Serious The absurdity of people crusading to deplatform incels everywhere, while complaining about us being "hateful"

[Despondent Dreamer]

Incels have been purged from the whole of Reddit, most imageboards are overrun with normies, yet all we want are some places to cope with people to whom we can relate. Wouldn't you say that it's a little bit ridiculous to scour the internet for anything which offends your sensibilities, and upon finding anything then demanding that it be removed? I don't really want to converse with most normies when it comes to subjects which they can't relate to at all, which is why I'm here in the first place. Is it too much to ask to let a bunch of ugly, rejected, and socially ostracized losers cope in peace?

Yes it's true that many posts here could be offensive to some people, but so what? Nobody is being forced to lurk this place. And quite frankly many of the topics which are discussed here are often banned on more popular sites. If you can word something in any manner you like, and no matter what your post gets removed by a moderator, well I'd have to ask why are some topics of discussion completely banned from discourse? That isn't a problem with us.

On Reddit I literally can't fully express my problems without having my posts be removed for some arbitrary reason. I try to be polite, I don't insult people, and yet despite that I can't even vent without getting banned because my ranting brings up subjects which make people feel bad, or otherwise goes against some preexisting narrative. People claim that we're hateful despite constant targeted efforts to deplatform us, despite me not even being allowed to discuss my problems on normie spaces, despite the same people demonizing me and attempting to gaslight me into fucking orbit. And we're not the ones demanding that anything we disagree with be shutdown. With that said, the only conclusion I can come to is that people expect us to just shut up and suffer in silence.

So who exactly is being hateful here?

Honestly the energy some people expend to censor or otherwise sanitize the internet makes me genuinely sad. As currently it's our primary tool of getting information on any topic from any possible viewpoint. Why take that away? Why do people have this seemingly desperate need to purge every trance of anything which offends them and anything that they disagree with?

 

[BaffleTrot]

It's the parody version of the tolerance paradox "intolerance must not be tolerated." IT thinks that they're just not tolerating intolerance, but largely they don't realize that they're being shown a very carefully curated selection of incel posts designed to make them hate us, and thus give them a feeling of righteousness. There's a lack of understanding cause and effect, and most egregiously, a lack of genuine desire to learn about things before hating them. There's literal fuckin Nazis on here, and I still see a thousand times more hatred from IT than I do anywhere on here.

 

[Deleted member 39301]

Hatefulness is only acceptable if its politically correct. Tolerance is only given to those that they can make a profit off of.

 

[HighTGymcel]

Ig we would need a bit more underground place which isn't as obvious as incels.is lol.

 

[Despondent Dreamer]

It's the parody version of the tolerance paradox "intolerance must not be tolerated." IT thinks that they're just not tolerating intolerance, but largely they don't realize that they're being shown a very carefully curated selection of incel posts designed to make them hate us, and thus give them a feeling of righteousness. There's a lack of understanding cause and effect, and most egregiously, a lack of genuine desire to learn about things before hating them. There's literal fuckin Nazis on here, and I still see a thousand times more hatred from IT than I do anywhere on here.

Well put tbh, but yeah it's just frustrating. I don't like people who go out of their way to mock us, but if they simply wanted to post stuff to laugh at or whatever on their own sub, why should I care? The issue is that IT and many like them aren't content with merely criticizing us.

 

[Saudade]

Normies are very cruel people, they are always in need for hate to feel better about themselves and to affirm their upstanding citizen belief which gives them the feel of superiority and moral high ground.

Because of political correctness which stunts their social status (which is everything to them) they are only left with hating Incels.

 

[nightbane]

reddit is plagued with fags and cucks so its not a surprise

 

[Selbsthass]

Honestly I don't have energy to even raise my eyebrows when I see the level of retardation spewed by normal idiots. The incel thing has been painted as some sort of a terrorist threat. When you type in the word "incel" into Google, most of the results will be either news reports of terrorist attacks or documentaries and studies on the phenomenon which are always also focusing on the muh misogyny aspect. I remember seeing the incel themed reports booming in late 2017 and 2018, especially after Toronto van attack. Suddenly it became the new big thing (I guess they needed some boogeyman after ISIS) and every media news outlet couldn't shut the fuck up about it.

