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Should a person still care for aged parents if they were genuinly abusive?

SIR ETHNICCEL

SIR ETHNICCEL

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No. You're not entitled to care for parents under any circumstances.
 
would you help a parent who was caring and loving to you?
I'm in this situation now and there's levels to how far I'm willing to go.

Remember that if you're here: 1) Your parents failed in some regard, and 2) You're likely going to die alone without any help.
 
I'm in this situation now and there's levels to how far I'm willing to go.

Remember that if you're here: 1) Your parents failed in some regard, and 2) You're likely going to die alone without any help.
For example how did parents fail?
 
No. Not if they were genuinely abusive.
would you help a parent who was caring and loving to you?
I hail from a culture where this is the norm, even if they were abusive and nasty towards you. I only have my mother these days, and although she wasn’t always perfect. She did support me during the time I was a NEET. I struggle to really fall in line with the thought of leaving my mother behind.
I'm in this situation now and there's levels to how far I'm willing to go.

Remember that if you're here: 1) Your parents failed in some regard, and 2) You're likely going to die alone without any help.
It’s odd. I agree with this, yet I feel that the decision isn’t so easy for me. Sure. Maybe my mother failed me, but at the same time. Very few people actually care about me. And she’s one of those people.
 
No. Not if they were genuinely abusive.

I hail from a culture where this is the norm, even if they were abusive and nasty towards you. I only have my mother these days, and although she wasn’t always perfect. She did support me during the time I was a NEET. I struggle to really fall in line with the thought of leaving my mother behind.

It’s odd. I agree with this, yet I feel that the decision isn’t so easy for me. Sure. Maybe my mother failed me, but at the same time. Very few people actually care about me. And she’s one of those people.
its okay to care for old parents if they loved you. I was asking about pices of shit evil parents. Some evil shit parents do stuff to stop childrren progressing such as physcologicall /mental abuse , physicall abuse and such. Thats what I meant.
 
Nope. only if they loved and cared for you
 
its okay to care for old parents if they loved you. I was asking about pices of shit evil parents. Some evil shit parents do stuff to stop childrren progressing such as physcologicall /mental abuse , physicall abuse and such. Thats what I meant.
In that case no. For parents that have abused you. They don’t deserve your help. Helping such parents is cuck like behavior. You’re only setting yourself up for failure. You’re prolonging your own abuse, as it’s very unlikely for abusive people to leave such degrading behaviors behind.

Many religions and institutions say to honor thy Mother and Father. But there are lines that can be crossed… and if they crossed that line. They are undeserving of your attention and pity.
 
For example how did parents fail?
In my example, my parents, especially my Mom, will tell me repeatedly how much and loves and cares for me.

Financially, they always have. As best they can as they're stupid white trash, but that I'm grateful for.

However, she is also obnoxiously overbearing to the point it fucked up my mental state and she still is to this day in my 40s. She lied and gaslit me, like all women do. She acts like she cares, but when I needed help with things, she would usually brush it off or even mock me. Yet she'll brag about being the cleaning maid in my apartment when I told her repeatedly I don't want her to.

My Dad is an irrational hothead that will lose his temper at the simplest things. He means well, but I've never been able to talk to him about anything. It's known by the family you don't say anything to him.

Most importantly, I was diagnosed with autism at 37 years old and had to do it all myself. I was a virgin until age 38. I received zero help on how to socialize or assimilate with people whatsoever, with the only thing my Mom did was pressure me to give her grandchildren. How I was supposed to do that with no female interest or any idea what to do? *shrug*

So, the thought of going out of my way to help makes me feel ill inside. When I'm around them, I want to die. But, I do recognize they mean well. Thus, it's a shitty situation.

Apologies for my therapy session.
 
In that case no. For parents that have abused you. They don’t deserve your help. Helping such parents is cuck like behavior. You’re only setting yourself up for failure. You’re prolonging your own abuse, as it’s very unlikely for abusive people to leave such degrading behaviors behind.

Many religions and institutions say to honor thy Mother and Father. But there are lines that can be crossed… and if they crossed that line. They are undeserving of your attention and pity.
This, I should have left my parents for college in a different state, but I considered the pros and cons and realized it would be better if I moved with them.

Pros:
- I don't want to live in a dorm with other normies
- I have a basement of my own where I can fap without getting caught (I got caught by mom 2 times already)
- I get to live with my sister, who is the only female best friend (we played video games and watched many Minecraft videos when we were younger) I have and understands the blackpill, but to only a certain extent since she spits out bluepills to try and "help" me.
- I can use my parent's 4k flatscreen TV to play on my Xbox and earn Microsoft Rewards

Cons:
- I get mogged (i get mogged everywhere, but I swear every male on campus is 6ft or over). I had one 7ft dude just look down at me and smile like I was a kid when I was done taking a piss...the mog was brutal.
- All the woman are the same height as me or over, even the ethnic ones. I saw an Indian woman who was probably over 6ft in height mog all the women in my CHEM lab.
- I am a currycel so the mog never ends no matter where I go
 
I am gonna look after my parents
 
For me it depends. If i have the means to care for my mom i will
 
In my example, my parents, especially my Mom, will tell me repeatedly how much and loves and cares for me.

Financially, they always have. As best they can as they're stupid white trash, but that I'm grateful for.

