Maternal and Paternal line rule
The question of who is White passing (still have non white dna) and who is not White in regards to predominately White people with some non-White ancestry rages on. People’s opinions on this topic can range from very liberal to a one drop rule going back 10 generations. I have crystallized a method of determining who is White passing (still have non white dna) and who is not White. This method is realistic, yet at the same time very strict. Here are the details.
If you're 3/4 White, 1/4 non-white (Indian, Arab, north Asian or high cast East Indian) you LOOK White, and it's your father's mother or mother's father who is the non-white grandparent, thus having both a White mtDNA and or White Y-haplogroup, you're either mixed or white passing.
If you're 3/4 White, 1/4 non-White and a female who's mother's mother is non-White, thus a non-White mtDNA haplogroup, you're NOT White
If you're 3/4 White, 1/4 non-White and a male who's father's father is non-white, thus a non-White Y-haplogroup, you're NOT White.
If you're 3/4 White, 1/4 non-White and a male who's mother's mother is non-white, or a female who's father's father is non-white, you’re mixed kalergi mongrel as opposed to out and out non-White. Reason why is that a male will not pass on their mtDNA and a female does not have a Y-haplogroup.
If you're 1/8th non-white, and 7/8th White, in most cases you're not White given the PCA map. The exceptions to this would be a male whose great grandfather along the direct paternal line was non-white, or a female whose great grandmother along the direct maternal line was non-white. In fact a female who is 1/16th, 1/32nd or 1/64th non-White along the direct maternal line may still be considered mixed because of the non-White mtDNA haplogroup. Their male children would be considered non-White assuming their spouse is White. The same principle applies to males who are 1/16th, 1/32nd or 1/64 non-White along the direct paternal line. They also may be considered mixed because of their non-White Y-haplogroup. However, their female children would be considered non-White assuming their spouse is White.
The rules set fourth for 1/4 and 1/8th non-white people, in many cases, do NOT apply if the non-white ancestor is Black. The Black genome is so radically different from the White genome. Such a distinction must be made.
Why the Emphasis on Maternal and Paternal lines?
The reason we must put emphasis on direct maternal and paternal lines is because of mt DNA and Y chromosomes. A person's mt DNA is only passed from mother to child. Y chromosomes are only passed from father to child. Women can only pass on their mt DNA. Men can only pass on their Y chromosome. Y chromosomes and mt DNA are carried on for countless generations.
When examining one’s ancestry, you got to keep in mind the numbers of ancestors you have when you go back generations. Three generations back you have 8 ancestors. Easy to trace and account for all eight ancestors. Five generations back you have 32 ancestors. Not quit as easy to account for all 32 ancestors, although not impossible. When you go 6, 7, 8 or 9 generations back, you find 64, 128, 256 and 512 ancestors respectively. It would be very tough to account for all 64 ancestors going back just 6 generations. Trying to account for all 128, 256 and 512 ancestors would be nearly impossible.
HOWEVER, thanks to mt DNA and Y DNA haplogroups, you can trace your ancestry along direct maternal and paternal lines going back countless generations indefinitely. This makes a person’s ancestry along maternal and paternal lines most important with the direct paternal line being especially important to males and the direct maternal line being especially important to females.
I prefer that mt DNA and Y haplogroups are consistent with the race that the individual appears to be.
Where do Bi-racial people stand in the equation?
If you're a 1/2 White, 1/2 non-white, and a male with a non-white mother and a White father, thus a White Y-haplogroup, you're kalergi mongrel.
If you're a 1/2 White, 1/2 non-white, and a male with a non-white father and a White mother, thus a non-White Y-haplogroup, you're completely NON-WHITE.
If you're a 1/2 White, 1/2 non-white, and a female with a non-white father and a White mother, thus a White mtDNA haplogroup, you're kalergi mongrel.
If you're a 1/2 White, 1/2 non-white, and a female with a non-white mother and a White father, thus a non-White mtDNA haplogroup, you're completely NON-WHITE.
Why the distinction between mixed and non-White Biracial people?
I’ll use two hypothetical, fictitious and very similar examples to demonstrate why this is important.
Let’s say in 1908, there were two half Indian/ half White baby girls born named Mary and Jane. The only real difference between Mary and Jane is that Mary had a White father and an Indian mother, whereas Jane had a White mother and Indian father. Let’s say both Mary and Jane married White men and had quarter breed daughters. Then both quarter breed daughters had daughters, then grand daughters, then great grand daughters. Each generation, these women mate with White men.
