Serious The dating market is getting really bad and it’s worse than most of you believe

[2 Betrayals]

I don’t know what it is about 2019 but as of now if I look back to my HS and college classmates that had decent gfs previously are straight up incel now. I’m talking 6/10 - 7/10 guys too. Even a former coworker Chad who was able to smash 14 girls in 2014 couldn’t get anything but a single mom now. I don’t know if it’s my area or something (Southern California) But the 29% incel men stat is no where close to reality here. If I look at my graduating class like 70% of men are straight up incel. Where as a couple years ago a majority of guys had a gf or something, now a majority guys are single as fuck. I’m actually surprised at how bad it is, like I’ve always been blackpilled but now, reality is actually way worse than even the most alarmist of memes on here. JFL if you guys still don’t believe in sub-8 theory after the r/dataisbeatiful threads showing that even disgusting women swipe on less than 1% of males.

Like there’s people on here that straight up believe that a 6/10 white guy can easily get ethnic woman to line up for them. JFL, maybe in 2014 that was true. Hypergamy and expectation have only risen and from what I have seen in the past couple years, it’s on an exponential curve. It’s amazing how many guys with above average looks are virgins into their mid 20s. All these guys are deluded to think that they just need a couple more years for their graduate degrees and that six figure job and THEN they will enter the dating market and be chad. Like it’s getting really really bad boyos, maybe my area is ahead on Hypergamy but holy shiiiiiet it’s worse then I could ever imagine. High tier normies and chadlites are incel now. Most guys of course cope that they “just aren’t looking for anything” or that they are “busy” or “done with woman” or “MGTOW” or any fucking excuse but these are the same guys I see go on a dating app for a month, get nothing or go on dates with a girl that far below their looks level to only pay out for free meals and get ghosted after 2 dates. Seriously I have a 6’7 chad classmate that was complaining about that the last 3 women he met online ghosted after the second date and believes he’s cursed from all the woman he pumped and dumped in the past. Guys if I’m seeing chads struggling it’s really really over. Like wtf...we all knew that’s its bad, but THIS bad!? Nah man this has to be hell. I no longer believe this is real life.

 

[Guest2]

It's over for many men.

 

[Evildоer]

6/10 PSL is very attractive and would slay IRL

 

[Alone75]

I have zero motivation to try any dating site/app anymore, it's all a joke. Very ugly, older foids or landwhales don't lower their standards for uglier and low status poorer men either by the way. But it might be better where you guys live!

 

[tooth monster]

It's no better than 95/5 in 2019

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

I don’t know what it is about 2019 but as of now if I look back to my HS and college classmates that had decent gfs previously are straight up incel now. I’m talking 6/10 - 7/10 guys too. Even a former coworker Chad who was able to smash 14 girls in 2014 couldn’t get anything but a single mom now. I don’t know if it’s my area or something (Southern California) But the 29% incel men stat is no where close to reality here. If I look at my graduating class like 70% of men are straight up incel. Where as a couple years ago a majority of guys had a gf or something, now a majority guys are single as fuck. I’m actually surprised at how bad it is, like I’ve always been blackpilled but now, reality is actually way worse than even the most alarmist of memes on here. JFL if you guys still don’t believe in sub-8 theory after the r/dataisbeatiful threads showing that even disgusting women swipe on less than 1% of males.

Like there’s people on here that straight up believe that a 6/10 white guy can easily get ethnic woman to line up for them. JFL, maybe in 2014 that was true. Hypergamy and expectation have only risen and from what I have seen in the past couple years, it’s on an exponential curve. It’s amazing how many guys with above average looks are virgins into their mid 20s. All these guys are deluded to think that they just need a couple more years for their graduate degrees and that six figure job and THEN they will enter the dating market and be chad. Like it’s getting really really bad boyos, maybe my area is ahead on Hypergamy but holy shiiiiiet it’s worse then I could ever imagine. High tier normies and chadlites are incel now. Most guys of course cope that they “just aren’t looking for anything” or that they are “busy” or “done with woman” or “MGTOW” or any fucking excuse but these are the same guys I see go on a dating app for a month, get nothing or go on dates with a girl that far below their looks level to only pay out for free meals and get ghosted after 2 dates. Seriously I have a 6’7 chad classmate that was complaining about that the last 3 women he met online ghosted after the second date and believes he’s cursed from all the woman he pumped and dumped in the past. Guys if I’m seeing chads struggling it’s really really over. Like wtf...we all knew that’s its bad, but THIS bad!? Nah man this has to be hell. I no longer believe this is real life.

