Relationships are fucking pointless if your partner has had any sexual contact before

[OrangeFez2311]

Relationships are fucking pointless if your partner has had any sexual contact with anybody else before. How the fuck can you be with somebody knowing they've shared the most intimate, important and special thing two people can share with somebody else? That other men have given her orgasms and sexual pleasure? That she has given other men orgasms and sexual pleasure?

There's nothing special, meaningful or important about the relationship. It's sick. It's fucking sick. It means nothing. She means nothing. You mean nothing. It's fucking sick. It's pointless. It's meaningless.

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I'm honestly thinking about just fucking ending it, there is no way around this even if you "ascend"

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

stop coping dude.

 

[Deleted member 3155]

I thought this was @ItheIthe for a second lol

 

[OrangeFez2311]

stop coping dude.

I'm not coping, this realisation and undeniable objective truth is the biggest blackpill for me to swallow, personally. Even if I married the girl of my dreams, this blackpill means I can never, ever be happy under any circumstances. This actually makes me want to die, fml

 

[subsaharan]

the fuck? lmao

who tf cares you goddamn volcel "ew she fucks"

 

[ItheIthe]

This is what I'm saying. People say "Sex is no big deal", but it clearly is.

Sex is how you CREATE LIFE. Sex strengthens the emotional bonds between two people. Sex is the most intimate physical pleasure a person can experience.

I'd quite literally rather die alone than be someone's 2nd, or God forbid, 13th partner in line. That person has already reached the peak of physical pleasure with someone else. They've also probably done all sorts of romantic things with other people, reaching the peak of emotional and spiritual pleasure with someone else as well. You're nothing but a backup, someone she "settled" for. And it's scientifically impossible for them to love you like the first. So what's the point?

 

[OrangeFez2311]

I thought this was @ItheIthe for a second lol

I was promoting this ideology - semantic exclusivity - for about a year before he even arrived on the scene.

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

I'm not coping, this realisation and undeniable objective truth is the biggest blackpill for me to swallow, personally. Even if I married the girl of my dreams, this blackpill means I can never, ever be happy under any circumstances. This actually makes me want to die, fml

then u might as well be volcel with a mindset like that

 

[OrangeFez2311]

This is what I'm saying. People say "Sex is no big deal", but it clearly is.

Sex is how you CREATE LIFE. Sex strengthens the emotional bonds between two people. Sex is the most intimate physical pleasure a person can experience.

I'd quite literally rather die alone than be someone's 2nd, or God forbid, 13th partner in line. That person has already reached the peak of physical pleasure with someone else. They've also probably done all sorts of romantic things with other people, reaching the peak of emotional and spiritual pleasure with someone else as well. So what's the point?

I 100% agree with this. Fuck absolutely everything. I don't give a fuck if a girl has had sex with only 1 other guy or 100000, in both cases she is equally fucking worthless and tarnished and pointless to be with. Fuck it all. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

 

[Deleted member 3155]

I was promoting this ideology - semantic exclusivity - for about a year before he even arrived on the scene.

Yeah but he posts threads like this literally every day.

 

[OrangeFez2311]

then u might as well be volcel with a mindset like that

Logic doesn't compute because even if I didn't think like this I'd still be an incel

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the fuck? lmao

who tf cares you goddamn volcel "ew she fucks"

Logic doesn't compute because I'd sitll be incel even if I didn't think this

As if I actually have to spell this out for you, you fucking sub-70 IQ fucking spastic cunt. It feels like I'm talking to IT cucks and numales againl. It's not quantum physics, it's fucking obvious. I shouldn't have to fucking spell this out for you you utter retard.

 

[Deleted member]

the thought of being in an LTR with a non-virgin is absolutely revolting and no one with any kind of self-respect could even consider it. just imagine the female comparing your sexual skills/looks/whatever else to its ex partner (which WILL happen) lmfao

that being said, non-virgins are nearly nonexistent, so any male who wants to get laid should just be pumping and dumping.

 

[OrangeFez2311]

the thought of being in an LTR with a non-virgin is absolutely revolting and no one with any kind of self-respect could even consider it.

that being said, non-virgins are nearly nonexistent, so any male who wants to get laid should just be pumping and dumping.

This is the truth. But if you start pumping and dumping you turn yourself into a normie, which is equally as bad.

