Blackpill Science confirms: The things you can easily change about yourself matter the least; the things you can't change (eg. face) matter more

[RageAgainstTDL]

Do you ever wonder why you can see fat Chads who still pick up hot girls? And yet ripped manlets are fucked no matter what they do?

It's a basic principle we've talked about here before - women are gene detectors. They do not care about anything you can easily change because that does not represent your core genes.

Within basic normal ranges:

- Your clothes don't matter.
- Your hairstyle doesn't matter.
- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
- Your physical fitness doesn't matter.
- How good of a person you are doesn't matter.

I mean - those things DO matter, but negligibly because anyone can change any of them if they really want and work hard. Women don't want men who "work hard." They want men who are genetically gifted in ways that hard work can't match.

Ie. Height/face/race.

Just found a study which describes the rationale for this depressingly enough. They are explaining why in their study facial attractiveness was most desired (by both men and women) over body attractiveness.

Quotes:

• The face advertises masculinity/femininity (Little, Jones, Penton-Voak, Burt, & Perrett, 2002), phenotypic quality, and resistance to developmental assaults, pathogens, and environmental stressors (Thornhill & Gangestad, 1994), and facial symmetry is associated with increased cognitive performance, greater genetic heterozygostity, greater fecundity, better health, increased longevity, lower parasite load, and lower rates of depression (Kowner, 2001).
• It appears as though both sexes want a long-term mate who has an attractive face over an attractive body. The information carried in a face signals developmental stability, resistance to pathogens, and phenotypic quality (Thornhill & Gangestad, 1994).
• Although facial attractiveness is surely important for short-term mates, it appears to be more valued in long-term mates by both sexes.
• A body may be more easily changed via diet and exercise whereas the structural traits of the face are resistant to change beyond drastic plastic surgery procedures. Stated another way, the face may be a better or more reliable cue to important phenotypic qualities despite the correlation between having a quality body and face (Thornhill & Moller, 1997).

References:

• Jonason PK, Raulston T, Rotolo A. 2012. More Than Just a Pretty Face and a Hot Body: Multiple Cues in Mate-Choice. The Journal of Social Psychology. 152(2): 174–184.

https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Bl...body_because_a_face_can.27t_easily_be_changed

In other words, the entire concept of "self improvement" like the red pill or normies advocate is based on a flawed principle. By definition if you have a bad face you will always be polishing a turd, which is of course an act of futility. Suifuel for those of us with shit faces. But it is what it is and I think we all know this intuitively.

 

[mylifeistrash]

Do you ever wonder why you can see fat Chads who still pick up hot girls? And yet ripped manlets are fucked no matter what they do?

It's a basic principle we've talked about here before - women are gene detectors. They do not care about anything you can easily change because that does not represent your core genes.

Within basic normal ranges:

- Your clothes don't matter.
- Your hairstyle doesn't matter.
- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
- Your physical fitness doesn't matter.

I mean - those things DO matter, but negligibly because anyone can change any of them if they really want and work hard. Women don't want men who "work hard." They want men who are genetically gifted in ways that hard work can't match.

Ie. Height/face/race.

Just found a study which describes the rationale for this depressingly enough. They are explaining why in their study facial attractiveness was most desired (by both men and women) over body attractiveness.

Quotes:

• The face advertises masculinity/femininity (Little, Jones, Penton-Voak, Burt, & Perrett, 2002), phenotypic quality, and resistance to developmental assaults, pathogens, and environmental stressors (Thornhill & Gangestad, 1994), and facial symmetry is associated with increased cognitive performance, greater genetic heterozygostity, greater fecundity, better health, increased longevity, lower parasite load, and lower rates of depression (Kowner, 2001).
• It appears as though both sexes want a long-term mate who has an attractive face over an attractive body. The information carried in a face signals develop-mental stability, resistance to pathogens, and phenotypic quality (Thornhill & Gangestad, 1994).
• Although facial attractiveness is surely important for short-term mates, it appears to be more valued in long-term mates by both sexes.
• A body may be more easily changed via diet and exercise whereas the structural traits of the face are resistant to change beyond drastic plastic surgery procedures. Stated another way, the face may be a better or more reliable cue to important pheno-typic qualities despite the correlation between having a quality body and face (Thornhill & Moller, 1997).

References:

• Jonason PK, Raulston T, Rotolo A. 2012. More Than Just a Pretty Face and a Hot Body: Multiple Cues in Mate-Choice. The Journal of Social Psychology. 152(2): 174–184.