However, she is also obnoxiously overbearing to the point it fucked up my mental state and she still is to this day in my 40s. She lied and gaslit me, like all women do. She acts like she cares, but when I needed help with things, she would usually brush it off or even mock me. Yet she'll brag about being the cleaning maid in my apartment when I told her repeatedly I don't want her to.

My Dad is an irrational hothead that will lose his temper at the simplest things. He means well, but I've never been able to talk to him about anything. It's known by the family you don't say anything to him.

Most importantly, I was diagnosed with autism at 37 years old and had to do it all myself. I was a virgin until age 38. I received zero help on how to socialize or assimilate with people whatsoever, with the only thing my Mom did was pressure me to give her grandchildren. How I was supposed to do that with no female interest or any idea what to do? *shrug*

So, the thought of going out of my way to help makes me feel ill inside. When I'm around them, I want to die. But, I do recognize they mean well. Thus, it's a shitty situation.

Apologies for my therapy session.
You really would’ve been better off if you had to be born an autist by having the same or similar parental situation Elliot Roger had while still being a white polish tallfag that is far less mentally ill than he was and closer to understanding the NT world and social cues than him and I say this because his dad tried to arrange for him to get with hookers while he was still young and even had a guy he knew try to smarten him up (teach him I think at least red pill level game and realities about women IIRC?) as well he got some of the goodies we all know about (ie BMW I believe it was and one or more gaming computers, fancy clothes and tickets to Hollywood A lister events etc) despite his father blowing the last of the family’s wealth on that stupid documentary of his.

Basically my point with the above is I think a young @Todd Thundercock would’ve thrived or if not quite thrived turned out at least somewhat happier and well adjusted with your situation with just a little more help and guidance such as that.

Elliot couldn’t really benefit from the above because he himself was far too mentally ill and he understandably wasn’t interested in prostitution because he wanted a woman to love him for him and give him sex for that reason alone and never because he paid for it but you and I both know that getting with paid whores at least takes the edge off of the sexual frustration part of things even if socially and romantically it makes you feel even lonelier and more like a loser in the end. Sigh.

Though indeed it can still be a useful cope and anger + stress reduction method.
 
that means they never abused you?
And even if parents did abuse us I doubt they did it because of malice in the souls, just circumstances and pressure.
 
You really would’ve been better off if you had to be born an autist by having the same or similar parental situation Elliot Roger had while still being a white polish tallfag that is far less mentally ill than he was and closer to understanding the NT world and social cues than him and I say this because his dad tried to arrange for him to get with hookers while he was still young and even had a guy he knew try to smarten him up (teach him I think at least red pill level game and realities about women IIRC?) as well he got some of the goodies we all know about (ie BMW I believe it was and one or more gaming computers, fancy clothes and tickets to Hollywood A lister events etc) despite his father blowing the last of the family’s wealth on that stupid documentary of his.

Basically my point with the above is I think a young @Todd Thundercock would’ve thrived or if not quite thrived turned out at least somewhat happier and well adjusted with your situation with just a little more help and guidance such as that.

Elliot couldn’t really benefit from the above because he himself was far too mentally ill and he understandably wasn’t interested in prostitution because he wanted a woman to love him for him and give him sex for that reason alone and never because he paid for it but you and I both know that getting with paid whores at least takes the edge off of the sexual frustration part of things even if socially and romantically it makes you feel even lonelier and more like a loser in the end. Sigh.

Though indeed it can still be a useful cope and anger + stress reduction method.
Yes. This is why I'm harsh on Elliot as he had many chances and choices in life that I could only dream of. Also, as you say, his parents really tried to help him with socialization.
 
I'm in this situation now and there's levels to how far I'm willing to go.

Remember that if you're here: 1) Your parents failed in some regard, and 2) You're likely going to die alone without any help.
my parents love me, and have good intentions, but they could not have made my life more tormenting if they wanted to, and i'm not exaggerating
 
no, my parents are getting old and theres not a chance in hell i'm caring for them
 
I don't have abusive parents. But if I did I would still feel bad if I knew they were struggling or being abused in their old age.
I think it would be better to reconcile and have closure for when they die.
 
For example how did parents fail?
In my case my father should have been intelligent enough to know that he came from a large family of poor genetic stock and therefore been responsible enough not to breed but ergo he either wasn’t due to those shit genetics or he was just plain selfish or both and made me with my equally dysgenic if not even moreso mother ie the only reason my mother is even still alive (she’s so dysgenic) is because of the miracle known as modern medical science ie she’s had tons of life saving surgeries but I digress.

Proof of my parents poor genetic quality other than me is my twin sisters who they had after me as they were so underdeveloped they had a whole host of health issues like cerebral palsy among being born way too soon that it’s more than obvious my parents had absolutely no business bringing children into this world.

Even “I” was born a bit too early and surprise, surprise I’ve been saddled with numerous physical and mental health issues perhaps at least partially as a result.

Morbid obesity, lymphedema, chronic exczema, underbite (corrected with braces), poor eyesight ie legally blind with double vision, flat footedness (helped with prescription shoe inserts) foot and lower leg tingling that may lead to full neuropathy in time, type 2 diabetes or metabolic syndrome which is a diabetes precursor, atrial fibrillation, seasonal allergies, dandruff etc, etc.

As for mental? Varying degrees of anxiety and depression. Had OCD pretty bad while much younger but it fortunately seems to have greatly diminished with age.
 

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