Just lol at how fucked up I am in the head, just lol at how there's no hope, why am I still alive? What's the point?

 

[ItheIthe]

I 100% agree with this. Fuck absolutely everything. I don't give a fuck if a girl has had sex with only 1 other guy or 100000, in both cases she is equally fucking worthless and tarnished and pointless to be with. Fuck it all. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

This is something I was grappling with. Is it better for a girl to have sex once with 300 people, or 300 times with 1 person.

I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't take her in either case.

People need to understand the power of Oneitis. Oneitis is hoping someone will be your absolute everything and anything. The ability for a girl to Oneitis you is DESTROYED once she's been with another man. Whatever she can experience with you - sexual or otherwise - she has already done before. You will never fulfill her curious adventures, sexually or emotionally.

 

[subsaharan]

then u might as well be volcel with a mindset like that

Logic doesn't compute because even if I didn't think like this I'd still be an incel

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the fuck? lmao
who tf cares you goddamn volcel "ew she fucks"

Logic doesn't compute because I'd sitll be incel even if I didn't think this
As if I actually have to spell this out for you, you fucking sub-70 IQ fucking spastic cunt. It feels like I'm talking to IT cucks and numales againl. It's not quantum physics, it's fucking obvious. I shouldn't have to fucking spell this out for you you utter retard.

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then why obsess over it if you can't get pussy either way? A convenient cope? stop spergin

 

[OrangeFez2311]

then why obsess over it if you can't get pussy either way? A convenient cope? stop spergin

Because it's a bitter realisation that I can never, ever, ever, ever be happy, no matter what. Ever. Even if I got the girl of my dreams. It extinguishes that last little spark of hope.

 

[ItheIthe]

then why obsess over it if you can't get pussy either way? A convenient cope? stop spergin

Because degeneracy needs to be abolished.

 

[OrangeFez2311]

This is something I was grappling with. Is it better for a girl to have sex once with 300 people, or 300 times with 1 person.

I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't take her in either case.

People need to understand the power of Oneitis. Oneitis is hoping someone will be your absolute everything and anything. The ability for a girl to Oneitis you is DESTROYED once she's been with another man. Whatever she can experience with you - sexual or otherwise - she has already done before. You will never fulfill her curious adventures, sexually or emotionally.

If she's had sex with 300 people, then she's probably emotionally and spiritually dead when it comes to sex now so it's fucking pointless, plus she'll fantasise about all of the Chad's she's fucked whenever you're with her.

If she's had sex with 1 person, she will feel extremely strong emotional and spiritual connections to that person, meaning you are getting fucking CUCKED every second you're with her because her heart belongs to somebody else.

Just lol at our plight 

I wish I had the courage to kill myself

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Because degeneracy needs to be abolished.

I fucking love you

 

[QuantumDummy]

That's actually a good point.

 

[zebracrossing]

Relationships are fucking pointless if your partner has had any sexual contact with anybody else before. How the fuck can you be with somebody knowing they've shared the most intimate, important and special thing two people can share with somebody else? That other men have given her orgasms and sexual pleasure? That she has given other men orgasms and sexual pleasure?

There's nothing special, meaningful or important about the relationship. It's sick. It's fucking sick. It means nothing. She means nothing. You mean nothing. It's fucking sick. It's pointless. It's meaningless.

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I'm honestly thinking about just fucking ending it, there is no way around this even if you "ascend"

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Did you fall from the doctor's hands the day you were born?

 

[ItheIthe]

Did you fall from the doctor's hands the day you were born?

There's nothing wrong with anything he's saying.

It's been a societal expectation that a girl be a virgin on her wedding day for most cultures throughout human history. But our sick and depraved culture has determined that being a slut/male slut before marriage would be better.

 

[satoshisacuck]

I agree, death to the cucks that enable this... this kind of shit ruins lives.

 

[zebracrossing]

There's nothing wrong with anything he's saying.

It's been a societal expectation that a girl be a virgin on her wedding day for most cultures throughout human history. But our sick and depraved culture has determined that being a slut/male slut before marriage would be better.

Sorry, but I don't agree! We are incels in "this time" of history! What you think of it as wrong /right doesn't matter, it's the norm in this time, and we have to accept it. Otherwise we are all just volcels if we think "i'd be having a virgin in that time from that culture so its ok"!

 

[OrangeFez2311]

Did you fall from the doctor's hands the day you were born?

