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Serious Teen love is a massive cope

Caesercel

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Teen love is just a training ground for foids to become cock carousal riding hypergamous whores, Chads to become harem masters and normies to become beta-simp orbiters and jesters. This is where everyone learns their place in the sexual heirarchy based on looks, and how they are gonna behave for the rest of their lives.

The problems for incels start at this stage. Ascribing any kind of "purity" to teen love is massive gigacope. Plus, getting mentally crippled by lonely teen years is a cope as well. What people call "developmental milestones" is basically the same training described above. You did not miss any milestone, you actually hit all the developmental milestones to become an ugly lonely incel.
 
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The problems for incels start at this stage.

Yeah, no shit lol.

And there is an element of purity. The one who fucked her first will forever own her. Any man who LTRs her later on will be getting the deflowerer's leftovers.
 
Ascribing any kind of "purity" to teen love is massive gigacope.
The purity lies in the fact that you're the first man to enter her pussy. It doesn't matter how many cocks she rides after you broke up. You'll always be that first.
 
Yeah, no shit lol.

And there is an element of purity. The one who fucked her first will forever own her. Any man who LTRs her later on will be getting the deflowerer's leftovers.
The purity lies in the fact that you're the first man to enter her pussy. It doesn't matter how many cocks she rides after you broke up. You'll always be that first.
Foids are nowadays fucking in middle school. There is no love. Even as a teenager with a gf there is a good chance she is not a virgin. And cope if you think whores nowadays remember their first fuck like some special thing.
 
Foids are nowadays fucking in middle school. There is no love. Even as a teenager with a gf there is a good chance she is not a virgin.
Age is irrelevant --- it's only pure when you're the first to enter her. If she's not a virgin you're literally putting your dick in another man's cum hole, which is fucking revolting.
And cope if you think whores nowadays remember their first fuck like some special thing.
Also irrelevant. It's about the personal victory.

You're the real coper by thinking this all doesn't matter somehow.
 
Romantic love between people is cope in general tbh, most just say "love" rather than lust so they can mystify reality for themselves. At best you love an idea about another person which solely exists within you, at worst it's a normie code word for mutual attraction.

In the past people would marry even if not physically attracted to each other, chastity was seen as a virtue, and in the successful cases, people loved and were devoted to an ideal. Perhaps through the medium of devotion to family or God, people can love each other in an indirect way, but I'm unsure. At the very least, it's better than what we have now.
 
Age is irrelevant --- it's only pure when you're the first to enter her. If she's not a virgin you're literally putting your dick in another man's cum hole, which is fucking revolting.

Also irrelevant. It's about the personal victory.

You're the real coper by thinking this all doesn't matter somehow.
I am not saying this all doesn't matter. I am saying this all shouldn't be happening in the first place. Incels who glorify teen love are glorifying a system which oppresses them. If things were actually based, there would be no teen love and no teen jb losing their virginity.
In the past people would marry even if not physically attracted to each other, chastity was seen as a virtue, and in the successful cases, people loved and were devoted to an ideal.
Exactly. Its not that impossible if our ancestors could manage it. Teen love is an aspect of our society that is against us(like many other things)
 
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If things were actually based, there would be no teen love and no teen jb losing their virginity.
How is that based? Taking a JB's virginity is literally the most divine thing in the world.
 
I am mentally crippled from lonely teen years
 
How is that based? Taking a JB's virginity is literally the most divine thing in the world.
Yeah but she is not losing her virginity to you, is she? This system is built against us.
 
Yeah but she is not losing her virginity to you, is she? This system is built against us.
Let's be real: if we would by some magic wake up Chad-tier attractive tomorrow, we'd leave .co and hunt JB poon the same day.
 
Let's be real: if we would by some magic wake up Chad-tier attractive tomorrow, we'd leave .co and hunt JB poon the same day.
But we are not chads. Our interests and their interests are different. Why would we support a system that explicitly benefits Chads and lets them deflower all jb?
 
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Foids are nowadays fucking in middle school. There is no love. Even as a teenager with a gf there is a good chance she is not a virgin. And cope if you think whores nowadays remember their first fuck like some special thing.

Most are still virgins by 14 but did pretty much everything else.
 
Plus, getting mentally crippled by lonely teen years is a cope as well. What people call "developmental milestones" is basically the same training described above. You did not miss any milestone, you actually hit all the developmental milestones to become an ugly lonely incel.
gonna have to slightly disagree, some people end up being ugly ducklings, and become normal looking later. this can happen because of being overweight, being a late bloomer, fixing acne, or getting surgery to improve looks, or maybe even something else

missing out early will affect you later even if you get back "in the game"
 
Foids are nowadays fucking in middle school. There is no love. Even as a teenager with a gf there is a good chance she is not a virgin. And cope if you think whores nowadays remember their first fuck like some special thing.

