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Juan Esquivel-Quintana is a citizen of Mexico who has lived in the United States as a legal permanent resident since he was 12 years old. He was not an incel; he was a normie. See, at the age of 20, Quintana had sex with his 16-year-old girlfriend.

That was illegal under California law: when it comes to statutory rape, California law is much stricter than that of most other states. Cal. Penal Code Ann. §261.5 sets the age of consent at 18, with a close-in-age exemption of only three years. Only seven of the 50 states set the age of consent at 18; the other states set it at 16 or 17.

So Quintana was arrested, convicted, and spent a few weeks in a county jail. Afterwards, he moved to Michigan for a fresh start. But in 2013, ICE commenced deportation proceedings. Federal immigration law allows the U.S. government to deport any and all aliens who have been convicted of an "aggravated felony", whether in state or federal court. Under the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, the "sexual abuse of a minor" is an "aggravated felony". See 8 U.S.C. §1101(43)(A). If Quintana were deported, he would have been permanently banned from the United States.

Quintana's lawyers argued that statutory rape—at least in the particular circumstances of his case—was not an "aggravated felony". They pointed out that Quintana's conduct was in fact legal in most states and under federal criminal law, so their client wasn't deserving of deportation. But the Board of Immigration Appeals disagreed, and on appeal, the Sixth Circuit applied Chevron deference and held that Quintana was eligible for deportation.

So Quintana, whose case was now taken by Stanford Law professor Jeffrey L. Fisher, appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. The central question was this: Did a conviction of statutory rape under California law constitute "sexual abuse of a minor" for the purposes of federal immigration law?

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And exactly five years ago, on May 30th, 2017, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously answered no. In a defeat for the Trump administration, Justice Clarence Thomas reasoned that the Court would have to consider not the specific circumstances of a criminal conviction, but whether the conduct proscribed by statute, at minimum, fits within the generic federal definition of a corresponding aggravated felony.

Thomas wrote that
[T]he conduct criminalized under this provision would be, at a minimum, consensual sexual intercourse between a victim who is almost 18 and a perpetrator who just turned 21. Regardless of the actual facts of petitioner’s crime, we must presume that his conviction was based on acts that were no more criminal than that. If those acts do not constitute sexual abuse of a minor under the INA, then petitioner was not convicted of an aggravated felony and is not, on that basis, removable.

Applying his originalist twist on statutory interpretation, because a significant majority of states had set the age of consent at 16 back when the Act was passed in 1996, Thomas concluded that Quintana was not eligible for removal from the United States on the basis of his statutory rape conviction in California. Not only that, but Thomas held that the generic federal definition of "sexual abuse of a minor" did not apply to convictions of statutory rape in states where the age of consent was higher than 16.

You can read the full decision of Esquivel-Quintana v. Sessions, 137 S. Ct. 1562. (2017), here.

@Wizard32 @Edmund_Kemper @RoastieBeef
 
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Age of consent laws don't make sense and they never will, because it's about emotion not logic, and it's really about keeping low tier males from having access to young, compliant beautiful women. Because if these men have access to that, there won't be any men around to do garbage pick up duty, and clean the streets of cock carousel riders that are ready to "settle down" in their late 20's and 30's.
 
Age of consent laws don't make sense and they never will, because it's about emotion not logic, and it's really about keeping low tier males from having access to young, compliant beautiful women. Because if these men have access to that, there won't be any men around to do garbage pick up duty, and clean the streets of cock carousel riders that are ready to "settle down" in their late 20's and 30's.
Man, I don't see you around as often these days. How's it going?
 
Age of consent laws don't make sense and they never will, because it's about emotion not logic, and it's really about keeping low tier males from having access to young, compliant beautiful women. Because if these men have access to that, there won't be any men around to do garbage pick up duty, and clean the streets of cock carousel riders that are ready to "settle down" in their late 20's and 30's.
Late 20's? Some settle down in their early 20's and keep riding the cock carousel. Especially if they come from money and can work in part time capacities.
 
Age of consent laws don't make sense and they never will, because it's about emotion not logic, and it's really about keeping low tier males from having access to young, compliant beautiful women. Because if these men have access to that, there won't be any men around to do garbage pick up duty, and clean the streets of cock carousel riders that are ready to "settle down" in their late 20's and 30's.
True. I can understand making it illegal for an adult to have sex with a prepubescent child (and it should), but by the time they are in their teens they are already seeking sex. I do believe by the time they are in their teens they are physically closer to be an adult, and know what sex is.
 
