The big misconception about sex with whores

[Jabba The Hutt]

So I have lurked this forum for quite a while now, and it seems to me the biggest argument incels have
against using prostitutes is that they are not into you, and so the sex will not be as enjoyable as with a girlfriend. (who in theory should be attracted to you... now obviously we know that this is just a fantasy for most incels, they will at best get a betabuxx situation, with the woman merely tolerating them for financial gain)

This is a very gynocentric viewpoint, because it indicates the pleasure of the female is the most important aspect of the sex.

Now I want to make the opposite argument:

Sex with a whore is actually MORE enjoyable, because she doesn't really want to have sex with you.

Lets consider the following 2 situations:

• a girlfriend that loves you
• a sexslave that is in your secret dungeon. chained to a bed. you can use her whenever you please. (similar to the very hot slave Leia scenario in Star Wars III)

Now, which situation would be preferable?

If you were brainwashed by the gyncentric/feministic ZeitGeist, you would say the first.

If you still have some masculine essence left in you, you would say the second.

But what exactly makes the 2nd option preferable?

One word: Power

In the first situation, it is still the decision of the woman to have sex with you. So you are not having all the power in that situation. In the 2nd situation, you have 100% of the power.

And having power itself can be very arousing.


Quite a lot of times when I had sex with a prostitute, it was visible that she did not like it. She was forced to do it because she needed the money.
For example once a whore didn't really want to suck on my dick so she just licked on my foot for a while (probably hoping I would let her get away with it) so I just took her head with my hand and forced my dick into her whore mouth.
Very life affirming feeling.

Now you might argue, you need to be very low inhibition to do this, and I would agree with that. But I wasn't always that low inhibition. it took me a lot of practice to get there.

TLDR:

Prostitutes not enjoying sex with you, can be very arousing. If you have the right mindset and power itself arouses you. And you can train / reprogram yourself to have this mindset.


Now if someone wants to argue this is all a cope, and being loved would be much better: maybe. But you will never be loved anyways. So you can keep coping for the rest of your life, or get some pleasure that is actually available to you.

 

[Fat Link]

Hey @IncelKing I think your boy blkpillpress has returned on a new name.

And what’s the funniest thing about my idea here is that I had that thought before even reading OP’s very first post on the site.

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

Na I'm not blkpillpress I swear

I I'm 37 years old and have whoremaxxed for over 15 years.

In the beginning I was very gynocentric as well and wanted the whores to like me.

But over time, my mindset changed, and people like blkpillpress and many other online people also influenced my mindset a lot.

So I don't say changing yourself is easy, but it's definitelly possible and I'm the proof of it.

These days I don't even desire a traditional relationship anymore.. all my fantasies revolve around having harems of sex slaves.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

So I have lurked this forum for quite a while now, and it seems to me the biggest argument incels have
against using prostitutes is that they are not into you, and so the sex will not be as enjoyable as with a girlfriend. (who in theory should be attracted to you... now obviously we know that this is just a fantasy for most incels, they will at best get a betabuxx situation, with the woman merely tolerating them for financial gain)

This is a very gynocentric viewpoint, because it indicates the pleasure of the female is the most important aspect of the sex.

Now I want to make the opposite argument:

Sex with a whore is actually MORE enjoyable, because she doesn't really want to have sex with you.

Lets consider the following 2 situations:

• a girlfriend that loves you
• a sexslave that is in your secret dungeon. chained to a bed. you can use her whenever you please. (similar to the very hot slave Leia scenario in Star Wars III)

Now, which situation would be preferable?

If you were brainwashed by the gyncentric/feministic ZeitGeist, you would say the first.

If you still have some masculine essence left in you, you would say the second.

But what exactly makes the 2nd option preferable?

One word: Power

In the first situation, it is still the decision of the woman to have sex with you. So you are not having all the power in that situation. In the 2nd situation, you have 100% of the power.

And having power itself can be very arousing.


Quite a lot of times when I had sex with a prostitute, it was visible that she did not like it. She was forced to do it because she needed the money.
For example once a whore didn't really want to suck on my dick so she just licked on my foot for a while (probably hoping I would let her get away with it) so I just took her head with my hand and forced my dick into her whore mouth.
Very life affirming feeling.

Now you might argue, you need to be very low inhibition to do this, and I would agree with that. But I wasn't always that low inhibition. it took me a lot of practice to get there.

TLDR:

Prostitutes not enjoying sex with you, can be very arousing. If you have the right mindset and power itself arouses you. And you can train / reprogram yourself to have this mindset.


Now if someone wants to argue this is all a cope, and being loved would be much better: maybe. But you will never be loved anyways. So you can keep coping for the rest of your life, or get some pleasure that is actually available to you.

I mean the foid has to fuck you if she depends on the money. Yeah, there's no real attraction beyond the transaction but if sex is all you want then at least that's a way to get it.