Scientific Blackpill

The Scientific Blackpill is about understanding the nature of human social and sexual behavior with a particular focus on evolutionary psychological perspectives...

incels.wiki

In other words, the entire concept of "self improvement" like the red pill or normies advocate is based on a flawed principle. By definition if you have a bad face you will always be polishing a turd. Suifuel for those of us with shit faces. But it is what it is and I think we all know this intuitively.

If every man were forced to read all the black pill science shit you compiled, by how much % do you think the suicide rate would increase?

 

[fOreVER]

Well... at least we have zarrinbal to give us bsso and le fort 1 to improve our personalities

If every man were forced to read all the black pill science shit you compiled, by how much % do you think the suicide rate would increase?

Not a lot. Most men want to be bluepilled

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

If every man were forced to read all the black pill science shit you compiled, by how much % do you think the suicide rate would increase?

Oh god I don't even want to think about it. This stuff is depressing enough for me as it is. But the truth is the truth. What can you do.

 

[Napoleon de Jizzbal]

enlarge your penis

 

[Deleted member 17997]

enlarge your penis

 

[Zod]

Also muscles don't matter, that's why foids make fun of bodybuilders. Only bones matter, and the only soft tissue size that matters is dick size - ie. stuff you can't change

 

[iblamemyself]

The question is: has it always been this way? Or did foids start valuing face and height more, because it set Chads apart from the other men?

 

[mylifeistrash]

The question is: has it always been this way? Or did foids start valuing face and height more, because it set Chads apart from the other men?

Always probably.

Bodybuilders were always a joke and called gay even in the 1800s.

But tall men, even the 7+ freaks throughout history were always revered.

 

[Deleted member 20195]

- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
Really why do ugly but rich footballers get hot women?

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
Really why do ugly but rich footballers get hot women?
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I said "within normal ranges." Being a multimillionaire/billionaire celebrity is not "within normal ranges." That is the top 0.0000001% of the world.

The difference between an engineer making 200k and an office worker making 40k is "within normal ranges" and that difference doesn't matter. Put those two guys on Tinder and the better looking one will get the matches. The two job titles you list won't change anything.

 

[Gymcelled]

- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
Really why do ugly but rich footballers get hot women?
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How retarded are you? You're pointing at extreme status and money. This isn't achievable for 99+% of people. And he only got this status and money because he had the right genes and natural talent to be this good at sports. "Just be rockstar bro, just be the 1 in a million at a specific sport bro".

Plus he isn't even ugly, he has a better lower third than most.

When we say money doesn't matter, going from 50k/year to 100k/year won't make you attractive. And that's a much more realistic goal for more people.

 

[Insomniac]

enlarge your penis

 

[mylifeistrash]

- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
Really why do ugly but rich footballers get hot women?
View attachment 145130

They always get cucked and lose all their money then end up broke. All for some star fucker whore.

 

[tooth monster]

They always get cucked and lose all their money then end up broke. All for some star fucker whore.

 

[ChinaCurry]

How retarded are you? You're pointing at extreme status and money. This isn't achievable for 99+% of people. And he only got this status and money because he had the right genes and natural talent to be this good at sports. "Just be rockstar bro, just be the 1 in a million at a specific sport bro".

Plus he isn't even ugly, he has a better lower third than most.

When we say money doesn't matter, going from 50k/year to 100k/year won't make you attractive. And that's a much more realistic goal for more people.

High iq

- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
Really why do ugly but rich footballers get hot women?
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Can confirm, I was in Hugo Boss buying a suit and some shirts and he was also there, with the wife. Without that low iq hair he looks totally different, actually a Tyrone lite face, and she was dressed up as if she was in a Paris nightclub and she is a true genetic 10. He's Manlet btw, barely came up to my eyes, so just proves £4m a year is enough to overcome Manlet ism

 

[WizardofSoda]

One sad, sad thing is normies lying about their income on dating sites.

 

[Deleted member 20195]

I said "within normal ranges." Being a multimillionaire/billionaire celebrity is not "within normal ranges." That is the top 0.0000001% of the world.

The difference between an engineer making 200k and an office worker making 40k is "within normal ranges" and that difference doesn't matter. Put those two guys on Tinder and the better looking one will get the matches. The two job titles you list won't change anything.