They won't remember the 50th guy in college. They remember awkward teen sex.
I am mentally crippled from lonely teen years

I'm an MK Ultra victim
 
gonna have to slightly disagree, some people end up being ugly ducklings, and become normal looking later. this can happen because of being overweight, being a late bloomer, fixing acne, or getting surgery to improve looks, or maybe even something else

missing out early will affect you later even if you get back "in the game"
Its all about looks in the end. Who ends up where. I do agree that missing out would make it harder later but then again why play a game or perpetuate it when we lost the moment we were born.
 
Its all about looks in the end. Who ends up where. I do agree that missing out would make it harder later but then again why play a game or perpetuate it when we lost the moment we were born.
well you can't "catch up", but if you fix your looks somehow, you can get a slice of the pie, which is what our biology trains us to do.

unfortunately every girl is a used up whore so serious relationships are basically off the table unless you want to be a cuck
 
Teen love is just a training ground for foids to become cock carousal riding hypergamous whores, Chads to become harem masters and normies to become beta-simp orbiters and jesters. This is where everyone learns their place in the sexual heirarchy based on looks, and how they are gonna behave for the rest of their lives.

The problems for incels start at this stage. Ascribing any kind of "purity" to teen love is massive gigacope. Plus, getting mentally crippled by lonely teen years is a cope as well. What people call "developmental milestones" is basically the same training described above. You did not miss any milestone, you actually hit all the developmental milestones to become an ugly lonely incel.
High IQ thread
 
Teen love is just a training ground for foids to become cock carousal riding hypergamous whores, Chads to become harem masters and normies to become beta-simp orbiters and jesters. This is where everyone learns their place in the sexual heirarchy based on looks, and how they are gonna behave for the rest of their lives.

100% true

The problems for incels start at this stage. Ascribing any kind of "purity" to teen love is massive gigacope. Plus, getting mentally crippled by lonely teen years is a cope as well. What people call "developmental milestones" is basically the same training described above. You did not miss any milestone, you actually hit all the developmental milestones to become an ugly lonely incel.

AND
You are fucking retarded.

Being sexually active is required to grow up as people and develop; you need that experience to give you confidence and care about how people perceive you.

"Developmental milestones" is not this subjective thing.
 
well you can't "catch up", but if you fix your looks somehow, you can get a slice of the pie, which is what our biology trains us to do.

unfortunately every girl is a used up whore so serious relationships are basically off the table unless you want to be a cuck
You are right. This institution(or whatever you wanna call it) of teen love is built against us. It makes us want something we could never have by design. And then leaves us to betabuxx for a used up hoe(if any of us even manage that much).

Incel interests do not lie in getting teen love. It lies in ending teen love.
100% true



AND
You are fucking retarded.

Being sexually active is required to grow up as people and develop; you need that experience to give you confidence and care about how people perceive you.

"Developmental milestones" is not this subjective thing.
I disagree with the idea that 15 years old need to fuck to sexually grow up. There are plethora of cultures all across the planet, I have seen western "teen love", child marriages, African tribal beliefs regarding maturity. Conservative puritan cultures. People do not turn out that differently due to differences in their teen sex experiences as you may think.

The only downside is in places with dating culture, where at a certain age you are expected to have sexual and dating experience. But this culture oppresses incels to begin with.
 
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Being sexually active is required to grow up as people and develop; you need that experience to give you confidence and care about how people perceive you.
It's not sex which is required, but healthy relationships with the opposite sex along with people in general.
"Developmental milestones" is not this subjective thing.
I believe that it's extremely subjective. For instance, I don't think that most khhv men would feel anywhere near as bad about it if it weren't seen as even remotely shameful, and it was normal for people to be virgins at 20, 25, or whatever. Even the word "incel" makes it worse, it's admitting to yourself that you're unwanted. Tbh it takes a lot to move beyond that, to realize that even if you don't get validation from other people, even if they don't want you, that you're okay, and that you don't really need their approval.

The primary damage done to you for having failed to meet society's expected milestones comes in the form of social exclusion and alienation.
 
>he thinks teen love is a real thing and it’s just not lusting for chad’s cock disguised as love

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Teen love is a meme. The actual essential milestone for a man is to stick his dick inside a prime foid
 
Teen love is a meme. The actual essential milestone for a man is to stick his dick inside a prime foid
pretty much. Thing is incels buy into this meme. Love=free choice to fuck chad.
 