Let’s speed ahead to 2008 were we have two 20 year old women named Emily and Lisa. Now Emily’s great, great grandmother was Jane, the woman with a White mother and Indian father. And Lisa’s great, great grandmother was Mary, the woman with a White father and Indian mother. Both Emily and Lisa look White with no visible traces of non-White ancestry. Both Emily and Lisa have the same small amount of non-White ancestry. There is just one major difference between Emily and Lisa. Emily goes for a genetic test and has a White mt DNA haplogroup H, consistent to how White she looks. White, European mt DNA that she will pass on to her children. At the same time, Lisa goes for a genetic test and has an alien, non-White mt DNA haplogroup B, that does not reflect at all how White she looks. Non-White mt DNA that she will pass on to her children, regardless of how White her husband may be. Thus, these half breed are in fact pose as a trojan horse because of how white passing they really are.
Again, Let’s say in 1908, there were two half Asian, half White baby boys born named Bob and Joe. The only real difference between Bob and Joe is that Bob had a White father and an Asian mother, whereas Joe had a White mother and Asian father. Let’s say both Bob and Joe married White women and had quarter breed sons. Then both quarter breed sons had sons then grandsons then great grandsons. Each generation, these men mate with White women.
Let’s speed ahead to 2008 were we have two 20 year old men named Dean and Tyler. Now Tyler's’s great, great grandfather was Bob, the man with a White father and Asian mother. And Dean's’s great, great grandfather was Joe, the man with a White mother and Asian father. Both Tyler and Dean look White with no visible traces of non-White ancestry. Both Tyler and Dean have the same small amount of non-White ancestry. In this case, there are 2 major differences between Tyler and Dean. Tyler goes for a genetic test and has a White Y-haplogroup R1b, consistent to how White he looks. A White, European Y-chromosome that he will pass on to his sons. Tyler also has a White sounding surname. At the same time, Dean goes for a genetic test and has an alien, non-White Y-haplogroup C and a non-White surname of Chong that does not reflect at all how White he looks. Non-White surname that he will pass on to her children and a non-White Y-haplogroup he will pass on to his sons, regardless of how White his wife may be.
Looking back 100 years, the fact that Jane had a White mother, Mary had an Indian mother, Bob had a White father and Joe had an Asian father made a big difference. This is why I make a distinction between biracial females with a White mother compared to biracial females with a non-White mother and make a distinction between Biracial males with a White father compared with biracial males with a non-White father. This is why I say that Jane and Bob were mixed (only white passing), whereas Mary and Joe were straight out NON-White. If you test both of their autosomal dna then you will find the non-white dna among them totally distinct from the untainted whites.
If a Black American male has a White Y haplogroup, does this make them any less Black?
Yes, it does make them less Black. I'll explain how.
Let's say for example you have 2 afro American men, Joe and Leroy.
Both are 80% Black and 20% White.
Both are married to White women with mulatto offspring.
The only real difference is that Joe's Y haplogroup is Rb1a1a, were as Leroy's Y haplogroup is E1b1a. This means that Joe's mulatto offspring have both a European Y haplogroup and mtDNA. Were as Leroy's mulatto offspring have a European mtDNA, but an African Y haplogroup.
Joe's mulatto offspring are by NO means even close to being White. However, with each generation, the African autosomal DNA can be cut in half. Within 4 to 5 generations, the African autosomal DNA would be minimal, with European Y and mtDNA haplogroups.
On the other hand, Leroy's mulatto offspring will have the African Y haplogroup that could be pass down indefinitely to future generations as long as the sons keep having sons.
This makes Joe (Rb1a1a) less objectionable or the lesser of 2 evils in terms of borderline assimilation, than Leroy (E1b1a) So Joe, who's Y haplogroup is Rb1a1a is indeed less Black that Leroy who's Y haplogroup is E1b1a but still a kalergi mongrel who act as trojan horse bringing non-white dna to the untainted population.
The question of who is White passing (still have non white dna) and who is not White in regards to predominately White people with some non-White ancestry rages on. People’s opinions on this topic can range from very liberal to a one drop rule going back 10 generations. I have crystallized a method of determining who is White passing (still have non white dna) and who is not White. This method is realistic, yet at the same time very strict. Here are the details.