Really how do you explain this then. Also Tinder is an outlier because its designed to swipe or see more based on just a picture.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

Can confirm, I was in Hugo Boss buying a suit and some shirts and he was also there, with the wife. Without that low iq hair he looks totally different, actually a Tyrone lite face, and she was dressed up as if she was in a Paris nightclub and she is a true genetic 10. He's Manlet btw, barely came up to my eyes, so just proves £4m a year is enough to overcome Manlet ism

Just be in the top 1% of income to get a girlfriend theory.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Really how do you explain this then. Also Tinder is an outlier because its designed to swipe or see more based on just a picture.

Tinder is the #1 dating mechanism. Online dating has overtaken everything and is continuing to rise exponentially pushing everything else out. All the most popular dating apps are now swipe based because as it turns out no one actually wants to read profiles and people just want to judge one another by pictures. Interestingly, bars and clubs are the only other mechanism on the rise and those are also primarily looks based.

• Online dating is now the primary way people meet for relationships

That experiment you posted was a poor one because the entire audience was full of post wall roasties who are only looking for betabux. Seriously half that audience looked basically menopausal. They also didn't contrast the money increase with a looks/race/height increase to see which was more valuable.

If you want to look at data on how money influences attractiveness, some of the better studies are pooled here:

• A man having the "correct" race, height, and face is worth millions of dollars to women
• Women orgasm more when having sex with rich men
• Men with much lower incomes then their wives are more than twice as likely to not have sex
• Photoshopping a man into a luxury apartment made women rate him as 30% more attractive

Money does matter but not tremendously. Even in that mythbusters you posted most only went up 16-18% or so for 4-5x the income. I am not aware of any studies showing money to be as powerful an influence in young women's sexual decisions as height/race/face, but if you know of any, I'm always open to it. I will always go with whatever the best data shows.

Even just from this study, one can see the weakness of money. Eg. It costs $247K extra income per year for an Asian man to be as attractive as a white man to a white woman. That is a massive money gap that most people can never bridge. The cost of height deficits is equally insane and almost impossible to bridge.

 

[Gymcelled]

Really how do you explain this then. Also Tinder is an outlier because its designed to swipe or see more based on just a picture.

 

[Cuyen]

enlarge your penis

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

"Maybe the only thing you could say is maybe the other four are murders."

She's virtue signalling. If the other four were murderers she would just want them more.

Height is one of the worse pills for shortcels. Again, unchangeable and nonnegotiable.

Most average ethnics are 5'7" which means >2/3 of women will reject us just for our height. Plus the 92-95% rejection rate based on our race for interracial dating.

And the fact that "women with a racial preference" act exactly the same as "women who don't have a racial preference":

Women won't reject a man for making 40K compared to 200K in the same numbers. The stats aren't close.

Look at just the data we've reviewed here and tell me what is most important.

 

[BlackWizard]

Really how do you explain this then. Also Tinder is an outlier because its designed to swipe or see more based on just a picture.

you are coping hard. money does not make men sexually attractive. even if some gold diggers find you as a suitable partner, so what? she just wants your resources and would be happy to take all of your stuff if you end up dead. looks and genes are the only elements that spark genuine sexual interest in women.

 

[theundeadburg]

Do you ever wonder why you can see fat Chads who still pick up hot girls? And yet ripped manlets are fucked no matter what they do?

It's a basic principle we've talked about here before - women are gene detectors. They do not care about anything you can easily change because that does not represent your core genes.

Within basic normal ranges:

- Your clothes don't matter.
- Your hairstyle doesn't matter.
- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
- Your physical fitness doesn't matter.
- How good of a person you are doesn't matter.

I mean - those things DO matter, but negligibly because anyone can change any of them if they really want and work hard. Women don't want men who "work hard." They want men who are genetically gifted in ways that hard work can't match.

Ie. Height/face/race.

Just found a study which describes the rationale for this depressingly enough. They are explaining why in their study facial attractiveness was most desired (by both men and women) over body attractiveness.

Quotes:

• The face advertises masculinity/femininity (Little, Jones, Penton-Voak, Burt, & Perrett, 2002), phenotypic quality, and resistance to developmental assaults, pathogens, and environmental stressors (Thornhill & Gangestad, 1994), and facial symmetry is associated with increased cognitive performance, greater genetic heterozygostity, greater fecundity, better health, increased longevity, lower parasite load, and lower rates of depression (Kowner, 2001).
• It appears as though both sexes want a long-term mate who has an attractive face over an attractive body. The information carried in a face signals developmental stability, resistance to pathogens, and phenotypic quality (Thornhill & Gangestad, 1994).
• Although facial attractiveness is surely important for short-term mates, it appears to be more valued in long-term mates by both sexes.
• A body may be more easily changed via diet and exercise whereas the structural traits of the face are resistant to change beyond drastic plastic surgery procedures. Stated another way, the face may be a better or more reliable cue to important phenotypic qualities despite the correlation between having a quality body and face (Thornhill & Moller, 1997).