This is beautiful. We are no longer alone boys.

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

It's no better than 95/5 in 2019

Based flosscel

 

[ihaveno1]

Holy shit according to that map its insanely bad in florida

 

[2 Betrayals]

6/10 PSL is very attractive and would slay IRL

I invite you guys to get a PSL 6/10 profile in Southern California and try to get a girl to actually show up and be interested in a date. Like sure 6/10-7/10 guys gets matches and maybe dates but that’s it. Like you have to go from match to convo to long convo to date to other dates to relationship/sex and at each stage the odds are slimmer and slimmer.

 

[Speedloader]

Lifefuel tbh. More incels = more troops for beta uprising

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

I just want to say that these men need to be introduced to the blackpill so they don't support counter-male causes.

 

[FlamingCel]

Yikes

 

[loserkarthusplayer]

I missed those "in 2016-2017-2018-2019" memes tbh it looked stupid but actually true I understand now it's just getting worse sexual market place is truly fucked up

 

[Ellsworth]

You youngcels have no idea how bad it has gotten in recent years like since 2010. Around 2010 most of us could probably actually get a date. Today it’s over for most of us other than the few lucky fakecels or youngcels who grow enough to ascend.

 

[SecondComing]

"Single women" are still sharing few Chads/Chadlites. Fake map.

 

[Yungguy]

Lifefuel tbh. More incels = more troops for beta uprising

Accelerate the inevitable collapse

 

[2 Betrayals]

"Single women" are still sharing few Chads/Chadlites. Fake map.

Male-to-Female Ratio of Unmarried Adults, by Age, 2012

www.pewsocialtrends.org

Nope. The United States is a complete and utter sausage fest. Too many moms giving birth to one boy and not enough wars and industrial accidents to cull the excess like in the past. Go look at the fucking US census, unmarried females to males. There’s like 30 excess males for every 100 in the ages of 18-30. The BIGGEST lie ever told to men is that there is just as many females. That because y’all are counting grannies 50-85 JFL. In the 18-30 prime bracket it’s a sausage fest beyond comprehension. We need WW3.

 

[SecondComing]

Male-to-Female Ratio of Unmarried Adults, by Age, 2012

www.pewsocialtrends.org

Nope. The United States is a complete and utter sausage fest. Too many moms giving birth to one boy and not enough wars and industrial accidents to cull the excess like in the past. Go look at the fucking US census, unmarried females to males. There’s like 30 excess males for every 100 in the ages of 18-30. The BIGGEST lie ever told to men is that there is just as many females. That because y’all are counting grannies 50-85 JFL. In the 18-30 prime bracket it’s a sausage fest beyond comprehension. We need WW3.

I mean that the difference between single males and single females is even greater than that because most single women are still having ONSs with men several points above their league.

 

[2 Betrayals]

I mean that the difference between single males and single females is even greater than that because most single women are still having ONSs with men several points above their league.

Yeah sure but even if they weren’t doing that the situation would still be dogshit for men. Nature always made sure to born an excess of 10 males for every 100. Combine this with China and india aborting female babies (of course the 2 most populous counties did this JFL @ this earth) and now in 2019 you have this situation. Globally there’s such an extreme female shortage in the age brackets that matter 18-30, that there’s 200 million surplus men globally. And people wonder how ISIS and HTS came to be. All this shit wouldn’t be possible without excess males so fed up with life they would rather grab a flight to fight in the sandbox than live in a western country. It’s amazing at how stable the world still is with these abysmal demographics.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

