Story The biggest turncoat I ever knew

[Fontaine]

I was active in a small forum a few years ago where there was this member, call him Lucas. Lucas was 30 years old and extremely into alt-right / reactionary politics. Very misogynistic too. It seemed you could trust him because he was smart and learned, quoting stuff from Julius Evola or René Guénon.

One day, after years of inceldom, he got lucky with internet dating and found himself a girl, an older girl with far lower SMV than him, but still a girl.

The moment it happened, he started to post increasingly bluepill stuff about women, and then about politics / society / life in general. Last I heard of him, he was campaigning against Trump and defending Angela Merkel.

Ever since this episode, I've never been able to take politics seriously anymore, because your political beliefs are obviously extremely linked to your emotional state. There is no "truth" in politics. Politics is just an evolutionary tactic used by monkeys to gain higher status. A very low status man will lean extremist (communist, alt-right...) while a normie or high status man will lean normie, because his goal is no longer casting down the system but getting bigger benefits from it.

Does "idealism" exist in politics? I don't think so, because to really care about the happiness of other people, you must be happy and accomplished yourself first. This is an absolute prerequisite to avoid the temptation of egoism. And very few people are actually happy and accomplished.

When someone says "Angela Merkel is ruining Germany", what he really means is "Angela Merkel won't give me the status I deserve as a white man. And all these young immigrants will make me even more incel".

Pure idealism only exists in fairy tales about knights, heroes and crusaders. The funny thing is, even knights, heroes and crusaders were self-interested. Glory, salvation of their soul, you name it.

 

[Jockcel]

Immigration should be limited to those who really need asylum: people with chronic sickness not curable in home country, war refugees, political refugees, people who used to starve, etc. Most refugees in Europe were actually quite well-off and healthy in their home countries, be it in Africa or Asia. This is the right way to solve things - not complete rejection of refugees.

 

[Fontaine]

Immigration should be limited to those who really need asylum: people with chronic sickness not curable in home country, war refugees, political refugees, people who used to starve, etc. Most refugees in Europe were actually quite well-off and healthy in their home countries, be it in Africa or Asia. This is the right way to solve things - not complete rejection of refugees.

Who cares? Why would a happy, beautiful, non-incel man with a good career, friends and pleasing hobbies care about immigration to Germany?

Most refugees have jobs by now and are integrated. Most of alt-righters are NEETs who would be incapable of screwing a lightbulb. They are mogged on all fronts by Jaweed and then claim they chose this situation out of a refusal to support the system. Bullshit. You're just a loser using racism as a cope. What you don't want to admit is that you're deeply afraid of the additional competition for jobs and women.

 

[Deleted member 1617]

Immigration should be limited to those who really need asylum: people with chronic sickness not curable in home country, war refugees, political refugees, people who used to starve, etc. Most refugees in Europe were actually quite well-off and healthy in their home countries, be it in Africa or Asia. This is the right way to solve things - not complete rejection of refugees.

 

[Deleted member 1617]

and incelqueers will still portray us as "alt-right fat white neckbeards" when half the forum is ethnic and most people here do not give a shit about politics

 

[EVILcel]

You’re pretty much ended politics for me OP, thanks

 

[Fontaine]

You’re pretty much ended politics for me OP, thanks

I'm glad I did, because my obsession with politics consumed my youth and I got nothing out of it. Politics is poison. Men of olden times had understood this, hence hereditary monarchy.

 

[EVILcel]

I'm glad I did, because my obsession with politics consumed my youth and I got nothing out of it. Politics is poison. Men of olden times had understood this, hence hereditary monarchy.

I coped hard with Trump, after that died down I pretty much realized it was all bs, you worded it very well, everyone should read this

 

[not_here_4_points]

Somewhat agree, somewhat disagree. Yes, politics is a cope but even for normies. It's basically a distracting team sport. Now anyway. But governance and civil service actually used to actually mean something more practical than it does now because community and culture meant something, largely because the people had the sense to keep foreigners out. It wasn't just about single men's value, it was about an entire society's. That was all lost.

 

[Deleted member 1983]

this is why i avoid having a political opinion altogether, i could give less then 2 shits whos leading government, because either way the low class poor males like me are fucked.

 

[PrinceOfCope]

Fontaine might actually be the highest IQ regular poster on this site.

 

[Letmego]

and incelqueers will still portray us as "alt-right fat white neckbeards" when half the forum is ethnic and most people here do not give a shit about politics

Exactly. They have to in order to try to virtue signal Tyrone, Chang, etc. It benefits the sjw cuntrags to portray us as angry white men completely based in political ideology.

 

[UnfortunatelyINCEL98]

and incelqueers will still portray us as "alt-right fat white neckbeards" when half the forum is ethnic and most people here do not give a shit about politics

 

[Letmego]

I'm glad I did, because my obsession with politics consumed my youth and I got nothing out of it. Politics is poison. Men of olden times had understood this, hence hereditary monarchy.

Beautifully put.

 

[th62eathhts2]

Ever since this episode, I've never been able to take politics seriously anymore, because your political beliefs are obviously extremely linked to your emotional state. There is no "truth" in politics. Politics is just an evolutionary tactic used by monkeys to gain higher status.

I was a typical California liberal, slightly left of mao. I stopped when i realized all these people are just in it for self interest. I was so disgusted that they weren't really virtuous. I decided that if everyone just acts in their self interest i might as well too.

 

[Fontaine]

Fontaine might actually be the highest IQ regular poster on this site.

Thanks. I may actually try to publish books / academic papers about all this stuff at some point in my life, but I am lazy and for now this forum is the quickest route to an audience.

The link between physical attractiveness, happiness and political ideas definitely deserves way more attention. A blog that dwells on the topic is http://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com (very high IQ despite the braindead name). It treats every political movement in extremely darwinistic terms. Though it mostly talks about China nowadays.

 

[Redpill Robert]

The Alt-right: identity politics for unfuckable white dudes.

 

[Indari]

campaigning against trump doesnt mean shit. trump supporters are edgy retards or literal retards