The fact that MGTOW's exist shows how decayed our society has become.

[Deleted member 24160]

And don't say something like "MGTOW should be changed to MSTOW" because that's not the point of this thread. The fact that thousands of guys are saying that they don't want to date women because of how crappy they are should not be thinkable yet here we are. Men are completely giving up on basic biological functions because women not only won't give average men the time of day but are also terrible to be around. Incels will always exist but the fact that more men's virginity rates are getting higher also shows how bad things are getting.

 

[endofdopamine]

I feel like it has to do in part with this culture that social media has created about always having and wanting better things, and showing those things off. People aren’t satisfied with average anymore, but feel they deserve the best of the best.

 

[Deleted member 24256]

brutal truth.
depressing af how normal people can recognize how degen females have become

 

[Copemaxx]

mgtow is cope
volcel is cope
every straight mentally ok man wants to get his dick wet and eventually settle down, and every woman secretly wants to settle down with a man as well

 

[Wristlet 2]

MGTOWs are just coping faggots who have been sent their own way

 

[Deleted member 24160]

I feel like it has to do in part with this culture that social media has created about always having and wanting better things, and showing those things off. People aren’t satisfied with average anymore, but feel they deserve the best of the best.

Men are fine with average. Women in general aren’t though they put up with it back then because they had to.

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

MGTOW is 99% incels.

I can claim to be "MGTOW volcel" but when I'm 5'2 indian and balding it doesn't matter what the fuck I am because if I tried to not be volcel/mgtow it wouldn't work.

 

[Wristlet 2]

mgtow is cope
volcel is cope

tbh

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

MGTOWs are just coping faggots who have been sent their own way

 

[Deleted member 24160]

mgtow is cope
volcel is cope

MGTOWs are just coping faggots who have been sent their own way

You two missed the point of the thread.

 

[ItsOver4cel]

Ngl women in fiction are one thousand times better than irl ones
That says a lot

 

[Copemaxx]

You two missed the point of the thread.

shut the fuck up highschooler. the point is mgtow are very little different from us. the ones that do get laid are still coping and insecure as fuck. but at least we both agree on sub8

 

[Deleted member 24160]

shut the fuck up highschooler.

You always use my age when you respond to me. Do you have any other arguments then “your young”.

 

[Emba]

MGTOWs are just coping faggots who have been sent their own way

 

[Copemaxx]

You always use my age when you respond to me. Do you have any other arguments then “your young”.

use your youth to go after jbs your own age and looksmax, people under 18 or arguably 19 shouldnt be here. plus you're objectively not as knowledgable as your elders are.

 

[Wristlet 2]

Ngl women in fiction are one thousand times better than irl ones
That says a lot

what the fuck is this turbocope

 

[ItsOver4cel]

what the fuck is this turbocope

So u r gonna say irl ones are better?

 

[Deleted member 24160]

use your youth to go after jbs your own age and looksmax, people under 18 or arguably 19 shouldnt be here. plus you're objectively not as knowledgable as your elders are.

Women keep telling me I’m ugly and I’ve asked out 8 girls who all rejected me because in their own words I’m ugly. And I never acted like I know better than someone else here.

what the fuck is this turbocope

He means they have better personalities then real ones.

 

[TINMAN]

I would rather have men become MGTOWS than have them be the the cucks and simps they are today

 

[Copemaxx]

Women keep telling me I’m ugly and I’ve asked out 8 girls who all rejected me because in their own words I’m ugly. And I never acted like I know better than someone else here.
unironically make an account on looksmaxx and looksmaxx and ascend before its too late, brother

He means they have better personalities then real ones.

 

[Wristlet 2]

You two missed the point of the thread.

its not that i missd the point of the thread, i think mgtows arent a real thing, they havent chosen to be that way they're just coping

also, our society cant "decay" because all societies are horrible in the first place, even in the old times that a lot of this forum idealizes, most relationships were horrible bc women only want chad so they resented their beta work drone husbands for not being chad

 

[Deleted member 24160]

its not that i missd the point of the thread, i think mgtows arent a real thing, they havent chosen to be that way they're just coping

While that is true the fact that woman are so bad now that they say they don’t even want them is pretty bad. Even if they are coping they’re not wrong.

 

[Wristlet 2]

So u r gonna say irl ones are better?

yes because fictional women are by definition a cope

 

[based_meme]

use your youth to go after jbs your own age and looksmax, people under 18 or arguably 19 shouldnt be here. plus you're objectively not as knowledgable as your elders are.

Don't be a faggot. He's mature for his age.

 

[Wristlet 2]

While that is true the fact that woman are so bad now that they say they don’t even want them is pretty bad. Even if they are coping they’re not wrong.

fair point ngl but check my edit brocel

Don't be a faggot. He's mature for his age.

yeah, when someone is really high iq, as the average blackpilled incel is, age isnt relevant. i was higher iq at 12 than most adults and so are most of this forum's youngcels

 

[Copemaxx]

Don't be a faggot. He's mature for his age.

i mean his elders on here, his posts are shit. you retard

 

[CopingJim]

Ngl women in fiction are one thousand times better than irl ones
That says a lot

Cant wait till we properly replace these useless whores

 

[Deleted member 24160]

use your youth to go after jbs your own age and looksmax, people under 18 or arguably 19 shouldnt be here. plus you're objectively not as knowledgable as your elders are.