I don’t know what it is about 2019 but as of now if I look back to my HS and college classmates that had decent gfs previously are straight up incel now. I’m talking 6/10 - 7/10 guys too. Even a former coworker Chad who was able to smash 14 girls in 2014 couldn’t get anything but a single mom now. I don’t know if it’s my area or something (Southern California) But the 29% incel men stat is no where close to reality here. If I look at my graduating class like 70% of men are straight up incel. Where as a couple years ago a majority of guys had a gf or something, now a majority guys are single as fuck. I’m actually surprised at how bad it is, like I’ve always been blackpilled but now, reality is actually way worse than even the most alarmist of memes on here. JFL if you guys still don’t believe in sub-8 theory after the r/dataisbeatiful threads showing that even disgusting women swipe on less than 1% of males.

Like there’s people on here that straight up believe that a 6/10 white guy can easily get ethnic woman to line up for them. JFL, maybe in 2014 that was true. Hypergamy and expectation have only risen and from what I have seen in the past couple years, it’s on an exponential curve. It’s amazing how many guys with above average looks are virgins into their mid 20s. All these guys are deluded to think that they just need a couple more years for their graduate degrees and that six figure job and THEN they will enter the dating market and be chad. Like it’s getting really really bad boyos, maybe my area is ahead on Hypergamy but holy shiiiiiet it’s worse then I could ever imagine. High tier normies and chadlites are incel now. Most guys of course cope that they “just aren’t looking for anything” or that they are “busy” or “done with woman” or “MGTOW” or any fucking excuse but these are the same guys I see go on a dating app for a month, get nothing or go on dates with a girl that far below their looks level to only pay out for free meals and get ghosted after 2 dates. Seriously I have a 6’7 chad classmate that was complaining about that the last 3 women he met online ghosted after the second date and believes he’s cursed from all the woman he pumped and dumped in the past. Guys if I’m seeing chads struggling it’s really really over. Like wtf...we all knew that’s its bad, but THIS bad!? Nah man this has to be hell. I no longer believe this is real life.

I know, most people are way too disconnected.
IRL I've seen so many guys get destroyed like you wouldn't believe. Decent guys forced to eat shit by marrying single moms or cope with escorts.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

I will be so happy when large percentages of normies are forced to choke on the blackpill.

 

[Robtical]

Lifefuel tbh. More incels = more troops for beta uprising

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Male-to-Female Ratio of Unmarried Adults, by Age, 2012

www.pewsocialtrends.org

Nope. The United States is a complete and utter sausage fest. Too many moms giving birth to one boy and not enough wars and industrial accidents to cull the excess like in the past. Go look at the fucking US census, unmarried females to males. There’s like 30 excess males for every 100 in the ages of 18-30. The BIGGEST lie ever told to men is that there is just as many females. That because y’all are counting grannies 50-85 JFL. In the 18-30 prime bracket it’s a sausage fest beyond comprehension. We need WW3.

I checked the census since that would have been a pretty big blackpill if so. You can see the data on Table 2 here:

https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf

Even in young people the sex ratio is pretty even. No major imbalance. Thus the gender imbalance is artificially created by Chad harems, not birth.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

"Single women" are still sharing few Chads/Chadlites. Fake map.

It's Agenda 2030, the foids sold humanity out to the elites in exchange for chad tingles...

 

[Vermilioncore]

It's over

 

[Deleted member 16455]

@SuperSaiyanGymcel

 

[Deleted member 9229]

@SuperSaiyanGymcel

Are you trying to convince me in sub8 theory

 

[Deleted member 16455]

Are you trying to convince me in sub8 theory

if you get the gist of sub 8 theory, then yeah.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

it's over for 99,99% of men

 

[starystulejarz]

Like there’s people on here that straight up believe that a 6/10 white guy can easily get ethnic woman to line up for them. JFL,

ethnics and nazimodcels are coping hard while in reality whitecels are real truecels especially slavic subhuman "whites"

it's over for 99,99% of men

I will be so happy when large percentages of normies are forced to choke on the blackpill.

i hope they will get blackpilled imagine 1000x more blackpilled people we have today on this site

 

[Deleted member 9229]

if you get the gist of sub 8 theory, then yeah.

