Discussion Simp Theory: What Causes Simp Behavior

[endofdopamine]

We all know that some men will simp for women through donations online, whiteknighting, orbiting, and so forth.

However, we often do not consider a parallel behavior that women display towards high value males that also appears to be a form of simping.

For instance, when women pretend that what a man is saying is funny even if it is not meant to be funny, or when a woman ignores an attractive man’s obvious flaws (as seen from many catfishing experiments) because he is attractive.

There is a clear parallel to how certain women online aggregate simps and how certain men online (esp. in the context of Tinder) aggregate women (this is commonly presented as the 80/20 or Pareto principle).

I think the existence of simp behavior itself is interesting because forms of generosity are often seen as disingenuous in the context of the blackpill. In other words, if people are greedy and only looking for benefits for themselves, why would they give away resources, effort, and time through simp behavior?

I think simp behavior is, more broadly, a strategy to get the favor or attention of someone that is attractive or valuable in some way that would not usually give you attention. Being the simp-er automatically creates a hierarchy between the person giving and the person receiving the benefit, and thus it is a social transaction that results in further social inequality.

Let me know your thoughts.

 

[NEETard]

Idk why simps exist but i hate them

 

[TINMAN]

It is desperation and lack of self-worth. Simps have been brainwashed by feminist propaganda all their lives that men are weak compared to women, that men are evil and deserve to be punished, that men are the root of all problems, and that the opinions of men do not matter.

Is it really such a surprise that they might have internalized these beliefs and that it is affecting their subconscious behaviour?

 

[endofdopamine]

It is desperation and lack of self-worth. Simps have been brainwashed by feminist propaganda all their lives that men are weak compared to women, that men are evil and deserve to be punished, that men are the root of all problems, and that the opinions of men do not matter.

Is it really such a surprise that they might have internalized these beliefs and that it is affecting their subconscious behaviour?

I find the internalization of beliefs critical of one’s identity difficult to accept, especially if such critical beliefs are spread by malicious agents (though this may not be obvious). My own first reaction would be to reject those such critical beliefs, even if they are popular, or at least to put them under scrutiny.

If you tacitly accept punishing beliefs about your identity, then it is a serious problem for your self-esteem. I would say that’s why I find it surprising

 

[I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss]

I think the existence of simp behavior itself is interesting because forms of generosity are often seen as disingenuous in the context of the blackpill. In other words, if people are greedy and only looking for benefits for themselves, why would they give away resources, effort, and time through simp behavior?

It is desperation and lack of self-worth. Simps have been brainwashed by feminist propaganda all their lives that men are weak compared to women, that men are evil and deserve to be punished, that men are the root of all problems, and that the opinions of men do not matter.

Is it really such a surprise that they might have internalized these beliefs and that it is affecting their subconscious behaviour?

Humans are made to breed. You view it as generosity, it is not. It's an action made in order to blend your genetical material with the best genetical material you can find, and it seems like generosity (amongst other things) is a way to attract said genetical material when you lack the raw features like looks, height, etc.

Aka "I may not be chad/stacy but I have a great personnality since i share my things and take care of you. Will you copulate with me now?" theory.
Much of the human behavior boils down to breeding tbh.

 

[TINMAN]

I find the internalization of beliefs critical of one’s identity difficult to accept, especially if such critical beliefs are spread by malicious agents (though this may not be obvious). My own first reaction would be to reject those such critical beliefs, even if they are popular, or at least to put them under scrutiny.

If you tacitly accept punishing beliefs about your identity, then it is a serious problem for your self-esteem.

It's not something you have a choice in. When you are exposed to these things from birth, you have no point of reference from which to reject them, they become your reality. Even if later on in life you realize they are wrong you have already subconsciously accepted them and this conditioning is difficult or even impossible to erase.

I know this personally as I come from an abusive household and I have my own fair share of internalized abuse that I still struggle with even 10-20 years later. Even though I consciously reject the things I was exposed to, my subconscious still believes them. Now imagine someone who has no self-awareness, they would simply take it as their reality, this is how brainwashing works.

 

[endofdopamine]

It's not something you have a choice in. When you are exposed to these things from birth, you have no point of reference from which to reject them, they become your reality. Even if later on in life you realize they are wrong you have already subconsciously accepted them and this conditioning is difficult or even impossible to erase.

I know this personally as I come from an abusive household and I have my own fair share of internalized abuse that I still struggle with even 10-20 years later. Even though I consciously reject the things I was exposed to, my subconscious still believes them. Now imagine someone who has no self-awareness, they would simply take it as their reality, this is how brainwashing works.

I see what you mean now. It becomes integrated into you before you realize and it is not something your conscious mind can remove just by thinking through it because it is already a basis for thought in some sense.

Humans are made to breed. You view it as generosity, it is not. It's an action made in order to blend your genetical material with the best genetical material you can find, and it seems like generosity (amongst other things) is a way to attract said genetical material when you lack the raw features like looks, height, etc.

Aka "I may not be chad/stacy but I have a great personnality since i share my things and take care of you. Will you copulate with me now?" theory.
Much of the human behavior boils down to breeding tbh.

I mean generous in the sense that donating $2000 is a lot of money rather than as a kind act, but I see what you mean by relating simp behavior to sexual strategy.

What I’m not comfortable with I guess is the lack of control this implies that most people have over their own behavior. Are simps not responsible for their own actions then if it something subconscious or done as a sexual strategy rather than something done more through their choice?

 

[I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss]

I mean generous in the sense that donating $2000 is a lot of money rather than as a kind act, but I see what you mean by relating simp behavior to sexual strategy.