I wish I experienced it though
 
All i want is a prime jb to deflower with my pp. :cryfeels:
 
100% true



AND
You are fucking retarded.

Being sexually active is required to grow up as people and develop; you need that experience to give you confidence and care about how people perceive you.

"Developmental milestones" is not this subjective thing.
 
Teen love is just a training ground for foids to become cock carousal riding hypergamous whores, Chads to become harem masters and normies to become beta-simp orbiters and jesters.

But before all that, its basically a disney channel movie. Only difference is that they dont stay together forever.

you actually hit all the developmental milestones to become an ugly lonely incel.

Technically true, but these 'milestones' are more so just the result of not hitting the milestones that turn you into a fully functional normie adult
 
But before all that, its basically a disney channel movie. Only difference is that they dont stay together forever.



Technically true, but these 'milestones' are more so just the result of not hitting the milestones that turn you into a fully functional normie adult
all this could be avoided if chastity and monogamy were brought back. The fear of punishment and shame could keep teen foids from guzzling chad cock and becoming used up hoes.
 
all this could be avoided if chastity and monogamy were brought back. The fear of punishment and shame could keep teen foids from guzzling chad cock and becoming used up hoes.
Damn straight man
 
Teen love is just a training ground for foids to become cock carousal riding hypergamous whores, Chads to become harem masters and normies to become beta-simp orbiters and jesters. This is where everyone learns their place in the sexual heirarchy based on looks, and how they are gonna behave for the rest of their lives.

The problems for incels start at this stage. Ascribing any kind of "purity" to teen love is massive gigacope. Plus, getting mentally crippled by lonely teen years is a cope as well. What people call "developmental milestones" is basically the same training described above. You did not miss any milestone, you actually hit all the developmental milestones to become an ugly lonely incel.
I have so much rage I honestly couldn’t imagine doing anything but fucking tossing a foid off a cliff in Minecraft
 
This post is cope, teen love is the only love.
 
most of the time it's cope since most bitches are dog tier roasts with no capability to think of anything but chad and makeup. but fucking an innocent loli first means you win
Yeah, no shit lol.

And there is an element of purity. The one who fucked her first will forever own her. Any man who LTRs her later on will be getting the deflowerer's leftovers.
 
most of the time it's cope since most bitches are dog tier roasts with no capability to think of anything but chad and makeup. but fucking an innocent loli first means you win
umm, I think the girls we're talking about are a tad too old for your taste
 
umm, I think the girls we're talking about are a tad too old for your taste
I would never commit an unlawful act! I am a model citizen and will only penetrate a girl if she's over 14 :feelzez::feelsLSD:
 
I would never commit an unlawful act! I am a model citizen and will only penetrate a girl if she's over 14 :feelzez::feelsLSD:
hmmmm sure sure why not.
*le back office: Mr. Smith, note down the IP will ya
 
These teen love fags think they had a choice in the matter. They view their past with regret, but they couldn't have a choice in the matter either way.
 
These teen love fags think they had a choice in the matter. They view their past with regret, but they couldn't have a choice in the matter either way.
That's what I have been trying to say. The thing they want is build in a way thay they couldn't get it. Its built to keep prime fertile women away from ugly, low smv men.
Suifuel I know bit this pleasure is reserved only for chad. We shouldn't want the fruits of a system that benefits chad. We should want to bring down that system.
 
I believe that it's extremely subjective. For instance, I don't think that most khhv men would feel anywhere near as bad about it if it weren't seen as even remotely shameful, and it was normal for people to be virgins at 20, 25, or whatever. Even the word "incel" makes it worse, it's admitting to yourself that you're unwanted. Tbh it takes a lot to move beyond that, to realize that even if you don't get validation from other people, even if they don't want you, that you're okay, and that you don't really need their approval.

Questions of social norms are always reduced to one question: What is biological and what is constructed

Me personally, I think that social norms in regards to sexuality change based on both the environment and biology people find themselves in. Back then in the 2nd century when people married at age 12 - 16 and life expectancy was low with people dying in their 40s, with no birth control, of course it made complete logical sense to not have pre-marital sex, stone people who did as a deterrent. You risk impregnating women who aren't ready to start a family, spread diseases everywhere, etc.

Nowadays, we have birth control and abortion; sex has very little risk and a small risk in diseases. Our life expectancy in the West is in the late 70s, so people have much longer time before settling down and starting a family. And our biology has not caught up. We still have extremely reproductive urges that people back then did.

Society has adapted and now it's an expectation of society, informally of course, to have sex in order to get experience, because there's little immediate risk in doing so and it's unnatural biologically to not have sex in your teens.