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

I mean the foid has to fuck you if she depends on the money. Yeah, there's no real attraction beyond the transaction but if sex is all you want then at least that's a way to get it.

as blackpiller you should know that a woman will never love you anways. so getting "only sex" is the only realistic thing you will get in this life.
you are like the kid that doesn't get the big toy, and now you refuse even the small toy.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

as blackpiller you should know that a woman will never love you anways. so getting "only sex" is the only realistic thing you will get in this life.
you are like the kid that doesn't get the big toy, and now you refuse even the small toy.

Yeah, but the thing is getting sex always involve paying the foid in some way whether it's prostitution or betabuxxing. It's always a transaction and it's the only option.

 

[buried_alive]

it seems to me the biggest argument incels have
against using prostitutes is that they are not into you, and so the sex will not be as enjoyable as with a girlfriend. (who in theory should be attracted to you... now obviously we know that this is just a fantasy for most incels, they will at best get a betabuxx situation, with the woman merely tolerating them for financial gain)

I don't think this is true. The main problem with escortcelling is that it reinforces the tutorial mode women have. And some incels don't want just sex from women, they want the other parts of a relationship too.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Ya so sex is the only thing that matters

u proved his point?

Well, if you want sex but aren't Chad then that's the only option. You can say it's cucked because you're still funding a whore's lifestyle but at least you get to actually have sex unlike paying for OnlyFans.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

at the end of the day

love for a women is conditional even for "chad"

I dont see the problem

Yeah, it's a fantasy that's been socialized into us at the end of the day.

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

I don't think this is true. The main problem with escortcelling is that it reinforces the tutorial mode women have. And some incels don't want just sex from women, they want the other parts of a relationship too.

women have tutorial mode anyways. you fucking a whore doesn't change that. Society will not change in your lifetime, doesn't matter if you fuck whores or not. So you might as well have some fun in your finite life

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

Yeah, it's a fantasy that's been socialized into us at the end of the day.

exactly. you got brainwashed with the idea that "love" is very important.

once you realize the nature of your belief. it loses its strength on you.

I had to reprogram myself as well, and it wasn't easy. but it's just a matter of time and experience.

Today I get great enjoyment of using women as fuck-doll for rent and if they are disgusted with me that makes it even more arousing.

My idol is Jabba the Hutt, the most ugly creature in the universe, shamelessly raping Princess Leia and using her for his pleasure.

 

[wei#3959]

Just wanna fuck already I’m almost a wizard

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

exactly. you got brainwashed with the idea that "love" is very important.

once you realize the nature of your belief. it loses its strength on you.

I had to reprogram myself as well, and it wasn't easy. but it's just a matter of time and experience.

Today I get great enjoyment of using women as fuck-doll for rent and if they are disgusted with me that makes it even more arousing.

My idol is Jabba the Hutt, the most ugly creature in the universe, shamelessly raping Princess Leia and using her for his pleasure.

Yeah, you do remind me of @BlkPillPres except you actually have experience escortcelling. He said that he only fucked an escort once and planned to do it regularly in the future once he moneymaxxed.

But yeah, I'm done wanting a relationship. If it wasn't for the black pill I'd still be endlessly looksmaxxing in vain.

 

[I want to believe]

If a foid wanted me, that would be more arousing to me.

 

[genma]

Star Wars III

You call yourself a fan??

 

[I want to believe]

i want a foid to be interested in me so I can break her fucking heart and traumatize her for the rest of her cunt life

I mean I want to see the desire in her eyes.

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

elaborate on using women as fuck doll part

well a few examples come to mind:

• a whore said "no kissing!" (she used the pandemic as excuse) but so I started to fuck her in missionary, and then I pinned her hands behind her head so she was totally pinned, and then kissed her anyways. Feeling super life affirming!
• the whore was kind of licking my leg/balls, but she tried to avoid actually sucking my dick. So I just took her head in my hand and shoved my dick into her mouth and then just fucked her mouth basically

but in general. it just means getting out of your head and focusing fully on the physical sensations, and you kind of don't see her as a person anymore

 

[andinocel]

I used to believe this too (that a foid has to be into you), but I escortmaxx on occasion (when moneys good) and I've abandoned that stupid notion. The more I deal with foids (everyday foids, not only whores), the less respect I have for them; worrying what foids think of you is like worrying what your fleshlight thinks

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

You call yourself a fan??

na StarWars overall is quite gynocentric and soy.
But I really liked the slave Leia scene in SW III. Fapped many times to it.

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

????

were they escorts?

escorts & prostitutes

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

escorts & prostitutes

Do they wear heels?

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

did the whores enjoy it?