True. I can understand making it illegal for an adult to have sex with a prepubescent child (and it should), but by the time they are in their teens they are already seeking sex. I do believe by the time they are in their teens they are physically closer to be an adult, and know what sex is.
Yes BUT - I don't think any of this is the real issue. Making it illegal is one things, but what do you think the punishment should be? It's the level and severity of punishment that could be somewhat out of sync for this sort of things, don't you think?
 
Age of consent laws don't make sense and they never will, because it's about emotion not logic, and it's really about keeping low tier males from having access to young, compliant beautiful women. Because if these men have access to that, there won't be any men around to do garbage pick up duty, and clean the streets of cock carousel riders that are ready to "settle down" in their late 20's and 30's.
 
Yes BUT - I don't think any of this is the real issue. Making it illegal is one things, but what do you think the punishment should be? It's the level and severity of punishment that could be somewhat out of sync for this sort of things, don't you think?
I still think child pornography (and by that I mean young children being exploited and forcefully raped, not teens taking naked pictures of themselves) and molestation of young children should still be severely punished.

But when it comes to teens who already know what they're doing, it's ridiculous to put that person into jail.
 
Man, I don't see you around as often these days. How's it going?
I'm hanging in there, when shit is going well you'll know a few months after I've settled in, because I'll definitely be making a brag thread lol.
(Insert video of me spanking a bitch with some blkpillpres shorts on :feelskek:)
The ban will be worth it at that point, because I won't be coming back anyways lol.
 
@CCPcel so they called this a non-aggravated felony?

I don't even know what aggravated means tbh in legal contexts
 
Age of consent laws don't make sense and they never will, because it's about emotion not logic,
A 17 year old foid can give a BJ to a 16 year old Chad while getting pounded from behind by 18 year old Tyrone. That's just healthy sexual exploration and her taking control of her sexuality. But for some reason, if she holds hands with a 29 year old man, she's scarred for life and will always need therapy.

Of course, no one can rationally explain this.
 
Age of consent laws don't make sense and they never will, because it's about emotion not logic, and it's really about keeping low tier males from having access to young, compliant beautiful women. Because if these men have access to that, there won't be any men around to do garbage pick up duty, and clean the streets of cock carousel riders that are ready to "settle down" in their late 20's and 30's.
There was a case in Illinois where the AOC is 17. A 32 year old man was banging his 17 year old girlfriend. The mother of the girl didn't like it (she would have been just fine with her daughter having a train ran on her by 16 and 17 year old Tyrones) so she went to the cops. The cops said that since the AOC was 17, there was nothing they could do.

But did they stop there? No. Agecucks were determined to nail him on something. How dare he want a 17 year old foid over a strong, independent age appropriate 38 year old roastie. Well, he had made a recording of him and his 17 year old girlfriend having sex. Even though the Illinois AOC is 17, it still was considered child pornography since you have to be 18 to be recorded having sex

He was arrested and convicted on charges of producing child porn. The case went all the way to the Illinois Supreme Court and the majority of the justices voted to let the conviction stand. I think it was like 5-3.

So even if your girlfriend is the AOC, if she’s under 18 (maybe even 21) and you are significantly older than her, be sure that age cuck law enforcement will try to get you on anything they can.
 
There was a case in Illinois where the AOC is 17. A 32 year old man was banging his 17 year old girlfriend. The mother of the girl didn't like it (she would have been just fine with her daughter having a train ran on her by 16 and 17 year old Tyrones) so she went to the cops. The cops said that since the AOC was 17, there was nothing they could do.

But did they stop there? No. Agecucks were determined to nail him on something. How dare he want a 17 year old foid over a strong, independent age appropriate 38 year old roastie. Well, he had made a recording of him and his 17 year old girlfriend having sex. Even though the Illinois AOC is 17, it still was considered child pornography since you have to be 18 to be recorded having sex

He was arrested and convicted on charges of producing child porn. The case went all the way to the Illinois Supreme Court and the majority of the justices voted to let the conviction stand. I think it was like 5-3.

So even if your girlfriend is the AOC, if she’s under 18 (maybe even 21) and you are significantly older than her, be sure that age cuck law enforcement will try to get you on anything they can.

The law is actually pretty clear on child pornography. The normie has only himself to blame for recording himself having sex with a 17-year-old. He can go fuck himself LMAO :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
 
Wow, Clarence Thomas is really based. Are you a fan of his @CCPcel?
 