I don't think that cultural changes, which are accepted en masse by people, happen arbitrarily, randomly, without purpose.
Society will NOT fully accept transgenderism naturally as it exists now, because it's not natural. Injecting estrogen and putting on a wig does not make one a biological woman.

We have accepted a "extreme whoredom" phase of "love" as a society because it's natural.
 
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Questions of social norms are always reduced to one question: What is biological and what is constructed

Me personally, I think that social norms in regards to sexuality change based on both the environment and biology people find themselves in. Back then in the 2nd century when people married at age 12 - 16 and life expectancy was low with people dying in their 40s, with no birth control, of course it made complete logical sense to not have pre-marital sex, stone people who did as a deterrent. You risk impregnating women who aren't ready to start a family, spread diseases everywhere, etc.

Nowadays, we have birth control and abortion; sex has very little risk and a small risk in diseases. Our life expectancy in the West is in the late 70s, so people have much longer time before settling down and starting a family. And our biology has not caught up. We still have extremely reproductive urges that people back then did.

Society has adapted and now it's an expectation of society, informally of course, to have sex in order to get experience, because there's little immediate risk in doing so and it's unnatural biologically to not have sex in your teens.

I don't think that cultural changes, which are accepted en masse by people, happen arbitrarily, randomly, without purpose.
Society will NOT fully accept transgenderism naturally as it exists now, because it's not natural. Injecting estrogen and putting on a wig does not make one a biological woman.

We have accepted a "extreme whoredom" phase of "love" as a society because it's natural.
Well even if I agree with you, something being natural doesn't make it good or valuable. Actually it's nearly always exactly the opposite, which is why our natural behavior needs to be restrained if civilization is to even exist at all, much less any advancement. You're definitely correct about the implicit expectation to get sexual experience as a teenager. But to what end? To have a lot of meaningless sex with essentially random people? Or to prepare for your inevitable failed future relationships? I struggle to see a purpose to any of it, and it seems horribly unappealing. But I suppose I'm in the minority there, most non-incels seem to be mostly okay with the current state of affairs. However it's shit like this which makes me wonder whether or not I'm sort of alien disguised as a human, or if there is some considerable distance which separates me from other people. Although who knows, maybe I'm just autistic.

If I engage with these thoughts, I then wonder if I'd even be better off if I weren't incel. I mean most of the stuff that bothers me is memories of being treated like garbage and rejected by other people. Obviously I have desires for physical closeness and sex which I can't fulfill, but it's not like these would ever really cease to bother me even if I were a normie. The desire doesn't go away the more you fulfill it, if anything it's the other way around. Otherwise people would be content in the knowledge that they could get these things if they wanted them, or that they've had them in the past. But that's just not what we see. So as far as I can tell, the only people who get to feel any measure of lasting satisfaction are those who can satisfy their desires constantly, or those who have reduced them to the point where they aren't really a bother, and both are in the extreme minority. At least among men anyway, as the former is sort of common for women. Although when you consider that women are genuinely Chadsexuals, it's probably at least somewhat less common than we think, especially for older women.

When you set aside sexual deprivation and skin hunger, most of the pain caused by inceldom is constructed within our own minds. We might think that we should be doing something because other people are, or that we're worse off for being incel than we really are. If you're a khhv, the knowledge that nobody ever told you that you're good enough is ever-present. Once you accept that even if you got to fulfill your urges a few times, that the problem would still be there, it becomes clearer that a lot of our problems come from not being validated by other people, along with the aforementioned physical deprivation which isn't even unique to us. The thing is, you don't actually have to care about getting validation from women or really anybody else. You can stop caring about validation entirely, or if that doesn't work, then there is nothing stopping you from fulfilling this subjective need artificially, since you've already accepted that it's a mental construct anyway, albeit one that you didn't create intentionally.

What I'm getting at is that the concept of developmental milestones is subjective, and the reason is because the failure to meet milestones only exists when we examine our experiences in contrast to those of others, and they change depending upon the context. Just because you can explain a series of behaviors through genetic/environmental determinism or evolutionary biology, well it doesn't mean that our perception of failure is any less subjective. I suspect that people tend to project purpose and intent upon that which has none. Or alternatively, even if there is a purpose behind the natural world, I would argue that it's absolutely malicious and not worthy of respect. Either way, we don't actually have to care about whether or not we succeed in satisfying our urges, and we don't have to discern whether or not something is natural to decide if it has any value. Now I'll stop rambling as to avoid making this wall of text even longer.
 
This is a teracope post. Many normies, low tier normies and even subhuman tier guys ascend in teenage years because it’s the time period where standards are lower and everything is new. Sure at 18-19 they will be massive sluts in college, doesn’t mean the same thing applies for earlier teen years (12-17).
 

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