Blackpill Scientific proof that therapy is bullshit (Self improvement cels GTFIH now!)

[Deleted member 27249]

>We performed an umbrella review evaluating the current evidence of psychotherapy effectiveness for a wide range of outcomes in 247 meta-analyses. An impressive 80% of the meta-analyses report a nominally (P ≤ 0.05) statistically significant random-effects summary estimate that favours the experimental psychotherapy treatment. However, our results indicate that the effectiveness of psychotherapy is often exaggerated. Only 16 of the assessed meta-analyses found to provide convincing evidence indicating that several published meta-analyses in the field could be susceptible to biases. The most robust evidence was found for meta-analyses evaluating meditation therapy and CBT for anxiety symptoms, combination of mixed types of psychotherapy and CBT for depressive symptoms, CBT for tinnitus distress, mixed types of psychotherapies for mental health symptoms and daily functioning in irritable bowel syndrome,cognitive remediation therapy for cognitive functioning in schizophrenia, CBT and counselling for smoking cessation as well as computerized CBT for depression in insomniac patients. Hence, our findings suggest that the largest body of the published evidence is eventually ambiguous in the present field, including well-established treatments such as CBT.


https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.12713

 

[ShiiOfTheSPLC]

the reason there's so much hype around therapy nowadays is that the average normie is a narcissistic predator and nobody trusts their "friends" enough to show weakness or vulnerability around them. I'd much rather talk about personal shit with people on this forum than a "therapist"

 

[Atavistic Autist]

the reason there's so much hype around therapy nowadays is that the average normie is a narcissistic predator

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

>We performed an umbrella review evaluating the current evidence of psychotherapy effectiveness for a wide range of outcomes in 247 meta-analyses. An impressive 80% of the meta-analyses report a nominally (P ≤ 0.05) statistically significant random-effects summary estimate that favours the experimental psychotherapy treatment. However, our results indicate that the effectiveness of psychotherapy is often exaggerated. Only 16 of the assessed meta-analyses found to provide convincing evidence indicating that several published meta-analyses in the field could be susceptible to biases. The most robust evidence was found for meta-analyses evaluating meditation therapy and CBT for anxiety symptoms, combination of mixed types of psychotherapy and CBT for depressive symptoms, CBT for tinnitus distress, mixed types of psychotherapies for mental health symptoms and daily functioning in irritable bowel syndrome,cognitive remediation therapy for cognitive functioning in schizophrenia, CBT and counselling for smoking cessation as well as computerized CBT for depression in insomniac patients. Hence, our findings suggest that the largest body of the published evidence is eventually ambiguous in the present field, including well-established treatments such as CBT.


https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.12713

So drugs and meditation are really the only thing that work, and the rest is bullshit? Wow
Therapists are a meme at this point.

 

[HyperVersager_4EVER]

IT WON'T TOUCH THIS

 

[Deleted member 25513]

Therapy helps people who are going through transient periods of difficulty in their lives and need advice to get through it. Therapy won’t do anything if you have a legitimate chemical imbalance in your brain. Giving talk therapy to a schizophrenic is like giving talk therapy to a patient with corona and expecting their corona to go away

 

[Deleted member 27249]

IT WON'T TOUCH THIS

It's not a child, it's blackpill science. they don't touch black pill science

 

[BlkPillPres]

So drugs and meditation are really the only thing that work, and the rest is bullshit? Wow
Therapists are a meme at this point.

Those don't work either and are just as much of a meme solution, its just a placebo, nothing works other than simply accepting reality and being honest with yourself, drug and meditation is one escaping their problems, therapy is one trying to get someone else to solve those problems for them, people are literally paying therapists to guide them towards self realization, something they can do themselves, and paying for drugs and doing "muh meditation" is just pointless escapism, if it works as a placebo though it still "worked" I guess as the end result is the same, its a mental solution to a mental problem

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Those don't work either and are just as much of a meme solution, its just a placebo, nothing works other than simply accepting reality and being honest with yourself, drug and meditation is one escaping their problems, therapy is one trying to get someone else to solve those problems for them, people are literally paying therapists to guide them towards self realization, something they can do themselves, and paying for drugs and doing "muh meditation" is just pointless escapism, if it works as a placebo though it still "worked" I guess as the end result is the same, its a mental solution to a mental problem

Nah, it does show effectiveness probably from rewiring your brain directly. The mind is physically effected by the brain far far more than thoughts or life situations, if you can theoretically rewire the brain a certain way, you would process things differently (which I guess you can call a cope JFL).

 

[trashcel420]

>We performed an umbrella review evaluating the current evidence of psychotherapy effectiveness for a wide range of outcomes in 247 meta-analyses. An impressive 80% of the meta-analyses report a nominally (P ≤ 0.05) statistically significant random-effects summary estimate that favours the experimental psychotherapy treatment. However, our results indicate that the effectiveness of psychotherapy is often exaggerated. Only 16 of the assessed meta-analyses found to provide convincing evidence indicating that several published meta-analyses in the field could be susceptible to biases. The most robust evidence was found for meta-analyses evaluating meditation therapy and CBT for anxiety symptoms, combination of mixed types of psychotherapy and CBT for depressive symptoms, CBT for tinnitus distress, mixed types of psychotherapies for mental health symptoms and daily functioning in irritable bowel syndrome,cognitive remediation therapy for cognitive functioning in schizophrenia, CBT and counselling for smoking cessation as well as computerized CBT for depression in insomniac patients. Hence, our findings suggest that the largest body of the published evidence is eventually ambiguous in the present field, including well-established treatments such as CBT.


https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.12713

FUCK THERAPY.

