Serious Schopenhauer's Hedgehog's Dilemma is one of the most relevant and accurate philosophical metaphors on human life

[Mainländer]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog's_dilemma

I've been thinking a lot about it lately. I felt bad when I was isolated in Germany, just as I feel bad when I LDAR for too long in my room, but now that I've had the opportunity to go out with my friends here again, I remembered just how much it sucks as well.

Social stuff in general sucks, it's tiresome, you have to make concessions and manage them, you have to be bothered in times you want to be alone, stay longer when you already want to go home (this is especially strong in Brazilian culture, just going is seen as extremely rude and if you do this enough people will eventually not call you anymore).

Also, going out in general sucks because I have to see attractive foids with better-looking guys while pretending to be happy just with my friends.

I've also noticed that I can't really deal with copers anymore. My friends cope a lot and to me it just seems absurd and pathetic now tbh.

Everything sucks tbh. The things you need are also the things that hurt you, but not having them will also hurt you.

It also reminds me of Inceltears and their inability to comprehend the tension between both hating and being rejected by foids, while at the same time needing them sexually and romantically. It's only natural that foids fail to apprehend complexities such as this one.

 

[jerrycan dan]

gotta go fast

 

[Deleted member 4999]

It’s the worst feeling in the world when you see a prime JB out in public when you’re walking with your other incel friends

 

[Six]

lel headgehog

 

[acnescarcel]

yeah almost every time i hang out with someone i just wish i was home again

 

[Mainländer]

It’s the worst feeling in the world when you see a prime JB out in public when you’re walking with your other incel friends

True story.

I remembered the "selfish gene" post @Leucosticte recently made on his blog when that happened today. It made me think about how this is all a ruthless game down here and how pretending to be happy as an obvious loser is pathetic.

 

[Insomniac]

gotta go fast

Gotta go faster

 

[Rice Cel]

Rings

Rings

Need more rings

Now I'll show you, eggman!

 

[lessthanhuman]

Life is terrible for men in general in the West. Even many normies are often suicidal and want to die, but because they are bluepilled and don't want to blame women, they have general depression and can't pin it down on any specific cause (lol).

Only really Chads and foids get serious pleasure from the way society is structured today. For them, it is as close to heaven as you can get on this world.

 

[Mainländer]

yeah almost every time i hang out with someone i just wish i was home again

I was legitimately happy to see some friends for the first time after all those months, but the feeling quickly faded away and gave room to feeling like going home in less than one hour. My social stamina is extremely low, if I socialize for like 20 minutes a day it's good enough.

 

[Deleted member 60]

yeah I've never really liked socializing or "hanging out." There has to be some kind of activity involved or it's a waste of my time.

 

[ManletHalfCurry]

Social interaction is a waste of time to me, it takes more energy than it's worth especially if you are trying to socialise with normies.

 

[Abomination]

Can I get close to you?

 

[Mainländer]

Life is terrible for men in general in the West. Even many normies are often suicidal and want to die, but because they are bluepilled and don't want to blame women, they have general depression and can't pin it down on any specific cause (lol).

Only really Chads and foids get serious pleasure from the way society is structured today. For them, it is as close to heaven as you can get on this world.

I didn't want to give up feeling happy but everything other than having a romance with some cute young girl feels like either cope or drudgery tbh.

I'm utterly incapable of deluding myself, this is a characteristic of my personality that got on steroids after the blackpill. What's the point of fooling myself and pretending to be happy with some shitty copes while what I really want is impossible?

What works best for me is isolation in my room > solitary walks > socializing, I must keep those items in that order or else I get too fucking despondent.

 

[lessthanhuman]

yeah I've never really liked socializing or "hanging out." There has to be some kind of activity involved or it's a waste of my time.

Social interaction is a waste of time to me, it takes more energy than it's worth especially if you are trying to socialise with normies.

There is nothing even to talk about with normies. Most normies have very vacuous interests and have no real depth to them. Although they are more complex and nuanced than foids, it is not by an enormous degree.

Often, when I used to hang out with my normie friends, the conservation between them would simply break down into awkward silence, and then repetitive and annoying stale jokes, or we would talk about things we had already exhaustively covered before.

I didn't want to give up feeling happy but everything other than having a romance with some cute young girl feels like either cope or drudgery tbh.

I'm utterly incapable of deluding myself, this is a characteristic of my personality that got on steroids after the blackpill. What's the point of fooling myself and pretending to be happy with some shitty copes while what I really want is impossible?

What works best for me is isolation in my room > solitary walks > socializing, I must keep those items in that order or else I get too fucking despondent.

It's natural for men who are no longer teens, innately, biologically, we want a loving, virgin wife we can raise a family with, to grow old with. When your child-like wonder of the world ceases, this becomes your calling in life. Only we are denied this, and have nothing but sad copes to occupy ourselves. It is no wonder we are so despondent.

For ten thousand years of civilization, generations of men toiled, struggled, died. They struggled through famine and war, through the greatest hardship, lived under cruel emperors and despots. But at the end of the day, even the poor men came home to a loving family, where they were king of their own little castle, their sanctuary from the world. We are beneath even the poorest of antiquity.

