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Serious Sub8 is NOT a meme

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I see it over and over again that people claim that believing in sub8 theory is "a meme", "cope", or "low iq". It is neither, and most likely stems from a misunderstanding of what sub8 theory is actually claiming. It is NOT claiming only 8+ males are getting laid. It is also NOT claiming that only 8+ males get into relationships.

What sub8 theory is claiming is that in order for a female to be physically and aesthetically attracted to a male, he needs to be at least in the top 20% of male attractiveness.

There are multiple studies detailling how skewed male attractiveness is perceived by woman, one of them conducted in the classic blackpill article written by okcupid with the title "Your Looks and your Inbox".

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It shows that a mere 5% is deemed as attractive by woman, and that the average male is rated at about an 1/5. (For comparison, this is how male rate woman)

The following graph contrasts the perceived attractiveness for each gender in a more detailed and conclusive way (Source: Dataclysm)

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It's basic blackpill knowledge by now already that only a very small amount of the male population is seen as physically attractive by woman - you can see that the high attractiveness ratings from woman are barely existing.


Now, is it possible for a sub8 male to get sex or in a relationship? Of course it is. But in these relationships, woman aren't fully physically attracted to their partner - they are also known as beta bucks relationships, and generally have status and ressources as their basis.

Only Chad (8/10+ at best) can reap the benefits of looks-based, mutual physical attraction, the rest need to rely on paying the woman in another form (status, power, money,...). This is what sub8 law says. Sub8 in its essence concludes that it's either Chad (8/10+) for true attraction, or having to pay with some other things in order to attain sex or a relationship, that lacks TRUE AFFECTION.

IT'S EITHER CHAD (looks based actual attraction) OR BETA BUCKS (fake attraction based on ressources and other values).
 
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This is some major coping sub3 is the truth.
 
It's still a meme. You don't need to be 7+/10 in order to have women love you. JFL.
This is some major coping sub3 is the truth.
Agreed. If you're sub 3, it's absolutely over.
 
Should be sub6 tbh. 6 and 7s will have no problem getting a girl unless they are ultra spergs.
 
It's still a meme. You don't need to be 7+/10 in order to have women love you. JFL.

Agreed. If you're sub 3, it's absolutely over.
This is cope and/or denial. A woman can "love" a sub8 male for the ressources and other values he provides, but she won't find him physically attractive. A 8/10+ can just pay with his looks and receive actual affection.
 
This is cope and/or denial. A woman can "love" a sub8 male for the ressources and other values he provides, but she won't find him physically attractive. A 8/10+ can just pay with his looks and receive actual affection.

So a 7.99/10 can't get love? JFL, you understand the sub 8 meme is just a meme, right?
 
It's still a meme. You don't need to be 7+/10 in order to have women love you. JFL.

Agreed. If you're sub 3, it's absolutely over.
love == lust & emotional

yes you do.
So a 7.99/10 can't get love? JFL, you understand the sub 8 meme is just a meme, right?

how in the world would you quantify someones attractiveness to a 7.99? we're going by halves and wholes.
 
love == lust & emotional

yes you do.

Love is not lust, are you telling me your parents lust after you? Your family lusts after you? Come on, no wonder people don't take incels seriously anymore with these memes floating around.
 
One thing I'd say is that if you're 8/10, then you're not top 20%, more like top 0.1%.
 
Love is not lust, are you telling me your parents lust after you? Your family lusts after you? Come on, no wonder people don't take incels seriously anymore with these memes floating around.
You're confusing different types of love.

When a girl *falls in love* with you, she's physically and emotionally attracted to you.
When a girl *lusts* you she is physically attracted to you.

We're discussing other women loving you, not a parent's love for their child.
 
High IQ post.

People who don't buy into the 80/20 rule don't belong on this site.
 
So a 7.99/10 can't get love? JFL, you understand the sub 8 meme is just a meme, right?
7.99 is rounded up to 8, no one quantify looks that exactly anyway. Invalid argument. Also, sub8 is about actual attraction and not how a woman can "love" a 6/10 betabux.
 
High IQ post.

People who don't buy into the 80/20 rule don't belong on this site.

80/20 rule is real (and more like 90/10), but that is not what sub8 theory is.
 
One thing I'd say is that if you're 8/10, then you're not top 20%, more like top 0.1%.
That's a good point, since looks aren't evenly distributed, so for the sake of simplicity it should be assumed that only the top 10-20% males can receive actual attraction from woman, whatever that translates to the 1-10 scale.
 
That's a good point, since looks aren't evenly distributed, so for the sake of simplicity it should be assumed that only the top 10-20% males can receive actual attraction from woman, whatever that translates to the 1-10 scale.


It's a misunderstanding, attraction doesn't follow a normal 1/10 = 10%, 2/10 = 10%, 3/10 = 10%, and so on up to 100%, its actually graphed by a normal distribution, pictured below.