References:

• Jonason PK, Raulston T, Rotolo A. 2012. More Than Just a Pretty Face and a Hot Body: Multiple Cues in Mate-Choice. The Journal of Social Psychology. 152(2): 174–184.

https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Bl...body_because_a_face_can.27t_easily_be_changed

In other words, the entire concept of "self improvement" like the red pill or normies advocate is based on a flawed principle. By definition if you have a bad face you will always be polishing a turd, which is of course an act of futility. Suifuel for those of us with shit faces. But it is what it is and I think we all know this intuitively.

yeah nothing you do matters

jestermaxing is the biggest cope

 

[SchrodingersDick]

Check out my signature..

@RageAgainstTDL youre doing god’s work with the scientific blackpill.

 

[The Abyss]

Really how do you explain this then. Also Tinder is an outlier because its designed to swipe or see more based on just a picture.

Bitches want money but if you're not Chad too they'll fuck other men on the side or divorce rape you. All these foids in the workplace are limiting the amount of men with high paying jobs. Money & career, able to leech off a man, free time to go shopping or whatever. They want the best of both sides of the coin, this is not feasible.

 

[WizardofSoda]

yeah nothing you do matters

jestermaxing is the biggest cope

New women's romance novel.. Woman turns down princes & chads.. falls in love with wristcel comedian with the best jokes.

 

[LastGerman]

She's virtue signalling. If the other four were murderers she would just want them more.

Height is one of the worse pills for shortcels. Again, unchangeable and nonnegotiable.

Wait... according to this graphic, you really have to be 7,2 feet tall?

 

[Gymcelled]

Wait... according to this graphic, you really have to be 7,2 feet tall?

It says 72in ... there are 12in in a foot.

 

[SchrodingersDick]

Wait... according to this graphic, you really have to be 7,2 feet tall?

72 inches is 6 feet tall

 

[Gymcelled]

"Maybe the only thing you could say is maybe the other four are murders."

She's virtue signalling. If the other four were murderers she would just want them more.

I know. It's called hybristophilia. And in a more general sense women are attracted to the dark triad.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Really should have figured this out earlier.
Noticed a long time ago that people with good bones in their face can just allow themselves to go fat, especially women, without losing too much of their status.
Guy becoming a screaming autist streamer with no job skills, girl deciding to just relax into being fat and working retail... no worries, no troubles finding partner.

 

[Subhumanism]

- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
Really why do ugly but rich footballers get hot women?
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Not ugly for his race, just a gay hairstyle (and she's looking ethnic too).

Really how do you explain this then. Also Tinder is an outlier because its designed to swipe or see more based on just a picture.

I think even the most desperate here wouldn't want to fuck an 80 years old grandma just because she's a billionaire (or perhaps some would try after swallowing a pack of Viagra). So why do you assume it's any different for women?

 

[Pinpoint]

Half True. And I've explained this already.
One proclamation that covers this much reality hardly ever is an absolutely true thing.

 

[Vermilioncore]

Science confirms it's over for many men

 

[Deleted member 18435]

yeah nothing you do matters

jestermaxing is the biggest cope

 

[LastGerman]

72 inches is 6 feet tall

It says 72in ... there are 12in in a foot.

Ohh...

 

[Gymcelled]

Really should have figured this out earlier.
Noticed a long time ago that people with good bones in their face can just allow themselves to go fat, especially women, without losing too much of their status.
Guy becoming a screaming autist streamer with no job skills, girl deciding to just relax into being fat and working retail... no worries, no troubles finding partner.

Yeah nothing really matters so long as you have face + height as a man. But it's so confusing when you don't know really how looks and attraction work, you see fat guys who somehow still look decent when they're fat. You see anorexic chads who are very successful with girls. Then you try every body type and nothing ever works. Lmao life is a cruel farce

 

[Deleted member 20195]

Tinder is the #1 dating mechanism. Online dating has overtaken everything and is continuing to rise exponentially pushing everything else out. All the most popular dating apps are now swipe based because as it turns out no one actually wants to read profiles and people just want to judge one another by pictures. Interestingly, bars and clubs are the only other mechanism on the rise and those are also primarily looks based.