Or were they pissed after

well I'm sure they didn't enjoy it.
sometimes they protest a little bit but they cannot really do much.

once I even pulled the hair of a whore while fucking her doggy style.. she screamed "no" but I continued to pull.. then she got really angry so I stopped.
But then I told her she needs to be more nice *lol*.
And I fucked her a 2nd time after that.

you have to put yourself into the mind of the whore: she could think you are a legit psycho who would kill her if she starts to fight... so they want to avoid that.

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

Do they wear heels?

In Austria we even have "FKK" brothels.

It's basically a big area with pool & Sauna, and you have many Stacy level whores walking around totally naked, only with high heels & lingery. very life affirming.

But I also do outcalls (the whore comes to your place).

This is also very life affirming, because I tell them what they should wear (which outfit) so you command them like they are your slaves. Very life affirming.

 

[buried_alive]

women have tutorial mode anyways. you fucking a whore doesn't change that. Society will not change in your lifetime, doesn't matter if you fuck whores or not. So you might as well have some fun in your finite life

This makes sense, but personally I really hate the idea of foids getting filthy rich just by existing. And doing this over lonely men. It's predatory. This is even worse with e-whores because the victims don't even get bad sex.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

In Austria we even have "FKK" brothels.

It's basically a big area with pool & Sauna, and you have many Stacy level whores walking around totally naked, only with high heels & lingery. very life affirming.

And so in those type of brothels is it like am all-you-can-ear buffet where you get to fuck whichever foid you want?

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

And so in those type of brothels is it like am all-you-can-ear buffet where you get to fuck whichever foid you want?

Na it works like this:

You pay an entry fee (90€) and then inside you have to pay each whore you fuck. 30 minutes with sex+blowjob is 100€.

So normally I stay a few hours, and fuck 3 whores for a total damage of around ~400€

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Na it works like this:

You pay an entry fee (90€) and then inside you have to pay each whore you fuck. 30 minutes with sex+blowjob is 100€.

So normally I stay a few hours, and fuck 3 whores for a total damage of around ~400€

So you pay twice?

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

So you pay twice?

what do you mean twice? you pay the entry fee. and once you are inside. you pay each whore you fuck. so you could just go inside and don't fuck any whores, or fuck many whores.

 

[lifefuel]

Welp looks like whoremaxxing is the way. This forum is unnecessary now. Delete it.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

what do you mean twice? you pay the entry fee. and once you are inside. you pay each whore you fuck. so you could just go inside and don't fuck any whores, or fuck many whores.

I'm curious, even if some of the foids are hesitant sometimes where there some foids who seemed to enjoyed it or did all of them felt they were "forced"? Were they all young foids in their late teens or 20s and were they ethnic or Eastern European?

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

I'm curious, even if some of the foids are hesitant sometimes where there some foids who seemed to enjoyed it or did all of them felt they were "forced"? Were they all young foids in their late teens or 20s and were they ethnic or Eastern European?

well some seemed to enjoy it more, but that is just because they were better at acting.
most of them were from EE and between age 20-30

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

did the whores enjoy the sex when you would exert yourself

or did they get pissed off after

I don't think any of them enjoyed it.
some are just better at acting than others.

 

[lifefuel]

Cope

 

[Heartache1080GTX]

Nie Looksmaximus impersonation. Very believable, but still LARP.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

well some seemed to enjoy it more, but that is just because they were better at acting.
most of them were from EE and between age 20-30

Have you fucked escorts who were older than you?

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

Have you fucked escorts who were older than you?

yeah but I prefer younger obviously

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

Nie Looksmaximus impersonation. Very believable, but still LARP.

dude you can start doing the same. get an average income job. and then you are ready to go.
Move to either Germany/Netherlands/Switzerland/Austria.
those are the best 1st countries for whoremaxxing.

 

[Stupid Clown]

So I have lurked this forum for quite a while now, and it seems to me the biggest argument incels have
against using prostitutes is that they are not into you, and so the sex will not be as enjoyable as with a girlfriend. (who in theory should be attracted to you... now obviously we know that this is just a fantasy for most incels, they will at best get a betabuxx situation, with the woman merely tolerating them for financial gain)

This is a very gynocentric viewpoint, because it indicates the pleasure of the female is the most important aspect of the sex.

Now I want to make the opposite argument:

Sex with a whore is actually MORE enjoyable, because she doesn't really want to have sex with you.

Lets consider the following 2 situations:

• a girlfriend that loves you
• a sexslave that is in your secret dungeon. chained to a bed. you can use her whenever you please. (similar to the very hot slave Leia scenario in Star Wars III)

Now, which situation would be preferable?

If you were brainwashed by the gyncentric/feministic ZeitGeist, you would say the first.

If you still have some masculine essence left in you, you would say the second.

But what exactly makes the 2nd option preferable?

One word: Power

In the first situation, it is still the decision of the woman to have sex with you. So you are not having all the power in that situation. In the 2nd situation, you have 100% of the power.

And having power itself can be very arousing.


