Serious "social isolation" is a fucking meme

[jet112]

i keep seeing these new articles like "why so many people are choosing technology over people".
not only on normie news outlets but also on incel communities like r9k, people blame technology more often than not.

my stance on the issue is that social isolation is not voluntary (for the most part).
people don't really use technology to replace relationships, its just that more people are barred from social circles so they resort to technology
i don't know why socialogists are so fixated on the notion that social activity can be made out of thin air. in order to enter a social circle there has to be a set of rules, a set of standards. social science dropped the ball when they started to directly attribute social skills to social success.

this is not only a meme or a joke, this is a disgrace to science. personal development has barely any effect on your social standing

 

[Incellectual]

People have always been whining about "social isolation". Before the internet people said TV were causing everyone to be socially isolated. Before that it was the news papers and books that were blamed for social isolation. I think no matter what technology is around there are going to be people left out and people who want to be left alone. Apparently there are more introverts than extroverts on average anyways so I'm sure that plays a role in this too.

 

[Mainländer]

Interacting with people through the internet is fine. The real isolation that matters is isolation from pussy.

 

[Total Imbecile]

Only men suffer like this too, womens lives have never been better

Im running out of analogies to describe how easy being a woman is

 

[Colly]

Yeah it's hard to not be anti-social when you have no friends/nobody wants to hang out with you

 

[jet112]

People have always been whining about "social isolation". Before the internet people said TV were causing everyone to be socially isolated. Before that it was the news papers and books that were blamed for social isolation. I think no matter what technology is around there are going to be people left out and people who want to be left alone. Apparently there are more introverts than extroverts on average anyways so I'm sure that plays a role in this too.

what annoys me even more is those people that go "UGHH PEOPLE, LET HUMANITY DIE ALREADY XDD"
yeah right.. all of this pretending and bullshit is not helping us getting ahead. i maintain that most incels are have excellent social skills.

 

[mylifeistrash]

what annoys me even more is those people that go "UGHH PEOPLE, LET HUMANITY DIE ALREADY XDD"
yeah right.. all of this pretending and bullshit is not helping us getting ahead. i maintain that most incels are have excellent social skills.

i'll maintain most chads and stacies keep their socializing simplestic as possible and don't even have to try

social skills are a meme. it's just your looks and how people respond to you

 

[Evildoer]

Interacting with people through the internet is fine. The real isolation that matters is isolation from pussy.

Please note that there are barely any cases when somebody is depressed because of having no friends, this is often used as an excuse, but not the case. In the same time, there are plenty of cases where people suffer serious mental problems and/or fail in proper mental development as a teen for not being able to get laid.

 

[Mainländer]

Please note that there are barely any cases when somebody is depressed because of having no friends, this is often used as an excuse, but not the case. In the same time, there are plenty of cases where people suffer serious mental problems and/or fail in proper mental development as a teen for not being able to get laid.

Recognizing that would make foids look bad so the status quo just shuns it.

 

[mylifeistrash]

Please note that there are barely any cases when somebody is depressed because of having no friends, this is often used as an excuse, but not the case. In the same time, there are plenty of cases where people suffer serious mental problems and/or fail in proper mental development as a teen for not being able to get laid.

legit

all of this shit is just "girls don't want me and i feel like shit over it . i cope with technology"

 

[WarriorSkull]

Technology certainly enables a lot of this behavior. Perhaps it even incentivizes it.

However, I think the problem is this obsession with freedom and choice. Freedom has bred a society where we must choose every little thing in our lives. Human's did not evolve to have so much choice. We are meant to have many limitations placed on us by nature, but our pattern recognition and ability to communicate gave us the ability to work things out between ourselves and the environment and ourselves and tribesmen.

Now when everything is a choice, your choices are reflections of who you are. It is logical to assume you would associate with the best people if they would have you, so having relationships with anyone less drags down your perceived worth. Can you imagine just how much you would have to offer someone for them to make this personal sacrifice in order to maintain a relationship with you if this is the case? Equilibrium is so difficult to achieve when everyone is looking for another to lift them up, but the only people capable of lifting you up are going to get dragged down in the process.

 

[jet112]

Technology certainly enables a lot of this behavior. Perhaps it even incentivizes it.