 

[Deleted member 27249]

FUCK THERAPY.

amen

 

[iTheorize]

I don't know man, therapeutic drugs helped me through my depression after my brother died .

 

[Deleted member 27249]

I don't know man, therapeutic drugs helped me through my depression after my brother died .

Read the article. Drugs help. talking to a therapist doesn't

 

[Caesercel]

Living for a while in third world teaches you how bullshit therapy really is.
What therapy can help a manual labour, working all day and taking care of a family of six with 100 dollars per month?

 

[Deleted member 27249]

Living for a while in third world teaches you how bullshit therapy really is.
What therapy can help a manual labour, working all day and taking care of a family of six with 100 dollars per month?

amen

 

[joe_incel123]

Therapy is only for foid "problems" and not for actual problems.

 

[Deleted member 27249]

Therapy is only for foid "problems" and not for actual problems.

Super based take. Women don't have real problems

 

[Iwanttolive]

Therapy is for normies for have had a ideal state of lifestyle before(having a gf etc) n r jus going thru a rough patch. As for incels, there's nothing to return to.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

The jewpills have killed my feelings and sentiments. I am a complete robot right now.

 

[mgtow]

The jewpills have killed my feelings and sentiments. I am a complete robot right now.

The realization of which was the original congregation under r9k. It's thoroughly beyond recognition now.

 

[joe_incel123]

The jewpills have killed my feelings and sentiments. I am a complete robot right now.

You don't have to take them. I feel better with them. Better be a robot than feel clear how shit my situation is.

 

[iTheorize]

Read the article. Drugs help. talking to a therapist doesn't

Ah, yeah you're right, my mistake .

 

[Hate_my_life]

Therapy is only for foid "problems" and not for actual problems.

 

[AnonAutist]

The problem with therapy is that its geared towards normies and getting their lives back on track. Therapy is a classic case of 'for normies by normies'. Medicine and psychiatry can only really help the light to medium cases. As always, much like terminal cases of cancer or Alzheimer's or Parkinson's, the truly fucked up mental cases cannot be cured. Sufferers are sedated, are learned to cope with the (mental and physical) pain, impairments and the severely diminished life expectations and life prospects.

Obviously they won't tell you this going in. If you are truly fucked-up and broken they will try to gaslight you into accepting the low(er) standard of life to 1) make coping easier and 2) make sure you don't become a societal problem (homeless, criminal, terrorist or messy suicide) and keep colouring inside the lines. Michel Foucault and Gilles Deleuze showed in the 1960s and 1970s that psychiatry, just the police, are enforcers of normalcy and control.

 

[Merlinus]

Although I can't read the full study now, I guess it would make sense if therapy was only vaguely useful for "helping" with certain, specific psychological ailments as opposed to some one size fits all remedy as it's often peddled by norps.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

You don't have to take them. I feel better with them. Better be a robot than feel clear how shit my situation is.

tbhngl

 

[Shin no Shi]

So drugs and meditation are really the only thing that work, and the rest is bullshit? Wow
Therapists are a meme at this point.

The Rapists*ftfy

The problem with therapy is that its geared towards normies and getting their lives back on track. Therapy is a classic case of 'for normies by normies'. Medicine and psychiatry can only really help the light to medium cases. As always, much like terminal cases of cancer or Alzheimer's or Parkinson's, the truly fucked up mental cases cannot be cured. Sufferers are sedated, are learned to cope with the (mental and physical) pain, impairments and the severely diminished life expectations and life prospects.

Obviously they won't tell you this going in. If you are truly fucked-up and broken they will try to gaslight you into accepting the low(er) standard of life to 1) make coping easier and 2) make sure you don't become a societal problem (homeless, criminal, terrorist or messy suicide) and keep colouring inside the lines. Michel Foucault and Gilles Deleuze showed in the 1960s and 1970s that psychiatry, just the police, are enforcers of normalcy and control.

basically it's all one giant scam

 

[ReturnOfSaddam]

Yeah it's pretty crazy. It's like normies are just too polite to say "I don't care about your problems" so instead they just say "go and see a therapist brah".

Therapy is literally paying someone to pretend to be your friend. It's embarrassing.

Drugs however, they work. They can just fuck you over very easily too, sadly.

 

[Neggr]

IT WON'T TOUCH THIS

 

[ionlycopenow]

the reason there's so much hype around therapy nowadays is that the average normie is a narcissistic predator and nobody trusts their "friends" enough to show weakness or vulnerability around them. I'd much rather talk about personal shit with people on this forum than a "therapist"

Therapists are the new confession booths. State is taking over religion.

Yeah it's pretty crazy. It's like normies are just too polite to say "I don't care about your problems" so instead they just say "go and see a therapist brah".

Therapy is literally paying someone to pretend to be your friend. It's embarrassing.

Drugs however, they work. They can just fuck you over very easily too, sadly.

Like they did for me and will do for every other incel who tries them. Alcohol is the only one with no short term/long term side effects if you don't abuse it.

Read the article. Drugs help. talking to a therapist doesn't

It can, if he's blackpilled, intelligent, and knows basic CBT. But how rare do you think those are?

Therapy is only for foid "problems" and not for actual problems.

Agreed.

Therapy helps people who are going through transient periods of difficulty in their lives and need advice to get through it. Therapy won’t do anything if you have a legitimate chemical imbalance in your brain. Giving talk therapy to a schizophrenic is like giving talk therapy to a patient with corona and expecting their corona to go away

Things like depression and anxiety are NOT muh chemical imbalances. There is NO study that has ever 100% confirmed this. It's a meme pharma's push to sell their bullshit jew pills.