Quite a lot of times when I had sex with a prostitute, it was visible that she did not like it. She was forced to do it because she needed the money.
For example once a whore didn't really want to suck on my dick so she just licked on my foot for a while (probably hoping I would let her get away with it) so I just took her head with my hand and forced my dick into her whore mouth.
Very life affirming feeling.

Now you might argue, you need to be very low inhibition to do this, and I would agree with that. But I wasn't always that low inhibition. it took me a lot of practice to get there.

TLDR:

Prostitutes not enjoying sex with you, can be very arousing. If you have the right mindset and power itself arouses you. And you can train / reprogram yourself to have this mindset.


Now if someone wants to argue this is all a cope, and being loved would be much better: maybe. But you will never be loved anyways. So you can keep coping for the rest of your life, or get some pleasure that is actually available to you.

I agree that women not enjoying sex is by theory more enjoyable but tbh you can do this better by taking advantage of poor desperate foids overseas and not giving them so much money.

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

I agree that women not enjoying sex is by theory more enjoyable but tbh you can do this better by taking advantage of poor desperate foids overseas and not giving them so much money.

Thailand maxxing is my next plan for sure.
Also the whores in Europe seem to get more expensive lately.

 

[lemon21]

I have a question. Do you had bad experiences in your years of whoremaxxing?. Also how true is that you can fuck stacies being completely honest? I saw some fine looking ladies but i'm doubtfull if they're even real

 

[Stupid Clown]

Thailand maxxing is my next plan for sure.
Also the whores in Europe seem to get more expensive lately.

Based.

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

I have a question. Do you had bad experiences in your years of whoremaxxing?. Also how true is that you can fuck stacies being completely honest? I saw some fine looking ladies but i'm doubtfull if they're even real

yes I had bad experiences as well.
sometimes the whore was very mechanical.
or she didn't look as good as on the pictures (that happens quite a lot)
and in the beginning when the whore wasn't into it... it sucked.
I only developed this mindset with a lot of experience and introspection.

Well.. of course not every whore is a Stacy. most that I fucked are around the 6-7 level.
but some Stacies as well.
I would say maybe 20% were actually Stacies

 

[Qwertyuiop99]

Why some didn't want to suck your dick?

 

[Dravidiancel]

Based ,you should lead the way for virgin youngcels like me

 

[starcrapoo]

I've had one latina escort give me some serious attitude one time. Just a really nasty, mean, hostile, bad attitude.

I didn't care because that just made me wanna fuck her even more and humiliate her.

I can imagine the serious humiliation, shame, and disgust she felt while having a ricecel gook pound away at her pussy. Which I did. Mercilessly. I'm someone that in real life, she wouldn't even have noticed and if she did, would be very dismissive, cold, or flat out bitchy/hostile to for no reason. Because thats what females naturally do to low value males. They act in that manner to let you know to not even dare try hitting on them. Their way of "putting you in your place".

You'd think whores would be polite or nice to their clients to get them to come back. Nope. Not this ricecel. I know this from this experience and a few others. Its the same old pushy attitude they give to speed the session up or just attitude in general.

I even got disgust from a few fob noodlewhores as a ricecel. FOB noodlewhores mind you. Not even Asian American women. I can only imagine the extreme disgust and or refusal to service me from Asian American whores.

With all of that said, even though I said that I quit escortmaxxing, I feel that I still need it every now and then. Maybe once every 1-3 years is fine.
Either way, every weekend I am still alone wishing I was not.

 

[NorthernWind]

There is a difference between prostitute and sex slave. You cannot fully dominate prostitute.

 

[MentallyCelibate]

this is cope

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

Why some didn't want to suck your dick?

well I guess because it's disgusting to have someone's dick in your mouth when you don't find them attractive?

There is a difference between prostitute and sex slave. You cannot fully dominate prostitute.

that's true. but you can still get pretty close to it.

 

[InMemoriam]

Hey @IncelKing I think your boy blkpillpress has returned on a new name.

And what’s the funniest thing about my idea here is that I had that thought before even reading OP’s very first post on the site.

i don't see bold colored text everywhere, it seems that pres has found a way to cure his autism at last

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

i don't see bold colored text everywhere, it seems that pres has found a way to cure his autism at last

honestly the user BlkPillPress was quite smart but I'm definitelly smarter than him.

For example he made this weird argument "love doesn't matter it's only chemicals in your brain"

which is true, but still a stupid argument because you could apply it to everything:

- sex doesn't matter it's only chemicals in your brain
- validation doesn't matter it's only chemicals in your brain
- being rich doesn't matter it's only chemicals in the brain.

so he used this argument as a cope (because he could get sex but could not get love)

I'm more realistic. As incels, we are missing out on love and we will never experience it. there is no need to sugar coat it. But we should still maximize the pleasure we can get in this life. and hence I created this thread.