in this life for long. i'm also sorta in ur camp as genuine attraction and romance is truly irreplicable but over time I've come to desire less, given how shitty the world we live in is.

 

[Paladin]

u have to compromise somewhere. if she was a virgin before marriage and is obedient u can at least see her as a nice mobile sex doll. it'd just be a matter of lowering ur expectations. ur idealized romance is something very few actually experience in this life for long. i'm also sorta in ur camp as genuine attraction and romance is truly irreplicable but over time I've come to desire less, given how shitty the world we live in is.

I honestly don't think getting genuine non-resource based attraction at some point in your life is insanely uncommon. Think about this if the average age of loss of virginity ranges from around 16-18 in the west depending on the country (I get that these stats have to be self reported but if I'm going off what I've seen irl I don't have any doubts about this at all tbh) and most guys at this age aren't going to have any resources to offer but were still able to get sex. Of course this attraction doesn't last most of the time. Normies constantly get cheated on or get broken up with, attraction can fade over time and I've observed this a lot with older couples, their "relationships" aren't anything to be jealous of but I do genuinely get jealous when I see younger couples even if I know that these relationships aren't perfect obviously and most of them don't last I would like to have experienced something like this sometime in my life.

 

[Fantasea]

I honestly don't think getting genuine non-resource based attraction at some point in your life is insanely uncommon. Think about this if the average age of loss of virginity ranges from around 16-18 in the west depending on the country (I get that these stats have to be self reported but if I'm going off what I've seen irl I don't have any doubts about this at all tbh) and most guys at this age aren't going to have any resources to offer but were still able to get sex. Of course this attraction doesn't last most of the time. Normies constantly get cheated on or get broken up with, attraction can fade over time and I've observed this a lot with older couples, their "relationships" aren't anything to be jealous of but I do genuinely get jealous when I see younger couples even if I know that these relationships aren't perfect obviously and most of them don't last I would like to have experienced something like this sometime in my life.

ur idealized romance is something very few actually experience in this life for long.

believe me they remember the breakups and betrayals more than they do the fleeting passion. When I see young couples outside the male is usually settling hard (obese foid, foid with piercings and a shit ton of tattoos, JBW with midget noodlewhore, etc). Also the teen males participating in those research surveys are the biggest fucking LARPers.

if there's anything u can learn from this piece of shit forum it's that normies aren't at all to be envied.

Inceldom Is Actually A Blessing In Disguise (If You Let It Be)

Made this thread to respond to a specific post that I thinks need to be addressed because it reflects the general mindset of a lot of the incels on this site (incels in general actually). Its a false mindset, you guys clearly haven't "studied" and interacted with normies enough to see whats...

incels.is

 

[Cryotron]

teen males participating in those research surveys are the biggest fucking LARPers.

Yes, male virgins after 18 are seen as biggest losers out there by society, many of them lie about having girlfriend, having sex, just to not be seen as losers when in reality they're incels.

 

[Fantasea]

believe me they remember the breakups and betrayals more than they do the fleeting passion. When I see young couples outside the male is usually settling hard (obese foid, foid with piercings and a shit ton of tattoos, JBW with midget noodlewhore, etc). Also the teen males participating in those research surveys are the biggest fucking LARPers.

if there's anything u can learn from this piece of shit forum it's that normies aren't at all to be envied.

Inceldom Is Actually A Blessing In Disguise (If You Let It Be)

Made this thread to respond to a specific post that I thinks need to be addressed because it reflects the general mindset of a lot of the incels on this site (incels in general actually). Its a false mindset, you guys clearly haven't "studied" and interacted with normies enough to see whats...

incels.is

should've provided a disclaimer since it's been so long. @BlkPillPres eloquently describes some points but he was also a narcissistic hooker worshiping hedonist. so skip over parts where he mentions escorts, how he couldn't care less about romance and that you'd get bored of ur wife eventually (he projects hard with the all men want to cheat notion).

High IQ post (hedonistic pleasures are actually worthless) until OP began to mention escorts.

 

[Paladin]

believe me they remember the breakups and betrayals more than they do the fleeting passion. When I see young couples outside the male is usually settling hard (obese foid, foid with piercings and a shit ton of tattoos, JBW with midget noodlewhore, etc). Also the teen males participating in those research surveys are the biggest fucking LARPers.

if there's anything u can learn from this piece of shit forum it's that normies aren't at all to be envied.

Inceldom Is Actually A Blessing In Disguise (If You Let It Be)

Made this thread to respond to a specific post that I thinks need to be addressed because it reflects the general mindset of a lot of the incels on this site (incels in general actually). Its a false mindset, you guys clearly haven't "studied" and interacted with normies enough to see whats...

incels.is

I remember reading this thread a while back when I was trying to go through most of the must-read threads (never ended up reading most of them out of laziness) and surprisingly I actually went to the effort to read it again after you linked it. I think any attempt to try label inceldom as a blessing in disguise will get labeled as cope by a lot of people but I absolutely agree that normie life isn't what it's cut out to be as anyone who is actually blackpilled should but at the same time I don't think getting to at least it experience would destroy me mentally the way this thread phrases it, that's the part of it that feels like cope to me and I still feel like having experienced having a gf at some point in my teens would outweigh the bad moments of it and any of the emotions I would have felt after it all came crumbling down.

As an incel I've been gatekept from so much life experience, I don't think the feeling that I'm "behind" in life would fully go away obviously but that feeling of being an unfuckable abnormal loser would definitely lessen.

 

[Cnidoblastos]

LOL

 

[Paladin]

should've provided a disclaimer since it's been so long. @BlkPillPres eloquently describes some points but he was also a narcissistic hooker worshiping hedonist. so skip over parts where he mentions escorts, how he couldn't care less about romance and that you'd get bored of ur wife eventually (he projects hard with the all men want to cheat notion).

Yeah kek. People who consistently escortcel come off cucked to me, consistently funding foids for just for letting their holes get fucked. I've had temptations to do it myself and there's a chance that I'll try it once just to see what sex is actually like before I die I guess.

 

[Fantasea]

I remember reading this thread a while back when I was trying to go through most of the must-read threads (never ended up reading most of them out of laziness) and surprisingly I actually went to the effort to read it again after you linked it. I think any attempt to try label inceldom as a blessing in disguise will get labeled as cope by a lot of people but I absolutely agree that normie life isn't what it's cut out to be as anyone who is actually blackpilled should but at the same time I don't think getting to at least it experience would destroy me mentally the way this thread phrases it, that's the part of it that feels like cope to me and I still feel like having experienced having a gf at some point in my teens would outweigh the bad moments of it and any of the emotions I would have felt after it all came crumbling down.

As an incel I've been gatekept from so much life experience, I don't think the feeling that I'm "behind" in life would fully go away obviously but that feeling of being an unfuckable abnormal loser would definitely lessen.

imagine what getting cheated on in every relationship (even after u fucking settled hard) would do to ur self-esteem.

 

[Friezacel]

. I can't care about a relationship with a woman who has no real attraction or lust towards me and that can only come from my genetic value like looks or height and in that case there is no time period that would grant me that with the genetics I have.