>gist

 

[Deleted member 16455]

>gist

keep barking for me you utter dog

 

[ovrload]

6/10 PSL is very attractive and would slay IRL

Is that a 8/10 normie rating?

 

[Deleted member 15737]

Holy shit according to that map its insanely bad in florida

Ever been to Florida? I seen some of the most beautiful women I have ever seen when I was visiting there. Less landwhales than the Midwest and they all go to the beach and tan and run around in bathing suits. I can see them only wanting Chad and leaving men single.

 

[truthpill]

This is beautiful. We are no longer alone boys.

This is why the blackpill must be spread

 

[needsolution]

It's no better than 95/5 in 2019

 

[masterwizard]

Yeah I've been here a year and a half at least or something? We have to remember things aren't static, its always getting worse. 2019 is probably becoming the era of 99 1. Certainly 2020 will be.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Yeah I've been here a year and a half at least or something? We have to remember things aren't static, its always getting worse. 2019 is probably becoming the era of 99 1. Certainly 2020 will be.

we're looking at the mouse utopia, that's how bad it can get.

that experiment makes leftists incredibly angry btw, everyone who talks about it = school shooter incel

 

[masterwizard]

we're looking at the mouse utopia, that's how bad it can get.

that experiment makes leftists incredibly angry btw, everyone who talks about it = school shooter incel

Incel trait - knowing about this experiment. Its basically on par with knowing about JD Unwin.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Incel trait - knowing about this experiment. Its basically on par with knowing about JD Unwin.

we're looking at the mouse utopia, that's how bad it can get.

that experiment makes leftists incredibly angry btw, everyone who talks about it = school shooter incel

Best summary of the mouse utopia for anyone that hasn't read it:

How Mice Turned Their Private Paradise Into A Terrifying Dystopia

In 1972, animal behaviorist John Calhoun built a mouse paradise with beautiful buildings and limitless food. He introduced eight mice to the population. Two years later, the mice had created their own apocalypse. Here's why.

io9.gizmodo.com

Absolutely a necessary read to understand society. This is already happening to Japan and we are next.

 

[Hate_my_life]

This is unsettling.

 

[Bangkok or bust]

You have to have a decent job, 6/10, lean and 5'11 plus just to get a used-up overweight single mommie where I live. Its really that bad.

 

[Vlone]

It's because women continue to think they're entitled to higher and higher expectations. It's been happening by a wider margin each year now, it'll definitely be over for most of the zoomer gens

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Best summary of the mouse utopia for anyone that hasn't read it:

How Mice Turned Their Private Paradise Into A Terrifying Dystopia

In 1972, animal behaviorist John Calhoun built a mouse paradise with beautiful buildings and limitless food. He introduced eight mice to the population. Two years later, the mice had created their own apocalypse. Here's why.

io9.gizmodo.com

Absolutely a necessary read to understand society. This is already happening to Japan and we are next.

link to mouse study not working.

 

[78980n]

More incels = more troops for beta uprising

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

link to mouse study not working.

It should be. It can basically be understood as an inevitability of having all food and shelter needs met in the absence of natural predators. Population booms then "society" degrades, individuals disconnect and stop reproducing, and it collapses. Japan is following this trajectory now as we speak.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-rats-turned-their-private-paradise-into-a-terrifyin-1687584457

How Mice Turned Their Private Paradise Into A Terrifying Dystopia

In 1972, animal behaviorist John Calhoun built a mouse paradise with beautiful buildings and limitless food. He introduced eight mice to the population. Two years later, the mice had created their own apocalypse. Here's why.

Universe 25 was a giant box designed to be a rodent utopia. The trouble was, this utopia did not have a benevolent creator. John B. Calhoun had designed quite a few mouse environments before he got to the 25th one, and didn't expect to be watching a happy story. Divided into "main squares" and then subdivided into levels, with ramps going up to "apartments," the place looked great, and was always kept stocked with food, but its inhabitants were doomed from the get-go.

