Blackpill The ACTUAL Definition Of "Cope" (Coping = Denying / Ignoring Reality)

[BlkPillPres]

The way that I see a lot of people on this forum use the term "cope" doesn't even make sense.

They render the word "cope" useless because their definition is so broad that it applies to any and everything.

They will say eating food that tastes good is cope, consuming any kind of entertainment is cope, etc. There's no context, there's no criteria, they've simply made "cope" be LITERALLY ANYTHING YOU DO WHILE EXISTING.

THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE ORIGINAL USAGE AND DEFINITION OF THE TERM "COPE".

Defining "cope" as they do, is like defining "dog" as "a four legged animal with two eyes and fur".

That could be a cat, a horse, a moose, a tiger, etc, etc, etc. It has no meaning because it's too broad.

That definition of cope is 100% false, it's too broad so it holds no meaning and it has no value.

There's a reason why meme images like this were created (they were created for the ACTUAL definition of "cope"):

Images like this are made to make fun of someone exhibiting extremes of denying reality (coping).

This image doesn't even make sense within the context of broad usage I described above, which could be something as simple as eating ice cream lol.

Can you even imagine this image being posted in response to someone saying "I like to eat ice cream"?

Or do you think it will be posted for someone saying "sex dolls > sex with stacy"?

I already know that some of you can't be honest with yourself so these questions are rhetorical lol.



Coping isn't just an action, it's an action that is tied to a belief that denies / ignores reality.

Trying to make money by itself is not a cope, how you use that money may be a cope.

Paying for sex by itself isn't a cope, HOW you pay for sex, WHY you pay for sex, and WHAT you pay for, is what makes it a cope.

For example:
If you just go to a brothel, pay the usual fee, fuck, and go about your day. All you did was purchase a service, you have no delusions about the arrangement, you didn't try to play any "pretend games" by using mental gymnastics on yourself, you are honest with yourself about what you're doing. In that case YOU ARE NOT COPING.

However, If you hire an escort, pay for the "girlfriend experience", tell her to call you "baby" and "honey", tell her to laugh at your jokes, take her out on a date, buy her food, drinks, entertainment, etc, then go back to a hotel to fuck her and tell her to pretend to enjoy it. YOU ARE COPING.

You are 100% delusional in that scenario, you are trying to deny / ignore reality through your actions.

COPING ISN'T JUST AN ACTION, IT'S AN ACTION THAT IS TIED TO A BELIEF THAT DENIES / IGNORES REALITY.
IT'S SOMEONE LIVING IN DENIAL, THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A "COPE".

To define "cope" in the broad way I see it used on this forum, takes away all meaning from the term. It takes away the "weight" of it being an insult towards behavior that should be corrected, it renders the term USELESS.

If you are telling a fellow incel to not be a beta orbiter and chase his "oneitis" because its "coping", he isn't going to "feel the weight" of that insult when you previously told him that eating ice cream is "coping".

You've rendered the term useless because you've taken away from the "weight" of the insult, it holds no value.

You can literally swap out "coping" with "existing" the way some people use the term lol.

It has no meaning when they use it.


This ridiculous definition is used no where else except in incel communities, and originally it was never used in incel communities like this.

It was changed to be like this to support the LDAR mindset, because if everything is a "cope" you can justify doing nothing with your life.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Coping is not denying reality. Coping is mitigating the suffering caused by reality.

Denial, for example, is the means by which an individual is deluding themselves by ignoring reality.

By your definition "coping" is the act of negating the will to live. It isn't. Some copes even correspond to innovations of genius such as the production of artwork.

Coping is not "saintly."(Schopenhauerean and Nietzschean philosophy)

Apply your definition to images like this and others like it, does it even make sense? (you know it doesn't).

Because this is the usage that I've seen for "cope" since the beginning.

It is only recently that I'm seeing this retardation of cope being "blinking 5 times" or anything else under the sun that happens when you exist.

If cope is literally anything you do, then nothing is cope.

If everything is a cope then nothing is a cope.