Did you try to respond to me?

 

[ItsOver4cel]

yes because fictional women are by definition a cope

That's the purpose nigga
To show you different realities as stupid as they may sound

 

[Wristlet 2]

i mean his elders on here, his posts are shit. you retard

rude tbh

take the frenpill bro, we're suffering together, why be rude to each other

 

[Copemaxx]

Did you try to respond to me?

check my latest post

rude tbh

take the frenpill bro, we're suffering together, why be rude to each other

im a pretty friendly poster in general just dont be retarded when u respond to my shit

 

[Deleted member 24160]

also, our society cant "decay" because all societies are horrible in the first place, even in the old times that a lot of this forum idealizes, most relationships were horrible bc women only want chad so they resented their beta work drone husbands for not being chad

That’s true. But at least some back then could pretend to like their husbands. Most nowadays can’t even fake decency to the average guy.

i mean his elders on here, his posts are shit. you retard

How are they bad? And I asked if you responded because you just reposted something I said without your own response.

 

[Wristlet 2]

That’s true. But at least some back then could pretend to like their husbands. Most nowadays can’t even fake decency to the average guy.

nah women were the same brocel, just think about it. think about those old myths that women are asexual, bitter etc, where do you think they come from? bc they're like that with non chads jfl

 

[Deleted member 24160]

nah women were the same brocel, just think about it. think about those old myths that women are asexual, bitter etc, where do you think they come from? bc they're like that with non chads jfl

Yeah thats why I said some faked decency. Key word being some. Most would just insult their husbands. If you ask most boomers that aren’t trying to keep up an image about their marriage they’ll tell you it was horrible.

 

[Wristlet 2]

Yeah thats why I said some faked decency. Key word being some. Most would just insult their husbands. If you ask most boomers that aren’t trying to keep up an image about their marriage they’ll tell you it was horrible.

so society didnt really decay it just got slightly worse, its not like it was good but it got bad or something

 

[Deleted member 24160]

so society didnt really decay it just got slightly worse, its not like it was good but it got bad or something

That's true. But the fact women can't even fake basic decency and treat the majority of men like crap is in my opinion worse then them just faking it.

 

[Wristlet 2]

That's true. But the fact women can't even fake basic decency and treat the majority of men like crap is in my opinion worse then them just faking it.

yeah they're human garbage there's no way around it

 

[Too_ugly_forlife]

There are a lot of mgtow guys that don't self identify as mgtow. They just realize the game is rigged. Cope or not mgtow is the correct response to out of control female hypergamy.

 

[InvisibleWizard]

Some people are way off about MGTOWs. There is a difference between the two groups, but there are some overlaps, let me explain. See, some older dudes, who got divorce raped, kids taken, and forced to pay alimony to their bitch of an ex wife have legitimate reason to stay away from women. They have been hit the hardest emotionally, AND financially. You see women's nature, realize how terrible they are, and decide to go their own way.

Incels are people who have had the worst luck of the draw, combined with one of the worst time periods for their given situation. Incels are men who are not getting any romantic interest or sex. Incels who aren't brainlets have created numerous sub groups, and have done research to see how bad the modern woman is. So now we have two groups who both agree that women overall are terrible, but one group has had sex and has a legitmate reason for going their own way. Incels saying they are going MGTOW is pretty silly. We aren't getting sex anyway, and you would be volcel not to jump at a decent opportunity, should such fantasy ever to you.

 

[Diet_Choke]

I don't think mgtow is a cope
I think incels who call themselves mgtow are a cope

Obviously some men in society can get laid and just say "the work I'm putting in isn't worth the reward."

Think of the tons of men out there who have been thru the divorce meatgrinder, alot of them have thrown in the towel.

So no, I don't think mgtow doesn't exist, I think it's very much a real thing.

"Society" is essentially broken.
It's not even just a matter of being a 5'2 indian janitor
5'2 indian janitors should be able to find 5'2 indian janitor wives
But they can't, because society is broken

Both libtards and conservitards support women's lib for different reasons
Libtards because "muh oppressive patriarchy"
Conservatards because "muh corporations needs wahmen's labor"

Which means all the wahmen out there are making big money, they don't need our ass anymore, they can wait till Mr Perfect comes along (which usually he never will) or they'll wait till 5 minutes before the bio clock runs out and find some simp to knock them up, divorce his ass and take his loot.

It's a fucked up broken society.

And I'll tell you one more thing.
You guys are retards for attacking other men.
Men should never attack each other, they should have solidarity and brotherly esteem.

 

[Deleted member 16390]

Some incels hope and work for ascension, a few will succeed and mgtow is what await them.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

You can be both. The problem is that a lot of mgtows make fun of incels and aren't willing to admit they're incels themselves. And incels totally dismiss mgtow because of this.

 

[Numb]

That's true. But the fact women can't even fake basic decency and treat the majority of men like crap is in my opinion worse then them just faking it.

they try their best at plastic politeness tbh

 

[Yerberito]

They prefer to being volcels to betabuxx