Wow, Clarence Thomas is really based. Are you a fan of his @CCPcel?
No, Clarence Thomas' opinions are actually kind of nutjobby in most cases

this was a unanimous opinion
 
I'm not even reading it because I don't want to be mad. Fuck the retarded fucking "justice" systems around the world. Fuck living in a world that punishes men for entertaining their natural fucking instincts to have sex with fertile foids, while also allowing degeneracy like putting ACTUAL children on tranny drugs and chopping off girl's tits.

Mutilating the tits of a confused 16 year old girl=Progressive and good.
Having sex with a girl who has been fertile for years=EVIL PEDO SCUM PUT IN DA WOODCHIPPER!!!

Fucking gay faggot earth only getting worse and worse :feelsclown::feelsclown::feelsclown::feelsclown::feelsclown::feelsclown:
 
There was a case in Illinois where the AOC is 17. A 32 year old man was banging his 17 year old girlfriend. The mother of the girl didn't like it (she would have been just fine with her daughter having a train ran on her by 16 and 17 year old Tyrones) so she went to the cops. The cops said that since the AOC was 17, there was nothing they could do.

But did they stop there? No. Agecucks were determined to nail him on something. How dare he want a 17 year old foid over a strong, independent age appropriate 38 year old roastie. Well, he had made a recording of him and his 17 year old girlfriend having sex. Even though the Illinois AOC is 17, it still was considered child pornography since you have to be 18 to be recorded having sex

He was arrested and convicted on charges of producing child porn. The case went all the way to the Illinois Supreme Court and the majority of the justices voted to let the conviction stand. I think it was like 5-3.

So even if your girlfriend is the AOC, if she’s under 18 (maybe even 21) and you are significantly older than her, be sure that age cuck law enforcement will try to get you on anything they can.
Don't really feel sorry for that guy, if you are already fucking a woman what's the point of video taping it, seems like some egotistical bullshit, you'll just fuck her again, no need to watch a video of you fucking her.
 
Based for deporting a mexican
 
Those lawyers did very well for deporting that sex haver mexican I hate sex havers that have the audacity to tape it to bragg about it :feelsUgh:
 
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Juan Esquivel-Quintana is a citizen of Mexico who has lived in the United States as a legal permanent resident since he was 12 years old. He was not an incel; he was a normie. See, at the age of 20, Quintana had sex with his 16-year-old girlfriend.

That was illegal under California law: when it comes to statutory rape, California law is much stricter than that of most other states. Cal. Penal Code Ann. §261.5 sets the age of consent at 18, with a close-in-age exemption of only three years. Only seven of the 50 states set the age of consent at 18; the other states set it at 16 or 17.

So Quintana was arrested, convicted, and spent a few weeks in a county jail. Afterwards, he moved to Michigan for a fresh start. But in 2013, ICE commenced deportation proceedings. Federal immigration law allows the U.S. government to deport any and all aliens who have been convicted of an "aggravated felony", whether in state or federal court. Under the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, the "sexual abuse of a minor" is an "aggravated felony". See 8 U.S.C. §1101(43)(A). If Quintana were deported, he would have been permanently banned from the United States.

Quintana's lawyers argued that statutory rape—at least in the particular circumstances of his case—was not an "aggravated felony". They pointed out that Quintana's conduct was in fact legal in most states and under federal criminal law, so their client wasn't deserving of deportation. But the Board of Immigration Appeals disagreed, and on appeal, the Sixth Circuit applied Chevron deference and held that Quintana was eligible for deportation.

So Quintana, whose case was now taken by Stanford Law professor Jeffrey L. Fisher, appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. The central question was this: Did a conviction of statutory rape under California law constitute "sexual abuse of a minor" for the purposes of federal immigration law?

View attachment 619809

And exactly five years ago, on May 30th, 2017, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously answered no. In a defeat for the Trump administration, Justice Clarence Thomas reasoned that the Court would have to consider not the specific circumstances of a criminal conviction, but whether the conduct proscribed by statute, at minimum, fits within the generic federal definition of a corresponding aggravated felony.

Thomas wrote that


Applying his originalist twist on statutory interpretation, because a significant majority of states had set the age of consent at 16 back when the Act was passed in 1996, Thomas concluded that Quintana was not eligible for removal from the United States on the basis of his statutory rape conviction in California. Not only that, but Thomas held that the generic federal definition of "sexual abuse of a minor" did not apply to convictions of statutory rape in states where the age of consent was higher than 16.

You can read the full decision of Esquivel-Quintana v. Sessions, 137 S. Ct. 1562. (2017), here.

@Wizard32 @Edmund_Kemper @RoastieBeef
If I said what was on my mind about this case I would probably be banned off incels.is :lul:
 
Sad ending NGL
Sexhaver scum should have been fucking deported
 

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