If you're 3/4 White, 1/4 non-white (Indian, Arab, north Asian or high cast East Indian) you LOOK White, and it's your father's mother or mother's father who is the non-white grandparent, thus having both a White mtDNA and or White Y-haplogroup, you're either mixed or white passing.
If you're 3/4 White, 1/4 non-White and a female who's mother's mother is non-White, thus a non-White mtDNA haplogroup, you're NOT White
If you're 3/4 White, 1/4 non-White and a male who's father's father is non-white, thus a non-White Y-haplogroup, you're NOT White.
If you're 3/4 White, 1/4 non-White and a male who's mother's mother is non-white, or a female who's father's father is non-white, you’re mixed kalergi mongrel as opposed to out and out non-White. Reason why is that a male will not pass on their mtDNA and a female does not have a Y-haplogroup.
If you're 1/8th non-white, and 7/8th White, in most cases you're not White given the PCA map. The exceptions to this would be a male whose great grandfather along the direct paternal line was non-white, or a female whose great grandmother along the direct maternal line was non-white. In fact a female who is 1/16th, 1/32nd or 1/64th non-White along the direct maternal line may still be considered mixed because of the non-White mtDNA haplogroup. Their male children would be considered non-White assuming their spouse is White. The same principle applies to males who are 1/16th, 1/32nd or 1/64 non-White along the direct paternal line. They also may be considered mixed because of their non-White Y-haplogroup. However, their female children would be considered non-White assuming their spouse is White.
The rules set fourth for 1/4 and 1/8th non-white people, in many cases, do NOT apply if the non-white ancestor is Black. The Black genome is so radically different from the White genome. Such a distinction must be made.
Why the Emphasis on Maternal and Paternal lines?
The reason we must put emphasis on direct maternal and paternal lines is because of mt DNA and Y chromosomes. A person's mt DNA is only passed from mother to child. Y chromosomes are only passed from father to child. Women can only pass on their mt DNA. Men can only pass on their Y chromosome. Y chromosomes and mt DNA are carried on for countless generations.
When examining one’s ancestry, you got to keep in mind the numbers of ancestors you have when you go back generations. Three generations back you have 8 ancestors. Easy to trace and account for all eight ancestors. Five generations back you have 32 ancestors. Not quit as easy to account for all 32 ancestors, although not impossible. When you go 6, 7, 8 or 9 generations back, you find 64, 128, 256 and 512 ancestors respectively. It would be very tough to account for all 64 ancestors going back just 6 generations. Trying to account for all 128, 256 and 512 ancestors would be nearly impossible.
HOWEVER, thanks to mt DNA and Y DNA haplogroups, you can trace your ancestry along direct maternal and paternal lines going back countless generations indefinitely. This makes a person’s ancestry along maternal and paternal lines most important with the direct paternal line being especially important to males and the direct maternal line being especially important to females.
I prefer that mt DNA and Y haplogroups are consistent with the race that the individual appears to be.
Where do Bi-racial people stand in the equation?
If you're a 1/2 White, 1/2 non-white, and a male with a non-white mother and a White father, thus a White Y-haplogroup, you're kalergi mongrel.
If you're a 1/2 White, 1/2 non-white, and a male with a non-white father and a White mother, thus a non-White Y-haplogroup, you're completely NON-WHITE.
If you're a 1/2 White, 1/2 non-white, and a female with a non-white father and a White mother, thus a White mtDNA haplogroup, you're kalergi mongrel.
If you're a 1/2 White, 1/2 non-white, and a female with a non-white mother and a White father, thus a non-White mtDNA haplogroup, you're completely NON-WHITE.
Why the distinction between mixed and non-White Biracial people?
I’ll use two hypothetical, fictitious and very similar examples to demonstrate why this is important.
Let’s say in 1908, there were two half Indian/ half White baby girls born named Mary and Jane. The only real difference between Mary and Jane is that Mary had a White father and an Indian mother, whereas Jane had a White mother and Indian father. Let’s say both Mary and Jane married White men and had quarter breed daughters. Then both quarter breed daughters had daughters, then grand daughters, then great grand daughters. Each generation, these women mate with White men.