When you realise that emotional and spiritual fulfilment in relationships come from a sense of exclusivity, you realise how invalid they actually are if you partner has squandered the most intimate and special thing two people can share with other people before. You are not unique or special to her. You're just a number. You're just the next man in the queue, the latest in a long line of cum, dicks and fingering. Nothing is special or meaningful about it, and it never will be.

 

[ItheIthe]

Sorry, but I don't agree! We are incels in "this time" of history! What you think of it as wrong /right doesn't matter, it's the norm in this time, and we have to accept it. Otherwise we are all just volcels if we think "i'd be having a virgin in that time from that culture so its ok"!

MUH "CURRENT YEAR" argument

If slavery was "the norm" in the 1700's, does that mean it was okay? Of course not. I will not approve of degeneracy just because it is common.

Being a volcel is fine. Who gives a shit about dying alone when the other option is being some utility some girl is "settling" with?

 

[OrangeFez2311]

Sorry, but I don't agree! We are incels in "this time" of history! What you think of it as wrong /right doesn't matter, it's the norm in this time, and we have to accept it. Otherwise we are all just volcels if we think "i'd be having a virgin in that time from that culture so its ok"!

1. Objective truths transcend subjective cultural experiences. Exclusivity is an objective concept and is therefore exempt from the ebb and flow of culture. 

2. FOR THE THIRD FUCKING TIME, THIRD MOTHERFUCKING CUNTING TIME, WE WOULD STILL BE INCELS EVEN IF  WE DIDN'T FUCKING THINK LIKE THIS. WE ARE NOT REJECTING WOMEN BECAUSE WE THINK LIKE THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE NO WOMEN FOR US TO REJECT BECAUSE WE ARE HIDEOUS SUBHUMAN SCUM. WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT WE WILL NEVER BE HAPPY EVEN IF WE DO ASCEND BECAUSE OF THIS BLACKPILL

I HAVE HAD TO SPELL THIS REALLY FUCKIGN OBVIOUS POINT OUT THREE FUCKING TIMES NOW FOR YOU FUCKING SPASTICS, IT'S FUCKING OBIVOUS 

I EXPECT SHIT LIKE THIS FROM IT AND NUMALE CUCKS BUT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER

FUCK

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This comment made me fucking self harm, I've just poured a mug boiling water all over my arm and leg, fuckingJesus Christ

 

[ItheIthe]

When you realise that emotional and spiritual fulfilment in relationships come from a sense of exclusivity, you realise how invalid they actually are if you partner has squandered the most intimate and special thing two people can share with other people before. You are not unique or special to her. You're just a number. You're just the next man in the queue, the latest in a long line of cum, dicks and fingering. Nothing is special or meaningful about it, and it never will be.

This is spot on. This is why I hardly see a difference between pre-marital sex and adultery. I made a thread about it yesterday.

In EITHER case she's experienced everything with someone else. In either case she's never exclusively yours. In either case, you're not her one and only.

Pre-marital sex has opened the door for cuckoldry. People now have to accept the fact that their wives have been plowed by numerous men before them, and once they accept and live with that, the sense of exclusivity is taken away, opening the door for cuckoldry.

 

[OrangeFez2311]

This is spot on. This is why I hardly see a difference between pre-marital sex and adultery. I made a thread about it yesterday.

In EITHER case she's experienced everything with someone else. In either case she's never exclusively yours. In either case, you're not her one and only.

Pre-marital sex has opened the door for cuckoldry. People now have to accept the fact that their wives have been plowed by numerous men before them, and once they accept and live with that, the sense of exclusivity is taken away, opening the door for cuckoldry.

You are the only other person who actually understands this. Thank you.

 

[satoshisacuck]

When you realise that emotional and spiritual fulfilment in relationships come from a sense of exclusivity, you realise how invalid they actually are if you partner has squandered the most intimate and special thing two people can share with other people before. You are not unique or special to her. You're just a number. You're just the next man in the queue, the latest in a long line of cum, dicks and fingering. Nothing is special or meaningful about it, and it never will be.

This is beautiful, I love the way you wrote that, this needs to be saved or quoted. This whole thread should get stickied. You sir, need to get awarded for this.