• Online dating is now the primary way people meet for relationships

That experiment you posted was a poor one because the entire audience was full of post wall roasties who are only looking for betabux. Seriously half that audience looked basically menopausal. They also didn't contrast the money increase with a looks/race/height increase to see which was more valuable.

If you want to look at data on how money influences attractiveness, some of the better studies are pooled here:

• A man having the "correct" race, height, and face is worth millions of dollars to women
• Women orgasm more when having sex with rich men
• Men with much lower incomes then their wives are more than twice as likely to not have sex
• Photoshopping a man into a luxury apartment made women rate him as 30% more attractive

Money does matter but not tremendously. Even in that mythbusters you posted most only went up 16-18% or so for 4-5x the income. I am not aware of any studies showing money to be as powerful an influence in young women's sexual decisions as height/race/face, but if you know of any, I'm always open to it. I will always go with whatever the best data shows.

Even just from this study, one can see the weakness of money. Eg. It costs $247K extra income per year for an Asian man to be as attractive as a white man to a white woman. That is a massive money gap that most people can never bridge. The cost of height deficits is equally insane and almost impossible to bridge.

I'm Muslim so the game is slightly different for me. The muslim foids look for money as they want a marriage not just a chadfuck.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Yeah nothing really matters so long as you have face + height as a man. But it's so confusing when you don't know really how looks and attraction work, you see fat guys who somehow still look decent when they're fat. You see anorexic chads who are very successful with girls. Then you try every body type and nothing ever works. Lmao life is a cruel farce

For some reason people have been taught that face and bones don't matter, it's strange, young women will literally tell you the opposite in 2019.

 

[Deleted member 14382]

enlarge your penis

Foids won't even give you a chance to show them your penis if your face is ugly.

For some reason people have been taught that face and bones don't matter, it's strange, young women will literally tell you the opposite in 2019.

That's because it's the ONLY thing that matters. Kind of like when bluepilled people claim that "violence doesn't solve anything". In reality, violence solves EVERYTHING. Every major problem in history has been solved by war.

 

[Shigechi]

- Your job doesn't matter.
- Your money doesn't matter.
Really why do ugly but rich footballers get hot women?
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Not ugly by black standards. Not a manlet, good frame, face is normal. Not ugly at all.

 

[Dregster]

For some reason people have been taught that face and bones don't matter, it's strange, young women will literally tell you the opposite in 2019.

Foids won't tell you, they'll show you lmao

Foids won't even give you a chance to show them your penis if your face is ugly.

That's because it's the ONLY thing that matters. Kind of like when bluepilled people claim that "violence doesn't solve anything". In reality, violence solves EVERYTHING. Every major problem in history has been solved by war.

Just take the Violence Pill bro

There was a time when violencemaxxing was legit.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Another incel thread today from r/dating:



Again this is obvious - anyone can theoretically work harder or get lucky in business/finance and make money. So women don't really care. But being short? Being bald? Bad genes to women = punish into oblivion. No hard work compensates.

 

[muharremabi]

Its a huge suifuel FOR me. And actually money does matter bcz if you take high risk you can be at least 6,7/10 i think. This is what i would do if i was rich enough o get surgery. No money, no looks=a nightmare you will never wake up from

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Check out my signature..

That's pretty depressing but largely accurate. I would say to speak most correctly:

The easier something is to change, the less it matters. The harder something is to change the more it matters.

Because for example, one can become taller, but it takes 200K and 6 months in a wheelchair plus with the risk you'll never walk properly again. Or you can rearrange your face with bonesaws but there are major risks there too and no guarantees.

So although those are theoretically changeable they are not practically changeable for most people.

But that's just being technical about it.

 

[Pinpoint]

That's pretty depressing but largely accurate. I would say to speak most correctly:

The easier something is to change, the less it matters. The harder something is to change the more it matters.

Because for example, one can become taller, but it takes 200K and 6 months in a wheelchair plus with the risk you'll never walk properly again. Or you can rearrange your face with bonesaws but there are major risks there too and no guarantees.

So although those are theoretically changeable they are not practically changeable for most people.

But that's just being technical about it.

The less needlethreadable, and the more distinguishment in terms of power/ dominance/ everything snooty that something has is... will show refinement, precision, dominance, etc. on the hierarchy of humanity.
Hence why muscles are second to having perfect features. Shows more distinction.