 

[Insomniac]

There is nothing even to talk about with normies. Most normies have very vacuous interests

Muh job
Muh relationship
Muh sports

That’s about it for normalfags.

 

[Deleted member 13256]

 

[StaroRavager]

Muh job
Muh relationship
Muh sports

That’s about it for normalfags.

Everything is cope

 

[wizardcel]

It seems you have a bunch normie friends who are unable to understand you. You have probably changed a lot since taking the blackpill, no wonder you have grown out of the things which used to make you happy. I've been a friendless social outcast for years because I couldn't be bothered to hang out with people I don't have anything in common with. Self-social ostracism will eventually catch up with you, too. You will reach a point where you will no longer be able to spend two minutes of your time with normans.

 

[Of Manlets and Men]

Life is terrible for men in general in the West. Even many normies are often suicidal and want to die, but because they are bluepilled and don't want to blame women, they have general depression and can't pin it down on any specific cause (lol).

Only really Chads and foids get serious pleasure from the way society is structured today. For them, it is as close to heaven as you can get on this world.

Modern society is a new feudalism, with Chads and foids as the nobility who live the good life off our backs, and non-Chad men as serfs with no rights and nothing to live for. The increase in female hypergamy, the Tinder effect, and ever-increasing female sexual standards for men are destroying what's left of the sexual middle class.

 

[Reprobus]

For ten thousand years of civilization, generations of men toiled, struggled, died. They struggled through famine and war, through the greatest hardship, lived under cruel emperors and despots. But at the end of the day, even the poor men came home to a loving family, where they were king of their own little castle, their sanctuary from the world. We are beneath even the poorest of antiquity.

Beautifully put

 

[rabitter]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog's_dilemma

I've been thinking a lot about it lately. I felt bad when I was isolated in Germany, just as I feel bad when I LDAR for too long in my room, but now that I've had the opportunity to go out with my friends here again, I remembered just how much it sucks as well.

Social stuff in general sucks, it's tiresome, you have to make concessions and manage them, you have to be bothered in times you want to be alone, stay longer when you already want to go home (this is especially strong in Brazilian culture, just going is seen as extremely rude and if you do this enough people will eventually not call you anymore).

Also, going out in general sucks because I have to see attractive foids with better-looking guys while pretending to be happy just with my friends.

I've also noticed that I can't really deal with copers anymore. My friends cope a lot and to me it just seems absurd and pathetic now tbh.

Everything sucks tbh. The things you need are also the things that hurt you, but not having them will also hurt you.

It also reminds me of Inceltears and their inability to comprehend the tension between both hating and being rejected by foids, while at the same time needing them sexually and romantically. It's only natural that foids fail to apprehend complexities such as this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depressive_realism

For ten thousand years of civilization, generations of men toiled, struggled, died. They struggled through famine and war, through the greatest hardship, lived under cruel emperors and despots. But at the end of the day, even the poor men came home to a loving family, where they were king of their own little castle, their sanctuary from the world. We are beneath even the poorest of antiquity.

High IQ as fuck.

I've seen old B&W photos and videos of my grandfather and even though he lived a fairly difficult life - he had a loving wife, loving children, and plenty of real friends who cared about him (unlike today's facebook """friends"""). And no he wasn't a Chad. Far from it.

I'm utterly incapable of deluding myself, this is a characteristic of my personality that got on steroids after the blackpill. What's the point of fooling myself and pretending to be happy with some shitty copes while what I really want is impossible?

What works best for me is isolation in my room > solitary walks > socializing, I must keep those items in that order or else I get too fucking despondent.

Same here men. Although for me it's quiet isolation in my own place > aimless motorcycle rides > nature stuff like hiking, camping in remote wilderness areas.

 

[Mainländer]

It seems you have a bunch normie friends who are unable to understand you. You have probably changed a lot since taking the blackpill, no wonder you have grown out of the things which used to make you happy. I've been a friendless social outcast for years because I couldn't be bothered to hang out with people I don't have anything in common with. Self-social ostracism will eventually catch up with you, too. You will reach a point where you will no longer be able to spend two minutes of your time with normans.

I see it happening as well tbh. Or at least my friendships being demoted to acquaintances.

Modern society is a new feudalism, with Chads and foids as the nobility who live the good life off our backs, and non-Chad men as serfs with no rights and nothing to live for. The increase in female hypergamy, the Tinder effect, and ever-increasing female sexual standards for men are destroying what's left of the sexual middle class.

Sexual Marxism makes more sense than economic Marxism now. The two more important instincts are survival and reproduction, and in the west, no one is starving and the vast majority of people are not being violently killed or something either. Inceldom is arguably a more serious and painful condition than merely being poor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depressive_realism


High IQ as fuck.

I've seen old B&W photos and videos of my grandfather and even though he lived a fairly difficult life - he had a loving wife, loving children, and plenty of real friends who cared about him (unlike today's facebook """friends"""). And no he wasn't a Chad. Far from it.


Same here men. Although for me it's quiet isolation in my own place > aimless motorcycle rides > nature stuff like hiking, camping in remote wilderness areas.

Living a difficult life full of struggle with money/resources, blue-collar work, etc, is only bearable when one has a wife and a family. As an incel in the west that shit is concentrated suifuel.