Currently from what I see the word incel is simply used to describe militant misogyny. I assume that yapping about women's rights, the constant harassment isn't as profitable when simply every social environment now bends over to suck your clit and shower you with privileges so it is best to cry about real violence. Of course the claims of violence are all based on some retarded post threads like "all women should be raped" by CurryWristcelTrash who has a fucking Konata or Mugi as his avatar pic. Sure, there were people like ER or Minassian. Doesn't matter that neither of them were a part of any incel community, the dAngEroUs iDeolOgy RadiCaLizES YuOung MeN.

The other thing is that inceldom goes hand in hand with controversy. None of the shit that you post here is moderated (and thank god for that) which in current day and age where even 4chan is utterly cucked and every dickwad with an iPhone has an access to the Internet must be a real thorn in the eye.

FInally, incel is simply a buzzword. "Incels are running a suicide website" sounds much more exciting than "Two ugly lonely dudes living with their parents are running a suicide website". I see that media really tries hard to make inceldom an inherrent trait of every school shooter, because that only amps up the drama and the controversy. And normies being the feeble minded, easily manipulated retards that they are follow the typical mob mentality where they come rushing in with torches and pitchforks to any place where idiots like you, me and the rest shitpost whole day.

The most ironical thing is that nobody sets out to repair the broken aspects of this fucked up society. Let alone have a normal discussion about it. Instead they will rather remove every single dude that hasn't got his dick wet instead of fixing the mentality that creates the problem in the first place. Or they will invite some edgelord imbecile to suddenly represent the whole group like it's a fucking ideology and not the fact that you were handed a shitty deck of cards when you were born.

 

[Despondent Dreamer]

The most ironical thing is that nobody sets out to repair the broken aspects of this fucked up society. Let alone have a normal discussion about it. Instead they will rather remove every single dude that hasn't got his dick wet instead of fixing the mentality that creates the problem in the first place. Or they will invite some edgelord imbecile to suddenly represent the whole group like it's a fucking ideology and not the fact that you were handed a shitty deck of cards when you were born.

This tbh. Nobody is actually interested in resolving the problems, so they simply seek to ban any discussion of those problems. I'd wager that most people here were failed by the system, especially given the amount of NEETcels. All it takes is a bit of browsing through inceldom discussion to see that this place is filled with people who feel hopeless. My point is, how is deplatforming us going to be a solution to any of that? Of course as we've already discerned, few people genuinely want to help us.

 

[Selbsthass]

This tbh. Nobody is actually interested in resolving the problems, so they simply seek to ban any discussion of those problems. I'd wager that most people here were failed by the system, especially given the amount of NEETcels. All it takes is a bit of browsing through inceldom discussion to see that this place is filled with people who feel hopeless. My point is, how is deplatforming us going to be a solution to any of that? Of course as we've already discerned, few people genuinely want to help us.

Correction: none of the people want to genuinely help the incels. Just compare the comments under Eggy's vids on black pill and Vice's dOcumenTAry On InkWelLS where they took some mid-tier normie with social anxiety to represent the group. People felt bad for the dude in Vice documentary and shat constantly on Eggman calling him a loser, defeatist and whatever the fuck comes to your mind. General public doesn't give a shit about you if you're male, but if you happen to also be unattractive then you're pretty much invisible.

Doesn't matter that guys ended up here mostly because of crippling loneliness, of having absolutely nobody to relate to. Fuck, there's even a number of people from this community who already roped, because the existence was too much for them. Best solution is to fuck up any means of communication they have so they can rot away in their homes without bothering society even online.

So far I've seen more support from incels to other incels that I ever saw from the society. Even if it's all dressed up in nigger and rape jokes it's still good to have somebody to open your mouth to who actually understands how it is to be a fully grown adult and not have any fucking romantic and any significant social experiences.

 

[Despondent Dreamer]

Correction: none of the people want to genuinely help the incels. Just compare the comments under Eggy's vids on black pill and Vice's dOcumenTAry On InkWelLS where they took some mid-tier normie with social anxiety to represent the group. People felt bad for the dude in Vice documentary and shat constantly on Eggman calling him a loser, defeatist and whatever the fuck comes to your mind. General public doesn't give a shit about you if you're male, but if you happen to also be unattractive then you're pretty much invisible.