Universe 25 started out with eight mice, four males and four females. By day 560, the mouse population reached 2,200, and then steadily declined back down to unrecoverable extinction. At the peak population, most mice spent every living second in the company of hundreds of other mice. They gathered in the main squares, waiting to be fed and occasionally attacking each other. Few females carried pregnancies to term, and the ones that did seemed to simply forget about their babies. They'd move half their litter away from danger and forget the rest. Sometimes they'd drop and abandon a baby while they were carrying it.

The few secluded spaces housed a population Calhoun called, "the beautiful ones." Generally guarded by one male, the females—- and few males — inside the space didn't breed or fight or do anything but eat and groom and sleep. When the population started declining the beautiful ones were spared from violence and death, but had completely lost touch with social behaviors, including having sex or caring for their young.

In 1972, with the baby boomers coming of age in a ever-more-crowded world and reports of riots in the cities, Universe 25 looked like a Malthusian nightmare. It even acquired its own catchy name, "The Behavioral Sink." If starvation didn't kill everyone, people would destroy themselves. The best option was to flee to the country or the suburbs, where people had space and life was peaceful and natural.

Today, the experiment remains frightening, but the nature of the fear has changed. A recent study pointed out that Universe 25 was not, if looked at as a whole, too overcrowded. Pens, or "apartments" at the very end of each hallway had only one entrance and exit, making them easy to guard. This allowed more aggressive territorial males to limit the number mice in that pen, overcrowding the rest of the world, while isolating the few "beautiful ones" who lived there from normal society. Instead of a population problem, one could argue that Universe 25 had a fair distribution problem.

The fact remains that it had a problem, and one that eventually led to its destruction. If this behavior is shared by both mice and humans, can we escape Universe 25's fate?

 

[Emba]

Only Chad's are allowed in the dating market.

It should be. It can basically be understood as an inevitability of having all food and shelter needs met in the absence of natural predators. Population booms then "society" degrades, individuals disconnect and stop reproducing, and it collapses. Japan is following this trajectory now as we speak.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-rats-turned-their-private-paradise-into-a-terrifyin-1687584457

How Mice Turned Their Private Paradise Into A Terrifying Dystopia

In 1972, animal behaviorist John Calhoun built a mouse paradise with beautiful buildings and limitless food. He introduced eight mice to the population. Two years later, the mice had created their own apocalypse. Here's why.

Universe 25 was a giant box designed to be a rodent utopia. The trouble was, this utopia did not have a benevolent creator. John B. Calhoun had designed quite a few mouse environments before he got to the 25th one, and didn't expect to be watching a happy story. Divided into "main squares" and then subdivided into levels, with ramps going up to "apartments," the place looked great, and was always kept stocked with food, but its inhabitants were doomed from the get-go.

Universe 25 started out with eight mice, four males and four females. By day 560, the mouse population reached 2,200, and then steadily declined back down to unrecoverable extinction. At the peak population, most mice spent every living second in the company of hundreds of other mice. They gathered in the main squares, waiting to be fed and occasionally attacking each other. Few females carried pregnancies to term, and the ones that did seemed to simply forget about their babies. They'd move half their litter away from danger and forget the rest. Sometimes they'd drop and abandon a baby while they were carrying it.

The few secluded spaces housed a population Calhoun called, "the beautiful ones." Generally guarded by one male, the females—- and few males — inside the space didn't breed or fight or do anything but eat and groom and sleep. When the population started declining the beautiful ones were spared from violence and death, but had completely lost touch with social behaviors, including having sex or caring for their young.

In 1972, with the baby boomers coming of age in a ever-more-crowded world and reports of riots in the cities, Universe 25 looked like a Malthusian nightmare. It even acquired its own catchy name, "The Behavioral Sink." If starvation didn't kill everyone, people would destroy themselves. The best option was to flee to the country or the suburbs, where people had space and life was peaceful and natural.

Today, the experiment remains frightening, but the nature of the fear has changed. A recent study pointed out that Universe 25 was not, if looked at as a whole, too overcrowded. Pens, or "apartments" at the very end of each hallway had only one entrance and exit, making them easy to guard. This allowed more aggressive territorial males to limit the number mice in that pen, overcrowding the rest of the world, while isolating the few "beautiful ones" who lived there from normal society. Instead of a population problem, one could argue that Universe 25 had a fair distribution problem.

