They both matter you need face and height to thrive if you have one without the other you will struggle simple as that being good looking won’t save you from being 5’4
Truthpilled.
Agree. Usually people cope and say whatever they don’t have is more important to sound as subhuman as possible.
Yes, both are important. However, there is a large segment of .is population who believes it's only height that matters. According to them, a guy who looks like this
, but over 6' tall, is a total gigachad slayer swimming in prime pussy every second of his existence.
its more of face > height when the minimum height threshold is met which is usually 5'9 but most likely 5'10
I don’t think that’s what they mean height copers believe as long as you’re at least average you can ascend face copers think face beats height regardless
Face is more important than anything
Giga cope
Your face doesn't matter until like 5'10-6' threshold
It’s 65% height 25% face 10% frame
There are plenty of Tallcels here, how many Chadlets are there on this forum?
People have brought this up several times, maybe as you get older and Chad's get rarer due to the brutality of the agepill that only a few Chad's can survive (for example Brad Pitt being almost 60 and still Mogging 99% of men in their 20's), so height becomes more important with age, but if you're younger than 40~45 it's mostly face.
And even then being tall and ugly won't save you as you'll still compete with tall Normies.
People have brought this up several times, maybe as you get older and Chad's get rarer due to the brutality of the agepill that only a few Chad's can survive (for example Brad Pitt being almost 60 and still Mogging 99% of men in their 20's), so height becomes more important with age, but if you're younger than 40~45 it's mostly face.
And even then being tall and ugly won't save you as you'll still compete with tall Normies.
I have 2/10 face and I'm almost 6.0ft.
According to height copers I should slay like mad.
Really depends on the toilet, if you have a height fetishist then it's 90% height, if you have a frame fetishist then it's 90% frame. I remember watching a toilets' talk show half a decade ago and one toilet talked about The Artist Formerly Known as Prince as "his ass is just so small, I can hold it in one hand" implying that she's really aroused by how skinny and tiny he was. Other toilets have the polar opposite and like "a bear of a man" (as we say in Dutch).
You can optimise for fetishists, for example this Tails video giving tall incels advice on how to update their dating app profiles to cater to height fetishists:
View: https://youtu.be/YrYDzE_1dOk
But the vast majority of toilets care about face. Going for fetishists is always going for an exception, flat-chested toilets think that they don't get Chad because they have flat chests so they get breast implants, but they will still end up with an incel that simply loves big breasts:
This man would be an incel back in Russia, he's only 6'1 "tall" and his face is shit, however, he went to Taiwan where the toilets are much easier for White men (ironically Taiwanese men could go Slavmaxxing and get a toilet with natural big breasts like that but he has to go Gookmaxxing), without make-up she is actually his looksmatch and both of them bodymaxxed, but neither could outperform their genetics and she plastic surgerymaxxed only to get a 4/10 White Russian and he got a busty 4/10 Taiwanese. She only looks "out of his league" due to make-upmaxxing.
Just like how fake books won't land a Becky a Chad that will commit to her gymcelling won't land a man a Stacy.
I see lots of toilets with amazing bodies and relatively unattractive men simply because Chad and Stacy care more about their faces and the average man and average toilet would pick a good face over a good body any day. It's just that men are less picky in general so it doesn't matter how a toilet looks as simply being a toilet is enough for most men, just not for a LTR with Chad.
This is also why fetish-catering should be a last resort as you'll still be less likely to be selected by a toilet than a shorter Chad with a worse frame.
Just like if he could get a flat-chested Taiwanese Stacy he'd dump busty Becky in a second, and she would dump his muscular ass for a Chadlet if she could.
I'm 6'2 barefoot, easily 6'3 with any pair of shoes, can go liftmaxxing I can probably go to 6'6 but that's my hard limit for lifts. I am thinking about leg lengthening surgery but this:
Scares me into cringing every time I see it.
I'd say liftmaxxing is the best to do if you can't really go surgerymaxxing. I am anxious how a toilet would respond if she'd see that I'm significantly shorter without lifts, as while it's socially acceptable for toilets to wear high heels, no man outside of Hollywood wears lifts because of social stigma.
I bought a small lifts once - they were adding about 2.5 cm (1 inch) to height but it was so fucking uncomfortable.I'm 6'2 barefoot, easily 6'3 with any pair of shoes, can go liftmaxxing I can probably go to 6'6 but that's my hard limit for lifts. I am thinking about leg lengthening surgery but this:
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Scares me into cringing every time I see it.
I'd say liftmaxxing is the best to do if you can't really go surgerymaxxing. I am anxious how a toilet would respond if she'd see that I'm significantly shorter without lifts, as while it's socially acceptable for toilets to wear high heels, no man outside of Hollywood wears lifts because of social stigma.
Maybe I bought wrong one or somethin they looked like this one:
I dont get how people can wear it for weeks, I had it literally for 3-4 days and I throw them out.
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Cope, NT matters above everything.
Everything fucking matters.
Face above height imo
Enough height can make up for pretty much any shortcoming in any other area
That's straight up severely deformed, not just unattractive or average like most tallcels. A good face can't save you from the curse of manletism, while a tallfag can always get cosmetic face surgery
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If i was a ft taller (6'8) even with my 4/10 face i would be slaying. Height matters more than face for sure.
Facts. You need to be above average in both categories to truly enjoy life
The worst thing a guy can be is short.
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