Doesn't matter that guys ended up here mostly because of crippling loneliness, of having absolutely nobody to relate to. Fuck, there's even a number of people from this community who already roped, because the existence was too much for them. Best solution is to fuck up any means of communication they have so they can rot away in their homes without bothering society even online.

So far I've seen more support from incels to other incels that I ever saw from the society. Even if it's all dressed up in nigger and rape jokes it's still good to have somebody to open your mouth to who actually understands how it is to be a fully grown adult and not have any fucking romantic and any significant social experiences.

And possibly the most ridiculous part of all is that normies wonder why we don't like them, after they systematically get rid of all of our spaces. When you consider that a massive amount of the incel community doesn't just suffer from romantic rejection, but often rejection and ostracism all throughout their lives, well how is it a surprise to anyone that a lot of guys here don't like most humans very much?

Tbh I've tried doing things the normie way many times over, having gone through multiple entirely separate periods in my life when I deluded myself into believing that things would be different. At this point I just want to try to cope with fellow outcasts, but apparently I can't even do that. The mere memory of our existence is enough to warrant our the destruction of our community, all because this place isn't riddled with delusional and misplaced optimism.

 

[gimmedatrope999]

Ig we would need a bit more underground place which isn't as obvious as incels.is lol.

Absolutely
It’s simple OP, incels are proof that current day Western values don’t work.

 

[Selbsthass]

Tbh I've tried doing things the normie way many times over, having gone through multiple entirely separate periods in my life when I deluded myself into believing that things would be different. At this point I just want to try to cope with fellow outcasts, but apparently I can't even do that. The mere memory of our existence is enough to warrant our the destruction of our community, all because this place isn't riddled with delusional and misplaced optimism.

Normies really think of this community as of a cult where if you don't agree with blackpill in its entirety (which in part is compiled by a 17 y/o with too much time on his hands gathering his knowledge watching dating reality shows) you are being cast away and where there is no free interpretation allowed. What always annoyed me to the core was that false optimism that you mentioned which is being challenged in this place. And this is one of the reasons why I bother, because only here I can take things off my chest, because conversing with anybody from Reddit or Quora, or Twitter results in same shitty advice being thrown at me from somebody who has never experienced the issue. What's ironic is that this is exactly the same shit that they've been doing to the social outcasts for years. They will de-platform this community while offering no alternative. Unless they think we'll all migrate to r/IncelExit.

Ig we would need a bit more underground place which isn't as obvious as incels.is lol.

Putting on basic shit like imageboards in my country used to have would do the trick as most Internet users are technologically illiterate and would not comprehend the idea of blocking two to three .js scripts.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Incels have been purged from the whole of Reddit, most imageboards are overrun with normies, yet all we want are some places to cope with people to whom we can relate. Wouldn't you say that it's a little bit ridiculous to scour the internet for anything which offends your sensibilities, and upon finding anything then demanding that it be removed? I don't really want to converse with most normies when it comes to subjects which they can't relate to at all, which is why I'm here in the first place. Is it too much to ask to let a bunch of ugly, rejected, and socially ostracized losers cope in peace?

Yes it's true that many posts here could be offensive to some people, but so what? Nobody is being forced to lurk this place. And quite frankly many of the topics which are discussed here are often banned on more popular sites. If you can word something in any manner you like, and no matter what your post gets removed by a moderator, well I'd have to ask why are some topics of discussion completely banned from discourse? That isn't a problem with us.

On Reddit I literally can't fully express my problems without having my posts be removed for some arbitrary reason. I try to be polite, I don't insult people, and yet despite that I can't even vent without getting banned because my ranting brings up subjects which make people feel bad, or otherwise goes against some preexisting narrative. People claim that we're hateful despite constant targeted efforts to deplatform us, despite me not even being allowed to discuss my problems on normie spaces, despite the same people demonizing me and attempting to gaslight me into fucking orbit. And we're not the ones demanding that anything we disagree with be shutdown. With that said, the only conclusion I can come to is that people expect us to just shut up and suffer in silence.