The definition you guys use doesn't make any sense, it defeats the purpose of the term even existing.

 

[Saint Cho]

Apply your definition to images like this and others like it, does it even make sense? (you know it doesn't).

A form of coping can be denying reality. It's not the only form, but a common one.

 

[BlkPillPres]

A form of coping can be denying reality. It's not the only form, but a common one.

It's the only definition that makes sense, there are literally guys on here saying that the definition of cope is "everything other than killing yourself" . The term has no meaning when you guys use it.

A cope might evoke an immense degree of pleasure or desperation as to impel someone (either the coping individual or an observer) to experience momentary hysteria.

Some copes are stimulating, other copes are depressing.

What the hell are you even talking about, you are just babbling right now, at the end of the day what you're saying is vague and therefore useless for establishing a definition.

You are trying to make this sound like it's something deep or philosophical .

It isn't, it never has been, it's only the retards on this forum using "cope" like this. On 4Chan and everywhere else they use the original definition.

If any and everything is "coping", THEN NOTHING IS "COPING".

You can't have it both ways.

Like I said before, If I define "dog" as "a four legged animal with two eyes and fur", then a lot of animals fall under that definition, which makes the definition useless.

I think this meme is using the term cope in an obviously satirical way. As if to insinuate that the cope itself is too potent and is consequently causing some distress.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, but like I said before, that make no sense within the context of someone eating ice cream (which would be considered a "cope" under the retarded broad definition you guys use).

That ridiculous definition is used nowhere else except in incel communities, and originally it was never used in incel communities like this.

It was changed to be like this to support the LDAR mindset, because if everything is a cope you can justify doing nothing with your life.

 

[ResidentHell]

The way I see it, "cope" is relative to suffering, but not everyone would inevitably suffer from the same condition, because not everyone would necessarily feel tormented when placed under the exact same circumstances. A situation that may be easily handled (or even genuinely enjoyed) by one person, could be perceived as scary and difficult to handle by a different person. For example, people could go on a horror--themed ride in an amusement park: Some of them would enjoy the ride and actually feel amused by all of the things which they are exposed to, but others may feel scared, cry relentlessly and tightly hold on to their legal guardian or friend throughout the whole ride despite being exposed to the same things on the horror-themed ride.

This means the forms of "cope" that would be needed to manage an adverse situation may differ from person to person. The exact same activity done by a person for the reason of pure enjoyment, could be a "coping mechanism" for another person. Ideally, the kind of activities that can be used as a "coping mechanism" are not inevitably restricted in variety. What this means is that in theory any form of activity can be a "mechanism of cope" (including sex), but it depends on exactly what the person is prone to feeling tormented by, and it also depends on how a specific activity would mitigate their conscious exposure to the condition under which they would feel tormented.

 

[The Enforcer]

I like to think there's atleast 2 general meanings for the word cope and their usage cases differ. Those that know just automatically know due to language. Much the same way the word "fuck" can be used in all manner of contexts and mean different things. "Fuck you", "Fuck Me" and "I'm going to fuck you" etc

The first thing I define a cope as is what you've said. People denying reality and basically spewing bullshit or believing bullshit to try and deal with what's actually reality with their own delusions. Going to often stupid and illogical lengths to justify their false positions.

The second way I use it is more just a general term that applies to things people do to help them 'cope' with life. The idea that we all have our copes. I cope, and try to escape reality by rotting in the internet. In a sense this second meaning would refer less to the denial of reality, but more the avoidance of it though still being accepting of it.

 

[BlkPillPres]

In a sense this second meaning would refer less to the denial of reality, but more the avoidance of it though still being accepting of it.

Avoidance......... so you mean ignoring reality. That's part of my one definition.

Coping = Denying / Ignoring reality.

It's all in that one definition.

 

[turbosperg]

The way that I see a lot of people on this forum use the term "cope" doesn't even make sense.

They render the word "cope" useless because their definition is so broad that it applies to any and everything.

They will say eating food that tastes good is cope, consuming any kind of entertainment is cope, etc. There's no context, there's no criteria, they've simply made "cope" be LITERALLY ANYTHING YOU DO WHILE EXISTING.

THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE ORIGINAL USAGE AND DEFINITION OF THE TERM "COPE".

Defining "cope" as they do, is like defining "dog" as "a four legged animal with two eyes and fur".

That could be a cat, a horse, a moose, a tiger, etc, etc, etc. It has no meaning because it's too broad.

That definition of cope is 100% false, it's too broad so it holds no meaning and it has no value.

There's a reason why meme images like this were created (they were created for the ACTUAL definition of "cope"):

Images like this are made to make fun of someone exhibiting extremes of denying reality (coping).

This image doesn't even make sense within the context of broad usage I described above, which could be something as simple as eating ice cream lol.

Can you even imagine this image being posted in response to someone saying "I like to eat ice cream"?

Or do you think it will be posted for someone saying "sex dolls > sex with stacy"?

I already know that some of you can't be honest with yourself so these questions are rhetorical lol.



Coping isn't just an action, it's an action that is tied to a belief that denies / ignores reality.

Trying to make money by itself is not a cope, how you use that money may be a cope.

Paying for sex by itself isn't a cope, HOW you pay for sex, WHY you pay for sex, and WHAT you pay for, is what makes it a cope.

For example:
If you just go to a brothel, pay the usual fee, fuck, and go about your day. All you did was purchase a service, you have no delusions about the arrangement, you didn't try to play any "pretend games" by using mental gymnastics on yourself, you are honest with yourself about what you're doing. In that case YOU ARE NOT COPING.

However, If you hire an escort, pay for the "girlfriend experience", tell her to call you "baby" and "honey", tell her to laugh at your jokes, take her out on a date, buy her food, drinks, entertainment, etc, then go back to a hotel to fuck her and tell her to pretend to enjoy it. YOU ARE COPING.

You are 100% delusional in that scenario, you are trying to deny / ignore reality through your actions.

COPING ISN'T JUST AN ACTION, IT'S AN ACTION THAT IS TIED TO A BELIEF THAT DENIES / IGNORES REALITY.
IT'S SOMEONE LIVING IN DENIAL, THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A "COPE".

To define "cope" in the broad way I see it used on this forum, takes away all meaning from the term. It takes away the "weight" of it being an insult towards behavior that should be corrected, it renders the term USELESS.

If you are telling a fellow incel to not be a beta orbiter and chase his "oneitis" because its "coping", he isn't going to "feel the weight" of that insult when you previously told him that eating ice cream is "coping".

You've rendered the term useless because you've taken away from the "weight" of the insult, it holds no value.

You can literally swap out "coping" with "existing" the way some people use the term lol.

It has no meaning when they use it.


This ridiculous definition is used no where else except in incel communities, and originally it was never used in incel communities like this.

It was changed to be like this to support the LDAR mindset, because if everything is a "cope" you can justify doing nothing with your life.

Grab a dictionary, dude.

 

[Mecoja]

I agree, by definition that food, movies, games etc are copes, things you enjoy or entertaint you, then literary everything is a cope, sex, gf, wife, kids would be also a cope with existing because there is no meaning in it.

 

[The Enforcer]

Avoidance......... so you mean ignoring reality. That's part of my one definition.

Coping = Denying / Ignoring reality.

It's all in that one definition.

I guess so. I guess I just like to make the distinction in usage since it's a topic that doesn't get bought up much. Which is ironic because definitely, a lot of people don't really understand it's usage. But I guess there's a slight nuance, like with the "fuck" example. I could say "fuck" but that could mean actual fucking/sex, or it could be like going "oh shit".

The avoidance usage certainly ignores reality sometimes if it's escapism but doesn't necessarily have to deny it. I guess that could also be split into two other ways though. Immersing oneself in a game having accepted reality I guess would be avoiding reality, eating ice cream, probably not so much, more just trying to deal with at a basic comforting level... Unless someone somehow finds ice-cream extremely intoxicating

 

[Izayacel]

Coping has the meaning that I described in an earlier post.