 

[Akarin]

Did you fall from the doctor's hands the day you were born?

my cuck radar is LOOOOOUD

having sex with a non virgin is acceptable, you're desperate and she is worthless. But marrying a non-virgin is like upbringing someone's else child in terms of how much you failed as a man

I'd rather be lonely forever than marry with a slut

 

[Jockcel]

Agreed. Every man who marries non-virgin female has no self-respect.

 

[CopingGymcel]

stop coping dude.

 

[ItheIthe]

OrangeFez has been banned for the next 24 hours so he wont be able to defend himself.

But I absolutely agree with everything he says and he is 100% spot on and correct.

Anyone willing to be "settled" for is a cuck.

 

[satoshisacuck]

OrangeFez has been banned for the next 24 hours so he wont be able to defend himself.

But I absolutely agree with everything he says and he is 100% spot on and correct.

Anyone willing to be "settled" for is a cuck.

Wait, why would he be banned? He didn't do anything wrong except for starting a greatly needed debate. If anything, people against this agenda should be getting banned. No one should have to deal with used goods.

It is a sin in my religion for me to be with someone that is not a virgin. Because the thought of my special other having someone and being with someone else before me would impact my day to day relationship with me wife. This would lead to divorce or me becoming a cuck, and thus ruining my chances of ever going to heaven.

But it's not just that, why would anyone cuck themselves like this? It's just self degrading, I would rather rot than to deal with this kind of shit.

 

[dawn]

my cuck radar is LOOOOOUD

having sex with a non virgin is acceptable, you're desperate and she is worthless. But marrying a non-virgin is like upbringing someone's else child in terms of how much you failed as a man

I'd rather be lonely forever than marry with a slut

If you yourself fuck a non-virgin , then how do you deserve to marry a virgin girl . Anyone who himself is a virgin deserve to marry a virgin girl .

 

[Machiavelli]

you can keep lamenting this fact, it still doesn't change the incel situation you are in.

only normies and chads have to worry about this.

which includes me......

 

[ItheIthe]

There's simply no reason to be with a girl who has already experienced the peak of physical, emotional, and spiritual intimacy with someone else.

For me it's not only just about sex. "LTRs" also entail great emotional and spiritual intimacy aside from sex.

You will NEVER be her one and only, she will NEVER be fully yours.

There's just no point. And IT accuse us of "fetishizing virginity". So be it. Almost every culture that's ever existed held the expectation that the pair would be virgins at marriage. Our depraved culture was one of the first to say otherwise.

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If you yourself fuck a non-virgin , then how do you deserve to marry a virgin girl . Anyone who himself is a virgin deserve to marry a virgin girl .

You don't and I've been saying this for a while

 

[satoshisacuck]

There's simply no reason to be with a girl who has already experienced the peak of physical, emotional, and spiritual intimacy with someone else.

For me it's not only just about sex. "LTRs" also entail great emotional and spiritual intimacy aside from sex.

You will NEVER be her one and only, she will NEVER be fully yours.

There's just no point. And IT accuse us of "fetishizing virginity". So be it. Almost every culture that's ever existed held the expectation that the pair would be virgins at marriage. Our depraved culture was one of the first to say otherwise.

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You don't and I've been saying this for a while

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Exactly on point, let the cucks go through cognitive dissonance.
Realizing the harsh truth and accepting that is something that only a few people can do.

I would seriously rather rot.

 

[VST]

Agreed. Every man who marries non-virgin female has no self-respect.

>Marrying women in 2018
Lol.

 

[Akarin]

If you yourself fuck a non-virgin , then how do you deserve to marry a virgin girl . Anyone who himself is a virgin deserve to marry a virgin girl .

You don't deserve. You fucked a girl you're slut yourself. Feel free to marry all those non virgins since since you already supported degeneration.

 

[_incelinside]

Chuckling. You call yourselves incels but in reality are as picky as all shit. Volcels.net

 

[Thunderjaw]

What the fuck kind of spoiled existence do you have to lead to say that if your perfect (childless) woman showed up completely dedicated to you and loved you and fucked you every day that it wouldn't be worth shit because she fucked 20 guys before she got to you.

You'd seriously off yourself before you'd fuck her and get whatever happiness you could out of it?

I'd betabux all goddamn day every fucking day so long as I wasn't actually cucked and denied sex. If you fuck me every day I don't care what else you do so long as you don't like give me aids. The herp I can deal with, fewer guys will want her and she'll be even more loyal.

 

[blickpall]

lol