So who exactly is being hateful here?

Honestly the energy some people expend to censor or otherwise sanitize the internet makes me genuinely sad. As currently it's our primary tool of getting information on any topic from any possible viewpoint. Why take that away? Why do people have this seemingly desperate need to purge every trance of anything which offends them and anything that they disagree with?

To understand why they're doing this you need to understand the puppeteers themselves, they won't be happy until they have complete total control of human thought itself, meaning they won't be happy until everybody who doesn't fall in their line of thinking that they control is purged or eradicated from existence. They hate us incels because we're wise onto their sexual eugenics program and because we're the most vocal critics against feminism. As for us as a group of men, we're some of the most vocal pessimists, cynics, and nihilists in existence. For that, we're deemed a threat that needs to be annihilated. We're an unruly group of men that they can barely control in the construction of their progressive brave new future dystopia.

Incels have been purged from the whole of Reddit, most imageboards are overrun with normies, yet all we want are some places to cope with people to whom we can relate. Wouldn't you say that it's a little bit ridiculous to scour the internet for anything which offends your sensibilities, and upon finding anything then demanding that it be removed? I don't really want to converse with most normies when it comes to subjects which they can't relate to at all, which is why I'm here in the first place. Is it too much to ask to let a bunch of ugly, rejected, and socially ostracized losers cope in peace?

Yes it's true that many posts here could be offensive to some people, but so what? Nobody is being forced to lurk this place. And quite frankly many of the topics which are discussed here are often banned on more popular sites. If you can word something in any manner you like, and no matter what your post gets removed by a moderator, well I'd have to ask why are some topics of discussion completely banned from discourse? That isn't a problem with us.

On Reddit I literally can't fully express my problems without having my posts be removed for some arbitrary reason. I try to be polite, I don't insult people, and yet despite that I can't even vent without getting banned because my ranting brings up subjects which make people feel bad, or otherwise goes against some preexisting narrative. People claim that we're hateful despite constant targeted efforts to deplatform us, despite me not even being allowed to discuss my problems on normie spaces, despite the same people demonizing me and attempting to gaslight me into fucking orbit. And we're not the ones demanding that anything we disagree with be shutdown. With that said, the only conclusion I can come to is that people expect us to just shut up and suffer in silence.

So who exactly is being hateful here?

Honestly the energy some people expend to censor or otherwise sanitize the internet makes me genuinely sad. As currently it's our primary tool of getting information on any topic from any possible viewpoint. Why take that away? Why do people have this seemingly desperate need to purge every trance of anything which offends them and anything that they disagree with?

They're brainwashed idiots, imbeciles, and socialist utopian ideologues, when confronted by something they can't understand or makes them feel threatened they lash out in either censorship and eventual violence. They're sheep that need a shepherd and the shadow cabal that wants to control the entire world eventually setting up a world government is their shepherd.

It's the parody version of the tolerance paradox "intolerance must not be tolerated." IT thinks that they're just not tolerating intolerance, but largely they don't realize that they're being shown a very carefully curated selection of incel posts designed to make them hate us, and thus give them a feeling of righteousness. There's a lack of understanding cause and effect, and most egregiously, a lack of genuine desire to learn about things before hating them. There's literal fuckin Nazis on here, and I still see a thousand times more hatred from IT than I do anywhere on here.

It's funny, they'll say that we make fallacies by saying all women are the same, and yet, they make the same fallacy saying all incels are the same when in all actuality we're the most diverse group of men in existence where beyond our inceldom we all rarely agree on anything. Just look at their recent trend saying all incels are violent, pedophiles, and rape supporters, they can't even see their own fallacious reasoning.

Ig we would need a bit more underground place which isn't as obvious as incels.is lol.

Anymore there are fewer and fewer places on the net to run to that aren't inhabited by thought control or the thought police. The pool of safe refuges is shrinking where it has been ever since the year 2016.

Normies are very cruel people, they are always in need for hate to feel better about themselves and to affirm their upstanding citizen belief which gives them the feel of superiority and moral high ground.

Because of political correctness which stunts their social status (which is everything to them) they are only left with hating Incels.