The fact remains that it had a problem, and one that eventually led to its destruction. If this behavior is shared by both mice and humans, can we escape Universe 25's fate?

Link work's for me! Great stuff... Except for being horrible.

 

[Deleted member 7573]

It should be. It can basically be understood as an inevitability of having all food and shelter needs met in the absence of natural predators. Population booms then "society" degrades, individuals disconnect and stop reproducing, and it collapses. Japan is following this trajectory now as we speak.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-rats-turned-their-private-paradise-into-a-terrifyin-1687584457

How Mice Turned Their Private Paradise Into A Terrifying Dystopia

In 1972, animal behaviorist John Calhoun built a mouse paradise with beautiful buildings and limitless food. He introduced eight mice to the population. Two years later, the mice had created their own apocalypse. Here's why.

Universe 25 was a giant box designed to be a rodent utopia. The trouble was, this utopia did not have a benevolent creator. John B. Calhoun had designed quite a few mouse environments before he got to the 25th one, and didn't expect to be watching a happy story. Divided into "main squares" and then subdivided into levels, with ramps going up to "apartments," the place looked great, and was always kept stocked with food, but its inhabitants were doomed from the get-go.

Universe 25 started out with eight mice, four males and four females. By day 560, the mouse population reached 2,200, and then steadily declined back down to unrecoverable extinction. At the peak population, most mice spent every living second in the company of hundreds of other mice. They gathered in the main squares, waiting to be fed and occasionally attacking each other. Few females carried pregnancies to term, and the ones that did seemed to simply forget about their babies. They'd move half their litter away from danger and forget the rest. Sometimes they'd drop and abandon a baby while they were carrying it.

The few secluded spaces housed a population Calhoun called, "the beautiful ones." Generally guarded by one male, the females—- and few males — inside the space didn't breed or fight or do anything but eat and groom and sleep. When the population started declining the beautiful ones were spared from violence and death, but had completely lost touch with social behaviors, including having sex or caring for their young.

In 1972, with the baby boomers coming of age in a ever-more-crowded world and reports of riots in the cities, Universe 25 looked like a Malthusian nightmare. It even acquired its own catchy name, "The Behavioral Sink." If starvation didn't kill everyone, people would destroy themselves. The best option was to flee to the country or the suburbs, where people had space and life was peaceful and natural.

Today, the experiment remains frightening, but the nature of the fear has changed. A recent study pointed out that Universe 25 was not, if looked at as a whole, too overcrowded. Pens, or "apartments" at the very end of each hallway had only one entrance and exit, making them easy to guard. This allowed more aggressive territorial males to limit the number mice in that pen, overcrowding the rest of the world, while isolating the few "beautiful ones" who lived there from normal society. Instead of a population problem, one could argue that Universe 25 had a fair distribution problem.

The fact remains that it had a problem, and one that eventually led to its destruction. If this behavior is shared by both mice and humans, can we escape Universe 25's fate?

But in our real dystopia we are the "beautiful ones" of the experiment, ironical isn't it?

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

But in our real dystopia we are the "beautiful ones" of the experiment, ironical isn't it?

Actually I think the beautiful ones are the women who are opting out of the dating market altogether. It is a growing market segment and what will totally destroy the dating market completely. "If I can't have Chad, I won't date at all." What happens when women will only accept GigaChad and there aren't enough to go around? Women will spend all their time preening and posting pics on Instagram while remaining completely separate from society. Maybe some of the beautiful ones could also be gymcels who get pumped up and yet have nothing to show for it in the end.

If you look at the trends, I believe that female trend will go higher soon as well. That is how I believe Japan got to such massive celibacy levels. When the women stop dating at all, the men are just cut out.

Personally, I think we are more like the valueless masses muddling around in the middle of the pen languishing and scurrying around aimlessly until death. But who knows for sure. It could be interpreted a number of ways probably. All I can say for sure is we are all fucked.

 

[Deleted member 17997]

It's over for many men.

High iq