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You see, the top 20% actually represents the top 6/10 of men, whereas the top 8/10 men only represents about 5%, sub 8 is meme but only because normies (and most people on this site) don't understand normal distribution. It's a fallacy that people like to use when they argue. They only give you just enough of the story to prove their point, but don't examine it any deeper than that. A well thought, reasoned argument has to fully explain and seek to understand every single nuance. Most people don't care about the truth, however, only their own agendas


Like I said before, you only really need to be above average in order to attract women, but by being above average you end up being the top 20%, because 60% of the population fits into the average category, (4-6, betabuxx), and 20% are below average (incels, 1-4)
 
It's a misunderstanding, attraction doesn't follow a normal 1/10 = 10%, 2/10 = 10%, 3/10 = 10%, and so on up to 100%, its actually graphed by a normal distribution, pictured below.

iu


You see, the top 20% actually represents the top 6/10 of men, whereas the top 8/10 men only represents about 5%, sub 8 is meme but only because normies (and most people on this site) don't understand normal distribution. It's a fallacy that people like to use when they argue. They only give you just enough of the story to prove their point, but don't examine it any deeper than that. A well thought, reasoned argument has to fully explain and seek to understand every single nuance. Most people don't care about the truth, however, only their own agendas


Like I said before, you only really need to be above average in order to attract women, but by being above average you end up being the top 20%, because 60% of the population fits into the average category, (4-6, betabuxx), and 20% are below average (incels, 1-4)
I'd argue, as can also be seen on the graphs, that sub8 theory is still intact for looks-based attraction and that the 80/20 rule needs to be corrected to 95/5.
 
I'd argue, as can also be seen on the graphs, that sub8 theory is still intact for looks-based attraction and that the 80/20 rule needs to be corrected into 95/5.
Why? You have no evidence, all studies into attraction on dating sites and in real life confirm 80/20, I would post the OkCupid ones, but they got Ministry of Truthed by (((them))), amazing how they can simply destroy any evidence that they want with absolutely no repercussions. If anyone has those screenshots of the OkCupid studies please post them.


The Pareto Principle is really just a description of normal distribution curves that are present in everyday life.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/pareto-s-principle-the-80-20-rule-2275148


Here's one screenshot I found:

iu


As you can see, women not only find about 20% of men to be above average in attractiveness. I wish I had the full studies, but (((they))) took them down
 
Why? You have no evidence, all studies into attraction on dating sites and in real life confirm 80/20, I would post the OkCupid ones, but they got Ministry of Truthed by (((them))), amazing how they can simply destroy any evidence that they want with absolutely no repercussions. If anyone has those screenshots of the OkCupid studies please post them.


The Pareto Principle is really just a description of normal distribution curves that are present in everyday life.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/pareto-s-principle-the-80-20-rule-2275148


Here's one screenshot I found:

iu


As you can see, women not only find about 20% of men to be above average in attractiveness. I wish I had the full studies, but (((they))) took them down
I posted the study you are referring to in the original post...

Also you can see woman rate only about 5% as 4/5+.
 
I posted the study you are referring to in the original post...

Also you can see woman rate only about 5% as 4/5+.


But that's above average, you see they rate 20% at about average which makes sense as the entire dataset of what they find attractive would shift to the right.

They still find these men attractive is what I'm saying

Also, tbh I didn't read your post lmfao, I can see it now :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
 
You're confusing different types of love.

When a girl *falls in love* with you, she's physically and emotionally attracted to you.
When a girl *lusts* you she is physically attracted to you.

We're discussing other women loving you, not a parent's love for their child.

But you said "love = lust + emotional" which implies that lust is a part of love, which is not the case. Lust and love are separate things. I don't love a woman because I find her physically attractive, nor is it me lusting over her since I don't get the urge to fuck them.
7.99 is rounded up to 8, no one quantify looks that exactly anyway. Invalid argument. Also, sub8 is about actual attraction and not how a woman can "love" a 6/10 betabux.

Sub 8 is still a meme. You can't just round up ratings. If 4.5 is average, then you can't say "He's actually 5, so that makes him above average."
 
It's important not to get hung up on the term "sub-8". The point is that the vast majority of men do not get to experience raw, undiluted female sexual attraction, they have to bring other things to the table like money, security and stability. As your looks get further away from that threshold (which is handy to call 8/10), those other factors make up a greater proportion of a female's attraction to you.

I feel like I'm just paraphrasing OP but apparently it is necessary.
 
I agree with sub8 theory put that way. Yeah, women have insane standards, they'll only find you truly attractive if you're at the very least an 8.

That's why consent is a meme, we're not supposed to wait for women to find us attractive or consent.
 
It's a misunderstanding, attraction doesn't follow a normal 1/10 = 10%, 2/10 = 10%, 3/10 = 10%, and so on up to 100%, its actually graphed by a normal distribution, pictured below.

iu


You see, the top 20% actually represents the top 6/10 of men, whereas the top 8/10 men only represents about 5%, sub 8 is meme but only because normies (and most people on this site) don't understand normal distribution. It's a fallacy that people like to use when they argue. They only give you just enough of the story to prove their point, but don't examine it any deeper than that. A well thought, reasoned argument has to fully explain and seek to understand every single nuance. Most people don't care about the truth, however, only their own agendas


Like I said before, you only really need to be above average in order to attract women, but by being above average you end up being the top 20%, because 60% of the population fits into the average category, (4-6, betabuxx), and 20% are below average (incels, 1-4)
Titan-IQ.
 

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