- Sep 8, 2020
- 155d 19h 0m
trust me, if you were 15 and looked as old and ugly as me at 15 while living in the eastern part of turkey, you would have had it a lot worse. even lower tier beckys in turkey want at least a 6ft+, white, 6/10, baby faced chadliteSocialzERo said:chad tr8, I'm nearly 18 and people assume I'm 13
I'm your height, 5 9 too but I won't grow anymore, you willZensfy said:trust me, if you were 15 and looked as old and ugly as me at 15 while living in the eastern part of turkey, you would have had it a lot worse. even lower tier beckys in turkey want at least a 6ft+, white, 6/10, baby faced chadlite
its fucking over
my parents are 5’4 & 5’9 so chances are i’m also not going to grow much taller either. i’m currently also trying to grow my hair out longer because when it’s short, people can see the balding parts of my hair jflSocialzERo said:I'm your height, 5 9 too but I won't grow anymore, you will
baby face is shit, I have it and the only thing that saves me from trueceldom is my emo hairstyle
Why do you think the state would ever need to intervene?PPEcel said:because it would be disproportionate for the state to intervene otherwise
Detro said:Why do you think the state would ever need to intervene?
Laws already cover rape, coercion, and power disparities.
There's no reason to believe that a 15 year old can consent to sex with a 15 or 18 year old but not a 20 or 30 year old.
You're an agecuck, your position makes no rational sense and the only reason you hold it is because you were raised in a culture were it's not allowed to be questioned ( if you do you're a creep and/or pedo ) so it's accepted as reasonable.
You won't find a single religion or pre-modern law system that says "16 year olds can marry, but only within this particular age range otherwise that's bad because the older party has too much experience "
Robtical said:Agecucks are either fakecel cockblocking whiteknights, or bluepilled soyfags. There's no reason to care about young foids fucking adults as an uncucked straight man. Not doing anything about abortion and male genital mutilation, but screaming like a pussy about young rosties getting fucked by adults should show you where their minds are at.
Age and accountability for crime is an entirely different topic.PPEcel said:
I'm not saying that the state shouldn't intervene when a 15-year-old has sex with someone who is also 15 or 18, I'm saying it would be potentially disproportionate to treat someone who is 15 or 18 the same way the system would treat someone who is 30. This should apply to every crime, not just sexual ones.
My position makes perfect sense; the main group of people here questioning my position are the ones who self-admittedly say they are attracted to 10-year-olds or those even younger, so it's obvious they're letting their sexual desires cloud their reasoning.
Yeah, and there's no reason to be against it either, normie problems aren't our problemsPPEcel said:I'll keep this as short as I can because I have a bad habit of being rather circumlocutory.
Obviously, this does not cover those users who express such desires purely in jest.
One of the more fascinating aspects of the pedocels on the forum is their -- well, I'll call it "pedonormativity". A very small but loud minority of individuals on this forum are attracted to and desire to have sex with children; which is fucked up, but it's not my place or that of anyone else to police their sexual fantasies, so long as they remain just that.
But the wannabe kiddie-fuckers go as far as to insist that their paedophilia is normatively desirable, suggesting that their deviancy is somehow morally upright for reasons that are best summed up as, well, "hurr durr young prime preteen virgin cunt". In the process, they imply if not outright suggest that if you are a 20-year-old male who is sexually attracted to 20-year-old femoids -- a perfectly natural and healthy train of thought -- you are somehow "less based" than they are because you are "cucked" enough to settle for "washed up loose roast beef flaps". It's hyperbolic to such a degree you'd expect the typical 25-year-old femoid to walk around with canes and hearing aids.
This I don't understand.
On the age of consent
The AOC should not materially affect actual incels in any way, even tangentially. There, I said it. Let's face it, do you idiots really think that you are going to "ascend" with a 13-year-old? That you will somehow be attractive to her? That you will be any less of an incel should the AOC be lowered to 14 or 12 or 9?
There is no reason to get hung up on the AOC unless you in fact want to rape little kids and not face any legal repercussions for it (barring any reasonable discussion on the proportionality and fairness of modern criminal justice systems). I don't understand why some think it's an issue worth talking about.
The politics of creepiness
The AOC brings me to another point; which is the claim advanced by the pedocels that paedophilia is outlawed because and only because normalfags consider it "creepy". It certainly does not help that the amateurs on CuckTears follow that line of argument. I will agree that "X is creepy" is a flawed justification for a state to proscribe X. As disgusting as raping a child is, there is no inherent wisdom in grounding law and jurisprudence in what are essentially visceral, emotional reactions.
What the Redditcucks should've brought up is John Stuart Mill's harm principle. From there you can arrive at the conclusion that 1) the state has a compelling governmental interest in protecting minors, and 2) normatively justifiable for the state to impose a minimum AOC in doing so. Some normies would ask, "At what age can individuals meaningfully consent?", but considering the degree to which the criminal justice system is interwined to this question, I prefer to ask this question instead:
In determining the AOC;
Wrong question: "At what point does an age disparity between sexual partners get creepy, justifying the intervention of the criminal justice system?"
Right question: "At what point does an age disparity between sexual partners become harmful to the degree that the state's compelling governmental interest in protecting minors outweigh any potential individual liberty interest, justifying the intervention of the criminal justice system?"
To be honest, I don't know where exactly the AOC should be -- all I do know is that an AOC should exist, for the same reason that there should be a minimum age for voting, smoking, driving, enlisting in the military, or running for public office.
It is not "agecuckery" to agree to an argument as basic as this one, and if you think that this somehow contradicts the tenets of the blackpill, you need to consider whether you're letting your sexual desires override your philosophical judgments.
Also this, it makes no sense that a 13 year old girl can just walk out of a bathroom after giving some highschool Chad a blowjob, but if she blows me next its rape because she's innocent, not "mentally developed" and unable to consentDetro said:Age and accountability for crime is an entirely different topic.
You have no rationale or logic to explain why someone would be able to consent to sex, but only with someone within an arbitrary age range of them.
It's always an appeal to emotion " b-but think about the gross old men who manipulate young women into sex?!?"
YESPPEcel said:Does this mean we should live in mud huts, shit on the ground like pajeets, and communicate to each other by engraving stone tablets? Because we've been doing that for thousands of years?