Let’s speed ahead to 2008 were we have two 20 year old women named Emily and Lisa. Now Emily’s great, great grandmother was Jane, the woman with a White mother and Indian father. And Lisa’s great, great grandmother was Mary, the woman with a White father and Indian mother. Both Emily and Lisa look White with no visible traces of non-White ancestry. Both Emily and Lisa have the same small amount of non-White ancestry. There is just one major difference between Emily and Lisa. Emily goes for a genetic test and has a White mt DNA haplogroup H, consistent to how White she looks. White, European mt DNA that she will pass on to her children. At the same time, Lisa goes for a genetic test and has an alien, non-White mt DNA haplogroup B, that does not reflect at all how White she looks. Non-White mt DNA that she will pass on to her children, regardless of how White her husband may be. Thus, these half breed are in fact pose as a trojan horse because of how white passing they really are.
Again, Let’s say in 1908, there were two half Asian, half White baby boys born named Bob and Joe. The only real difference between Bob and Joe is that Bob had a White father and an Asian mother, whereas Joe had a White mother and Asian father. Let’s say both Bob and Joe married White women and had quarter breed sons. Then both quarter breed sons had sons then grandsons then great grandsons. Each generation, these men mate with White women.
Let’s speed ahead to 2008 were we have two 20 year old men named Dean and Tyler. Now Tyler's’s great, great grandfather was Bob, the man with a White father and Asian mother. And Dean's’s great, great grandfather was Joe, the man with a White mother and Asian father. Both Tyler and Dean look White with no visible traces of non-White ancestry. Both Tyler and Dean have the same small amount of non-White ancestry. In this case, there are 2 major differences between Tyler and Dean. Tyler goes for a genetic test and has a White Y-haplogroup R1b, consistent to how White he looks. A White, European Y-chromosome that he will pass on to his sons. Tyler also has a White sounding surname. At the same time, Dean goes for a genetic test and has an alien, non-White Y-haplogroup C and a non-White surname of Chong that does not reflect at all how White he looks. Non-White surname that he will pass on to her children and a non-White Y-haplogroup he will pass on to his sons, regardless of how White his wife may be.
Looking back 100 years, the fact that Jane had a White mother, Mary had an Indian mother, Bob had a White father and Joe had an Asian father made a big difference. This is why I make a distinction between biracial females with a White mother compared to biracial females with a non-White mother and make a distinction between Biracial males with a White father compared with biracial males with a non-White father. This is why I say that Jane and Bob were mixed (only white passing), whereas Mary and Joe were straight out NON-White. If you test both of their autosomal dna then you will find the non-white dna among them totally distinct from the untainted whites.
If a Black American male has a White Y haplogroup, does this make them any less Black?
Yes, it does make them less Black. I'll explain how.
Let's say for example you have 2 afro American men, Joe and Leroy.
Both are 80% Black and 20% White.
Both are married to White women with mulatto offspring.
The only real difference is that Joe's Y haplogroup is Rb1a1a, were as Leroy's Y haplogroup is E1b1a. This means that Joe's mulatto offspring have both a European Y haplogroup and mtDNA. Were as Leroy's mulatto offspring have a European mtDNA, but an African Y haplogroup.
Joe's mulatto offspring are by NO means even close to being White. However, with each generation, the African autosomal DNA can be cut in half. Within 4 to 5 generations, the African autosomal DNA would be minimal, with European Y and mtDNA haplogroups.
On the other hand, Leroy's mulatto offspring will have the African Y haplogroup that could be pass down indefinitely to future generations as long as the sons keep having sons.
This makes Joe (Rb1a1a) less objectionable or the lesser of 2 evils in terms of borderline assimilation, than Leroy (E1b1a) So Joe, who's Y haplogroup is Rb1a1a is indeed less Black that Leroy who's Y haplogroup is E1b1a but still a kalergi mongrel who act as trojan horse bringing non-white dna to the untainted population.
If you're White and mate with non-Whites then your offspring are less related to you than the average White person walking down the street in your neighborhood.
Conclusion
A common view in the White Nationalist community regarding the question of "who is White?" is the 1/16th rule. Given the large percentage of 1/4 and 1/8th non-whites that some white people have today, is the 1/16th rule reasonable under these conditions? This would exclude a lot of people who look White, who pose trojan horse threat to the race, and are ingrained in white people society. It just makes more sense for white nationalist to exclude them all through genetic testing.
A common view in the White Nationalist community regarding the question of "who is White?" is the 1/16th rule. Given the large percentage of 1/4 and 1/8th non-whites that some white people have today, is the 1/16th rule reasonable under these conditions? This would exclude a lot of people who look White, who pose trojan horse threat to the race, and are ingrained in white people society. It just makes more sense for white nationalist to exclude them all through genetic testing.
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