"Coping is mitigating the suffering caused by reality."

I was providing an explanation on how copes function in order to better clarify my definiton and its relevance to the gif you are using as an example of how the term "cope" has become mystified.

Not all things are coping in the sense that only some things provide relief.

Absolutely.

Your definition does not become useless due to its simplistic categorization. It just becomes expendable and needing of some replacement.

If one eats to provide some pleasure and momentarily separate themselves from some unfortunate circumstance, they are coping.

Which definition exactly?

Except some of us are doing something with our lives through acting upon our personal interests as they are usually the few sources of joy we currently possess.

These interests are coping mechanisms.

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Sublimination, fantasy, denial, rationalization, and regression seems to be the most prevalent forms of coping in contemporary society.

Video games and reading: Fantasy
Studying philosophies and ideologies: Rationalization
Ignoring the disturbing truths of life: Denial
Participating in obscure and harmful communities: Sublimination

All of these could be applied to describing incels.is in some manner.

Good points

 

[BlkPillPres]

The avoidance usage certainly ignores reality sometimes if it's escapism but doesn't necessarily have to deny it.

That's why I'm saying it's denying OR ignoring reality. It's either one of the two.

eating ice cream, probably not so much, more just trying to deal with at a basic comforting level

I don't think it's even that deep. People just eat ice cream because it tastes good, it's that simple. It's really just the LDAR crowd on the forum that want to label everything as "cope", because then it justifies them doing nothing with their lives, since everything is just a "pointless cope".

Unless someone somehow finds ice-cream extremely intoxicating

Come on now, lets be serious. It's this level of word games that leads to the nonsense we see all over this forum.

 

[The Enforcer]

I don't think it's even that deep. People just eat ice cream because it tastes good, it's that simple. It's really just the LDAR crowd on the forum that want to label everything as "cope", because then it justifies them doing nothing with their lives, since everything is just a "pointless cope".


Come on now, lets be serious. It's this level of word games that leads to the nonsense we see all over this forum.

I dunno, it's rare. Most average ice-cream enjoyers will be normal about it. But I know that there are a lot of people that will abuse comfort foods almost like a drug addiction. Those are the ones who eat to cope instead of sustaining themselves. Lots of women seem to do that actually although I'm sure there's a few fatcels that also gorge on heart attack levels of food just to keep getting their dopamine receptors hit.

 

[ResidentHell]

I know that there are a lot of people that will abuse comfort foods almost like a drug addiction. Those are the ones who eat to cope instead of sustaining themselves. Lots of women seem to do that actually although I'm sure there's a few fatcels that also gorge on heart attack levels of food just to keep getting their dopamine receptors hit.

 

[BPJ]

i feel like this thread was very necessary and should be pinned.

 

[the.oracle]

You are right, meaningless terms serve no linguistic or rational purpose, and I must concede that I've thoughtlessly used "coping" in that sense (like a "good" coping mechanism / strategy).

But coping must imply you do something in the real world expecting an unrealistic outcome.

Like believing in God and acting "morally" thinking you'll be saved or rewarded earthly goods.

But if you do the same action expecting a realistic outcome you are not coping.

Like paying for a whore for sexual pleasure without expecting "love".

The key is finding realistic and factual grounds for basing your actions upon, you'll realize your limits and potentials and be able to set up a plan of action to fulfill what can be fulfilled, therefore giving you real pleasure/accomplishments instead of idealistic outcomes that can never be reached and are after all fruit of imagination and socially enforced illusion.

On the other hand, I think there is a reason based on insecurity and idealism for why people would consider everything a cope - they think the only "non-cope" thing would be reaching this abstract notion of "happiness" and "fulfillment", like "having a loving girlfriend" or living the idealistic bluepill way of life. Therefore, everything that is not "that" is "coping".

It's a contradiction, because deep down they think not everything is a cope, their "coping" is being basically a sodomite lamenting an ideal world that never existed in the first place. But while you do that, you lose time, resources and life energy to actual fulfill your real and instinctual (not socially constructed) needs and wishes.