However, I think the problem is this obsession with freedom and choice. Freedom has bred a society where we must choose every little thing in our lives. Human's did not evolve to have so much choice. We are meant to have many limitations placed on us by nature, but our pattern recognition and ability to communicate gave us the ability to work things out between ourselves and the environment and ourselves and tribesmen.

Now when everything is a choice, your choices are reflections of who you are. It is logical to assume you would associate with the best people if they would have you, so having relationships with anyone less drags down your perceived worth. Can you imagine just how much you would have to offer someone for them to make this personal sacrifice in order to maintain a relationship with you if this is the case? Equilibrium is so difficult to achieve when everyone is looking for another to lift them up, but the only people capable of lifting you up are going to get dragged down in the process.

great analysis and i tend to agree with most of what you write
but i think ultimately most people want to be in great social circles where they can share their experiences. wouldn't you want to have a different adventure every day? instead of sitting in front of your computer screen all day that is.
media becomes dull. we usually play the same games and go into the same websites. i hardly know a person that plays a different game every day, or alternatively read about something new every day. eventually being this static, this isolated will drive you into madness or boredom
think about this, if you find people on the Internet to be amusing.. then why people in real life are not amusing? this might suggest that you are not socially isolated as you raised to believe

 

[WarriorSkull]

great analysis and i tend to agree with most of what you write
but i think ultimately most people want to be in great social circles where they can share their experiences. wouldn't you want to have a different adventure every day? instead of sitting in front of your computer screen all day that is.
media becomes dull. we usually play the same games and go into the same websites. i hardly know a person that plays a different game every day, or alternatively read about something new every day. eventually being this static, this isolated will drive you into madness or boredom
think about this, if you find people on the Internet to be amusing.. then why people in real life are not amusing? this might suggest that you are not socially isolated as you raised to believe

Well to address the quote in your post, "people are choosing technology over relationships", it is not so much that people are being presented with a smartphone on one hand and group of friends in the other. It is more that people are being driven to choose ever newer, better people through technology. The trouble is so many are spending all their time constantly searching for somebody better. Foids glued to their phones, swiping on tinder as they're out with their current boyfriends or getting 1k updoots for their silly face post on snapchat by their army of orbiters aren't choosing the apps over people, but it is all they're really left with at the end of the day.

Naturally, this applies to those in a position to do the choosing. To your point, the rest of us are forced to forever search for people through the same technology whilst never being chosen, if only briefly, ourselves.

 

[TheCrusader0201]

Interacting with people through the internet is fine. The real isolation that matters is isolation from pussy.

 

[jet112]

Well to address the quote in your post, "people are choosing technology over relationships", it is not so much that people are being presented with a smartphone on one hand and group of friends in the other. It is more that people are being driven to choose ever newer, better people through technology. The trouble is so many are spending all their time constantly searching for somebody better. Foids glued to their phones, swiping on tinder as they're out with their current boyfriends or getting 1k updoots for their silly face post on snapchat by their army of orbiters aren't choosing the apps over people, but it is all they're really left with at the end of the day.

Naturally, this applies to those in a position to do the choosing. To your point, the rest of us are forced to forever search for people through the same technology whilst never being chosen, if only briefly, ourselves.

great points being made here.

but i think it goes beyond tinder and social validation, maybe im not thinking like the average normie. but whats the point of constantly looking to upgrade your social circles than to find one that is solid and gives you satisfaction?
are normies constantly engaged in the pursuit of the next big thing? or maybe they are so shallow that they can't truly relate to anyone?
interesting topic indeed. id appreciate your perspective

 

[Deleted member 4159]

people don't really use technology to replace relationships, its just that more people are barred from social circles so they resort to technology
i don't know why socialogists are so fixated on the notion that social activity can be made out of thin air.

I remember in Uni, I was concerned that I was spending too much time on my smartphone instead of socializing. I swapped to a flip phone, and tried to socialize in class. Guess what.... everyone else is glued to their phones. While I agree with you that people use technology in a hypergamous way, they also use it to maintain their current social circle. Why go out and approach new people when you have your friends at the palm of your hand? Also, it's way easier to hit on a girl on tinder than it is to go out and cold approach.