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Saṃsāra or Nirvāṇa?


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If given the opportunity to choose between an eternal living or an ineluctable extinction, which would you choose?

Remember, if you choose eternal life through reincarnation it is possible for you "ascend" into the appearance of an "Chad",--or continue to descend into the insufferable contest of insatiable desires and self-negating wills that we involuntary egoists propagate.

I personally think becoming a life-affirming Apollonian is an ideal worthy of realization, however, given the metaphysical systems that determine the potential results of this hypothetical process, it is vastlly probable that I would remain a tortured Dionysian for eternity:--like Ixion's wheel my destiny would spiral toward itself ad infinitum.
 
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In the "side world" (dream &/or post death world) you can have any shape you want bro.

I knew a (dead) cripple that regrew his arm, after he died... He was happy about it!
 
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In the "side world" (dream &/or post death world) you can have any shape you want bro.

I knew a (dead) cripple that regrew his arm, after he died... He was happy about it!
Dreams that represent a metaphysic are the symptom of a rejuvinated faith, consequently this reference to dreams heralds the suffocation of reason.

The cloud cuckooland is not where I hope to discover myself once more.
 
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Dreams that represent a metaphysic are the symptom of a rejuvinated faith, consequently this reference to dreams heralds the suffocation of reason.

The cloud cuckooland is not where I hope to discover myself once more.
I'm only stating my experience. Bro.

I knew a freshly dead old dude that had a arm he crippled in a logging accident. He spent most of his life dragging a useless arm around! He had to use his left arm and hand instead... He was a good shot and fed his FAM...

Anyway, shortly after his death, I saw him in a dream, using both arms! He was amazed at it too!

He had a difficult time stabilizing his form and blobbed out at the end of the dream/ visit.

After my superior hunting dog died I played catch/ baseball with him in a dream.

He was a dog with hands.

These are just my experiences.

There are many thousands of other similar stories out there. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not.
 
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Nirvana of course
 
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I want to live permanently in a lucid dream.
 
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I'm only stating my experience. Bro.

I knew a freshly dead old dude that had a arm he crippled in a logging accident. He spent most of his life dragging a useless arm around! He had to use his left arm and hand instead... He was a good shot and fed his FAM...

Anyway, shortly after his death, I saw him in a dream, using both arms! He was amazed at it too!

He had a difficult time stabilizing his form and blobbed out at the end of the dream/ visit.

After my superior hunting dog died I played catch/ baseball with him in a dream.

He was a dog with hands.

These are just my experiences.

There are many thousands of other similar stories out there. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not.
If Chad heard you say "bro", even condescendingly, he would either embrace you with the very ost superficial sibling affection or furtively patronize you. :bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::redpill::redpill::redpill::redpill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::feelsmusic::feelsmusic::feelsmusic::feelsautistic::feelsohgod::worryfeels::worryfeels::cryfeels::feelstastyman::feelsokman::feelsthink::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain:
 
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Even if you get reincarnated as a chad you will still commit mistakes and go through pain , boredom , sadness , anger , hunger , stress , death all over again so it's not worth it .
 
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If Chad heard you say "bro", even condescendingly, he would either embrace you with the very ost superficial sibling affection or furtively patronize you. :bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::feelsthink::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::ahegao::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::dab::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::smonk::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::whitepill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::redpill::redpill::redpill::redpill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::feelsmusic::feelsmusic::feelsmusic::feelsautistic::feelsohgod::worryfeels::worryfeels::cryfeels::feelstastyman::feelsokman::feelsthink::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain::bigbrain:
It's a fun term, specifically for that ambiguous reason bro!

If you say it to a Christain they think you too are "saved" lol!
 
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Even if you get reincarnated as a chad you will still commit mistakes and go through pain , boredom , sadness , anger , hunger , stress , death all over again so it's not worth it .
You think the pains outweigh the pleasures?
 
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Guns N' Roses.
 
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It would be nirvana. In some stories and many fictional stories, you become a being beyond chad with great powers. The closest incarnations of Nirvana to the lore are this character's second key as a form of enlightenment and some characters like from SMT.
 
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You think the pains outweigh the pleasures?
Better being reincarnated into a demi god like being in the afterlife than live in a imperfect world to go through suffering.
 
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Neither, we all go through a personal extinction, but the world goes on. It is how it is and it wouldn’t be better any other way.
 
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Nothingness:—the extinction event.
I mean seemingly in those states one could keep their individuality while it is not the case with reincarnation described here as one basically being someone else and basically dead.
 
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I mean seemingly in those states one could keep their individuality while it is not the case with reincarnation described here as one basically being someone else and basically dead.
In both cases one loses their individuality.
 
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In both cases one loses their individuality.
I think in Nirvana, paradoxically, such characters have shown to retain their individuality like their memories despite being in a state beyond nothingness and existence or a nondual state.
Even in such fiction, such cases are not rare; Sakya still retained his individuality despite being in such a state as mentioned above; Sun Wukong's buddha self is pretty much a popular example of this case too.
Reincarnation from samsara, in this case in the thread, individuality is gone as their memories are gone.
 
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logically, Nirvana.
free from the pains of being , it mogs everything.
Even if you get reincarnated as a chad you will still commit mistakes and go through pain , boredom , sadness , anger , hunger , stress , death all over again so it's not worth it .
 

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