It's funny because the dumb fools don't see the end of human civilization that is coming right around the corner, their upstanding citizen belief structure that rewards them for being good little boys and girls will not save them when that event finally arrives to which nobody will be able to deny, it's only a matter of time that it does finally arrive. I've devoted my entire life to studying this phenomenon.

They don't want us to have anything.

They want us to have death or incarceration, that's about it. As far as they're concerned we're the uncontrollable or unruly men of societies around the world that need to be forcibly removed. Once you understand this, everything else becomes clearer. They can't convert, assimilate, control, or mold us, so the next step is elimination.

Absolutely
It’s simple OP, incels are proof that current day Western values don’t work.

And they'll never admit to it or own up to that, the entire west will collapse, and the next thing out of their mouths will be that real western values have never been tried before. They're a bunch of greedy profit-driven delusionals, they only think in the short term, not the long term.

 

[SlutLiberationFront]

Since the internet has left the status of a niche thing with lots of freedom and spaces, now it is the most mainstream thing there is in this planet and it got filled the brink with NPCs and white knights, it was inevitable, especially after recent events in the past decade. Also, the media severely misrepresenting us along with fucking IT to brainless idiots is not helping anything, creating panic in people and fearmongering.

Most people in this life had met an incel or saw them in the streets and would never be capable of telling they were an incel. I hate NPCs and the media so much.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Incels have been purged from the whole of Reddit, most imageboards are overrun with normies, yet all we want are some places to cope with people to whom we can relate. Wouldn't you say that it's a little bit ridiculous to scour the internet for anything which offends your sensibilities, and upon finding anything then demanding that it be removed? I don't really want to converse with most normies when it comes to subjects which they can't relate to at all, which is why I'm here in the first place. Is it too much to ask to let a bunch of ugly, rejected, and socially ostracized losers cope in peace?

Yes it's true that many posts here could be offensive to some people, but so what? Nobody is being forced to lurk this place. And quite frankly many of the topics which are discussed here are often banned on more popular sites. If you can word something in any manner you like, and no matter what your post gets removed by a moderator, well I'd have to ask why are some topics of discussion completely banned from discourse? That isn't a problem with us.

On Reddit I literally can't fully express my problems without having my posts be removed for some arbitrary reason. I try to be polite, I don't insult people, and yet despite that I can't even vent without getting banned because my ranting brings up subjects which make people feel bad, or otherwise goes against some preexisting narrative. People claim that we're hateful despite constant targeted efforts to deplatform us, despite me not even being allowed to discuss my problems on normie spaces, despite the same people demonizing me and attempting to gaslight me into fucking orbit. And we're not the ones demanding that anything we disagree with be shutdown. With that said, the only conclusion I can come to is that people expect us to just shut up and suffer in silence.

So who exactly is being hateful here?

Honestly the energy some people expend to censor or otherwise sanitize the internet makes me genuinely sad. As currently it's our primary tool of getting information on any topic from any possible viewpoint. Why take that away? Why do people have this seemingly desperate need to purge every trance of anything which offends them and anything that they disagree with?

just do me a favor and kill yourself. If you have nothing good to say about women you are a worthless piece of shit

 

[Deleted member 39412]

I've been begging for help on Reddit countless times. I'd try to frame things in a way that wouldn't get me banned, but they'd still find some way to remove my messages. And some subs actually have a rule where no matter what you write, your message is being put on hold if: a) your account is suspicious; b) too many people report you. So much for freedom of expression.

Most of the Reddit is just "shroom"-eaters, sex-addicts and time-wasters. Every fandom I find is always the same - focused on memes. They actually remove nice discussions.

The bureaucracy of Reddit is that you get in trouble if Reddit thinks you're allowing "hateful" content on your sub. So, the mods are lazy, of course - I don't think anyone gets paid there except the admins - and the admins are lazy.
I've had people directly telling me they'll hurt me physically, DEMANDING my address or trying to recruit me in some anarchy group. None of it is ever removed no matter how much I report. But my account? They'll just ban me without any explanation.

I don't think Reddit specifically wants incels out, with the exception of some assholes like that admin, "turtlepanda" or whatever. She probably knows that everyone at her work is too lazy to doubt her.