Serious Should I join the army?

[VisVoi]

Pros

• Will become more masculine.
• Will earn money (not much but it's better than nothing)
• Will become very physically fit
• May develop greater social/leadership skills
• May find a sense of belonging instead of being a socially isolated recluse
• Will give me valuable life experience instead of being completely sheltered

Cons

• May be killed, maimed, or psychologically harmed
• May be killed, maimed, or psychologically harmed
• May fail training or not be able to fit in with other soldiers and leave with even lower self esteem than when I joined
• I'd be risking my life fighting in a war that I do not agree with
• I'd be risking my life fighting for a government (UK) that I don't like
• I'd be risking my life to "protect" people that do not like me

 

[janoycresva]

It won’t make you more physically fit, the military fitness standards are shit and are probably detrimental towards an actual combat scenario.

If leadership skills is something you want, go the officer route.

It’ll just be like any other job for the most part after training, except it’ll be riddled with the con of going through various bureaucracies all of the time. You will most likely never see full on combat or get killed; former Sergeant Major of CAG (also ex Army Ranger and Army SF) said that only .6% of the military actually ever sees real combat. So, you will most likely not be doing cool shit that will make you more manly and give you actual purpose unless you’re SOF.

My advice. If you want to find purpose, develop a brotherhood, and become more manly you have to accept the risk of death and thrust yourself into a combat situation. The way to do this would be to join an elite SOF group. In the UK, I don’t know what the process is but you’d most likely have to be very fit before SAS try outs and will probably have to serve a few years in regular infantry. In general, you should show up to the military in better shape than what you will come out as after basic training. Basic Training should detrain you, not make you more fit.

Good luck.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

to serve Israel, no.

in fact Marxist-Leninist turned Orthodox National Socialist Louis-Ferdinand Celine had the right idea about jews:

1. All male Jews from 17 to 60 to be attached to front-line infantry units. None of these conscripts to rise above the rank of captain.
2. No other employment other than front-line infantryman to be permitted to any Jew in wartime.
3. Any breach of these laws punishable by death.

have them fight their own damn wars alongside their condemnable "comrades"

 

[Deleted member 5712]

If your army legs you do raids and pillage villages for women and children then I'd say yes go for it.
If this army is against men being men then I'd say don't even join. Fuck those guys.

 

[VisVoi]

It won’t make you more physically fit, the military fitness standards are shit and are probably detrimental towards an actual combat scenario.

If leadership skills is something you want, go the officer route.

It’ll just be like any other job for the most part after training, except it’ll be riddled with the con of going through various bureaucracies all of the time. You will most likely never see full on combat or get killed; former Sergeant Major of CAG (also ex Army Ranger and Army SF) said that only .6% of the military actually ever sees real combat. So, you will most likely not be doing cool shit that will make you more manly and give you actual purpose unless you’re SOF.

My advice. If you want to find purpose, develop a brotherhood, and become more manly you have to accept the risk of death and thrust yourself into a combat situation. The way to do this would be to join an elite SOF group. In the UK, I don’t know what the process is but you’d most likely have to be very fit before SAS try outs and will probably have to serve a few years in regular infantry. In general, you should show up to the military in better shape than what you will come out as after basic training. Basic Training should detrain you, not make you more fit.

Good luck.

Why would basic training detrain me? Poor nutrition and exercise that is too easy?

 

[Akkadian]

If its a NATO country, your basically joining Israels army so no

 

[Nemo9065]

Pros

• Will become more masculine.
• Will earn money (not much but it's better than nothing)
• Will become very physically fit
• May develop greater social/leadership skills
• May find a sense of belonging instead of being a socially isolated recluse
• Will give me valuable life experience instead of being completely sheltered

Cons

• May be killed, maimed, or psychologically harmed
• May be killed, maimed, or psychologically harmed
• May fail training or not be able to fit in with other soldiers and leave with even lower self esteem than when I joined
• I'd be risking my life fighting in a war that I do not agree with
• I'd be risking my life fighting for a government (UK) that I don't like
• I'd be risking my life to "protect" people that do not like me

Go to college and get a real job.

 

[Deleted member 126]

I actually joined the army but I thought it was retarded and quit during basic after a month.

 

[Deleted member 3291]

go for it if you have nothing for your future

 

[blackcel]

I joined the USMC when I was younger and it definitely wasn't a bad idea. A shit ton better than LDARing at home, that's for sure. No idea about the UK's military and my only experience with them was with this british unit that operated on the same base afghanistan. All I remember from them is meeting this one kid who I tried to talk to but I literally couldn't understand what the fuck he was saying even though he was supposedly speaking english. Had to have another british solder to translate for me. Also remember seeing one guy doing PT with a female, calling her a weak little bitch who can't exercise for shit.

 

[janoycresva]

Why would basic training detrain me? Poor nutrition and exercise that is too easy?

yes and not necessarily too easy, just useless for a combat scenario

 

[doomed 7]

fearing death is more brutal than death itself.
dying has never been a cons for army