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SwiftQuill
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1. The Low IQ Meme.
This is an old and obnoxious meme I've been seeing everywhere lately, mainly on Youtube. It's frustrating to see people posting this meme without bothering to address it with any amount of good faith.
The meme goes like this:
Step 1: A Nice Guy™ does something kind to a woman.
Step 2: The woman appreciates the gesture, but doesn't seem sexually attracted to him.
Step 3: The Nice Guy™ is shocked that the woman didn't reciprocate the gesture with sex.The meme goes like this:
Step 1: A Nice Guy™ does something kind to a woman.
Step 2: The woman appreciates the gesture, but doesn't seem sexually attracted to him.
Step 4: Men who are Nice™ and don't have a girlfriend expect that mere acts of kindness to women makes them DESERVING of sex, as though women OWE them sex.
Step 5: Nice Guys™ become angry, bitter, frustrated at society for not having a girlfriend.
Step 6: Deep down, Nice Guys™ aren't nice at all. True niceness doesn't expect a reward. Nice Guys™ always expect sex as a reward for their actions, which means THEY are the true hypocrites.
What happens when someone sees this or interacts with a Nice Guy™ is typically they make fun of them, or at "best" they make videos on youtube talking at length on the topic, without addressing it in good faith. There are many problems with this meme.
2. Problem: It's a strawman.
No single man on earth truly believes women OWE them sex just for being nice. That's preposterous. I get that low IQ individuals exist but this is a strawman of the argument. Let me give you the correct version of the argument:
Premise 1: One would expect the bare minimum criteria to land a girlfriend is to be nice. To NOT rape women, to NOT harass women, to NOT mistreat them, to NOT abuse them physically or psychologically.
Premise 2: Many women nowadays complain that their boyfriends are abusive, and all their past boyfriends were also abusive, and that all men are abusive.
Premise 3: There are indeed many truly decent, normal men out there, who wouldn't abuse their girlfriend if they ever got one. There are men out there with decent morals who struggle to even get a date.
Conclusion/Question: Why is it that there are so many decent men out there who can't get a girlfriend, and so many abusive assholes who get laid all the time?
THIS is the correct argument. Not the BULLSHIT strawman that the meme implies.
3. Problem: It's NOT hypocritical.
We live in a society. We have social needs. We interact with other individuals in our society, and there are expectations of rewards for good behaviors and punishments for social transgressions. If you are a hardworking individual, it's natural you expect a good sallary. And if you are a criminal, it's expected you will be punished. It's not black and white, but our interactions with humans work like this pretty much all of the time, even if it's not conscious.One would expect that if they are average looking, and have decent morals, they shouldn't struggle SUPER hard to get along with 50% of the population (females). But nope. You can be a decent guy, with genuine morals, and you will still be labelled creepy, or evil, for being male, or for being socially awkward. Society loves to gaslight men into thinking if people HATE you it means YOU are doing something wrong, and if you were a truly kind individual others would be attracted toward you.
4. Problem: "MY BOYFRIEND IS SO ABUSIVE".
Meet Jessica. Jessica is currently dating a guy who strangled her once, a month ago. She is deeply attracted to her douchebag boyfriend, and she feels like society is against her. After all, it couldn't possibly be her fault that she has picked all of her boyfriends abusive, violent men. No, it's somehow society's fault. It's MEN's fault somehow. Jessica posts on reddit and instagram sob stories about how women must stand up to abuse, and how she has become a radical feminist because of all horrible experiences she's had with men. Jessica is the author of the meme "Men literally only want one thing and it's disgusting".Isn't it odd how women don't give 2 fucks about morals? They may have a list of 100 qualities they demand for in a potential partner, but morals is by no means in that list.
Hell, I recently watched a Dr. Phil episode about this hot woman (a good 8/10) who was dating a DRUG DEALER and METH ADDICT. He was physically abusive to her. He strangled her or raped her or something like that, something truly shocking and violent. She dated him for years, and during that episode she was STILL dating him.
Look up stories of narcissistic men, violent men, murderers, drug dealers, gangsters, online. Many of them had 0 problem getting a girlfriend/wife. This is a revelation that when women cry that "There are no decent men out there" they're just gaslighting you.
5. The Truth.
I've never had a girlfriend, I have no clue what women want in a man. But I can say this for sure: they don't give the tiniest, smallest FUCK if you are nice or not. You can be a horrible piece of shit, a criminal, a violent individual, and as long as you have other qualities that women find attractive (looks, confidence, money, status, idk?) you can get a girlfriend. That's the truth. I SO wish people would stop posting the Nice Guy™ memes everywhere. I'm exhausted of seeing it.The Nice Guy™ meme mocks men’s dating frustrations instead of addressing them with empathy. Many struggling men aren’t entitled—they’re just confused and hurt. Dismissing them only deepens resentment, while real understanding could help them navigate dating in a healthier way. More compassion and less ridicule would lead to better discussions and solutions.