What I’m not comfortable with I guess is the lack of control this implies that most people have over their own behavior. Are simps not responsible for their own actions then if it something subconscious or done as a sexual strategy rather than something done more through their choice?

Choice is a mere illusion my friend.
You think that they thoughtfully weighted the decision to give 2000$ or not. They didn't, they acted on pure instinctive impulse. They had the illusion that they made the choice rationally.
The conscious mind is a lazy mind. It uses too much ressources so the body homeostasis tend to shut it down as soon it's not needed and switched on only when it's truly necessary.

It reminds me of this study where humans usually think they prefer this type of food rather than the other one, but in fact it was their gut bacteria that signalled to their brain what to eat. Once gut bacteria was changed, the preference towards food changed too.
A mere illusion.

 

[Ap0calypse]

It’s all genetics. Just like looks, genetics plays a colossal role in your neurological landscape and potential.

It’s why we still have cucks despite them being treated like dirt by females.

 

[endofdopamine]

Choice is a mere illusion my friend.
You think that they thoughtfully weighted the decision to give 2000$ or not. They didn't, they acted on pure instinctive impulse. They had the illusion that they made the choice rationally.

It reminds me of this study where humans usually think they prefer this type of food rather than the other one, but in fact it was their gut bacteria that signalled to their brain what to eat. Once gut bacteria was changed, the preference towards food changed too.
A mere illusion.

Damn, I might be giving too much credit to free will and being able to reflect and think about one’s actions. I’d just like to believe that simps have some chance at redemption, that they aren’t chained to impulses for the rest of their lives.

It’s all genetics. Just like looks, genetics plays a colossal role in your neurological landscape and potential.

It’s why we still have cucks despite them being treated like dirt by females.

So cucks and simps form an underclass that supports females, and none of it is their choice like in a Brave New World-esque setting?

 

[I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss]

Damn, I might be giving too much credit to free will and being able to reflect and think about one’s actions. I’d just like to believe that simps have some chance at redemption, that they aren’t chained to impulses for the rest of their lives.

So cucks and simps form an underclass that supports females, and none of it is their choice like in a Brave New World-esque setting?

There is free will. I am not denying it.
But the conscious mind is a lazy mind. It uses too much ressources so the body homeostasis tend to shut it down as soon it's not needed and switched on only when it's truly necessary.
So most of our choices were already made by our subconscious.

 

[Ap0calypse]

Damn, I might be giving too much credit to free will and being able to reflect and think about one’s actions. I’d just like to believe that simps have some chance at redemption, that they aren’t chained to impulses for the rest of their lives.

So cucks and simps form an underclass that supports females, and none of it is their choice like in a Brave New World-esque setting?

I remember in the book, the government used soma to control the population. I wouldn’t be surprised if the government ends up using similar means..

Cucks feel rewarded by submitting to females, it’s just how their brain works. We are like different organisms compared to them.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

I’d say the cause of a man turning into a simp is that he is easily brainwashed. I remember when all of my friends turned to simps. One girl would come around and they’d all compete for her in a way, when realistically none of them would get her as their girlfriend. I didn’t really compete when this happened, instead I stood back and was like “this really what y’all niggas doing bruh?”.

 

[slimshady]

Simping is i guess a kind of mental disease caused due to attraction. It is very simple, they want attraction from the opposite person so they do everything to make them feel like that they really care about them. There should be a different word for women's simping. Women simping is invisible for bluepilled fools. But I feela absolute cringe when foids simp. Their simping is acting cute and childish infront of chads. Back in school these chads asked these foids to do their homework for them to which these simping women would first do a cute kind of protest (I don't know how to explain it) and then would do their homeworks and drawings any way.

Simping women change their compelete personallity infront of chads. If a chad does some sarcasm and these foids laugh hard at it and act all weird. By seeing this bluepillers also try this shit but of course it never works for them. Infront of incels they again change their personality and become some kind of mean alien creatures or having no interest. I already have said about this theory of foids having no personality at all, they just change their behavior from chad to incel. Their only aim is to some how get chads put their dicks into them.

 

[endofdopamine]

I’d say the cause of a man turning into a simp is that he is easily brainwashed. I remember when all of my friends turned to simps. One girl would come around and they’d all compete for her in a way, when realistically none of them would get her as their girlfriend. I didn’t really compete when this happened, instead I stood back and was like “this really what y’all niggas doing bruh?”.

This reminds me of those historical stories where you have a small territory that is next to a number of larger countries, and the small territory enriches itself by playing the larger countries’ interests against each other.

Simping is i guess a kind of mental disease caused due to attraction. It is very simple, they want attraction from the opposite person so they do everything to make them feel like that they really care about them. There should be a different word for women's simping. Women simping is invisible for bluepilled fools. But I feela absolute cringe when foids simp. Their simping is acting cute and childish infront of chads. Back in school these chads asked these foids to do their homework for them to which these simping women would first do a cute kind of protest (I don't know how to explain it) and then would do their homeworks and drawings any way.

Simping women change their compelete personallity infront of chads. If a chad does some sarcasm and these foids laugh hard at it and act all weird. By seeing this bluepillers also try this shit but of course it never works for them. Infront of incels they again change their personality and become some kind of mean alien creatures or having no interest. I already have said about this theory of foids having no personality at all, they just change their behavior from chad to incel. Their only aim is to some how get chads put their dicks into them.

This seems almost to be a default human behavior to get something that’s out of immediate reach. Then, are there alternatives to getting on someone’s good side besides simping? The whole setup feels very transactional even though I would think humans as a group would turn more greatly to cooperation. How does one justify multisimping? It just seems like a bad strat overall to get something.

 

[Yerberito]

Simps gona simp

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

Plenty of men are simps

 

[Deleted member 18193]

not being blackpilled