Reilgious socities polyagous societies and hedonist/nihilist societies will inevitable create irrational children intelligence is applied effort.

[ryhan]

Here is the main issue of religious societies while it fulfills a base unit purpose of reproduction and it makes it easy for people to reproduce. It has shitty issues main being it encourages irrationality above reason.

Exhibit a say we have a Muslim/christian theocracy and we control women's rights it's all decided by families and constrained by the state. What then well what are the issues ? it is strictly against progress in the sciences or the mathematics as it holds onto dogma. While it fulfills the reproduction purpose it brainwashes the youth to believe in blind faith rather than using reason. You have exception but even then it usually tries to get put down from religious zealots.

That's issue with the religious societies it will create retarded societies. My only interest is creating progress within fields without reason we are but the apes we are nothing like what god constructed us to be.

Know too the issue of polygamous societies where do i even start nearly 80 percent of men are suffering constantly they can't think rationally cause women was made to complete the man. We see this constantly in nature 1 gender compliments the other. It is not 1 gender's role to think itself superior over another but rather to complement each other. Same applies to polygamous societies it unironically creates the patriarchy women whine against.

If most people don't have some form of partner that compliments them they will be irrational.

Oh and the 2nd from worst societies the hedonists this cancer will make thinking that which happens here and know is the standard rather than looking ahead Like Aristotle did. instead they drink and gamble do what ever to enjoy their own fleeting exsistance if it means they won't have to face the wrath of a angry god allegorically speaking off course. Usually it is the form of collapse the judgement comes.


And the worst societies of all the nihilists those who think reality is cruel by nature. Those who think the universe is pitted against them. these are the types the ones that hate their own humanity so in turn turn to nihilistic ends to justify their own self hatred. We see this within religion's Islam promotes the idea that life in general has no inherent purpose beyond being a martyr for Allah and going to the eternal heavens above same with Christianity.

These ideas are where the conception of original sin came from.Man in his nihilism hated being rational so he went away away from it instead he turned to a all judging god rather than looking at god as a supreme intelligence a supreme being they look at him as some sort of a cartoonish Platonist concept.

The root of all nihilism is the malevolent universe premise.

So where would we be in this scale i would argue in all 3 minus the first in the west. We are starting to see the beginning stages of polygamy being common it's not their yet but it's getting their. hedonism is already mainstream as we waste without thinking about the future especially creating rational kids. and the last kind NIHILISM is very popular in mainstream climate change over population these are nihilistic idea's.

And all will breed irrational children It's why the west is getting dumber same with the middle east the it's still nihilism just of a different variant.

We need a better solution we need a pro human pro progress with a rational god at it's forefront I would call this reilgion the worship of the supreme being this should be what we are aiming for.

 

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[Deleted member 19236]

We need a World Government Technocracy. No space left for feelings. Go back to work.

 

[jackwolfskin999]

We need Hitler

 

[Deleted member 15752]

We need Hitler

 

[Allblueeeee]

> it is strictly against progress in the sciences or the mathematics as it holds onto dogma

That's not true. At least for the muslims. The first word of the quran is "read". Which can be referred to the quran but also to read and educate yourself. However, the muslim countries suck the most in sciences. The quran doesn't hold them back, it's their own choice. They just suck and are not forward thinking.

Now imagine if the western society would believe in the truth (islam), live accordingly to it and also do science - perfect society.
SCIENCE is not ANTI-Religion.

We need Islam buddy boyos. now.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

All technological advances happened under a social and politically controlled Christian Humanist environment in the West.

One could argue that secularism didn’t fully usurp Christianity until the 1980’s, that was honestly the last time that Christianity had much of any influence on society.

 

[GoonCel]

We need a World Government Technocracy. No space left for feelings. Go back to work.

world gov would be horrible

 

[ryhan]

We need a World Government Technocracy. No space left for feelings. Go back to work.

Hmmmmmm no this falls into the same cancer as the rest it is irrational to think we need some sort of a elitist mind to guide humanity this is strictly against what i'm preaching i am preaching a rational existence that worships a rational god the supreme being
That's not true. At least for the muslims. The first word of the quran is "read". Which can be referred to the quran but also to read and educate yourself.


You maybe right however the main issue is dude context matters very little cause it is seen as the literal words of allha himself that's why it is against progress if it contradicts the book it contradicts the words of allha himself do you see the issue here you can try and make Islam fit your mold but at the end of the day you can never escape the fact it is supposed to be the literal word of god which means it cannot change no matter how you try and change this dude.


However, the muslim countries suck the most in sciences. The quran doesn't hold them back, it's their own choice. They just suck and are not forward thinking.


However dude again i keep saying this their are reasons why islam oppresses it at it's very roots even at the base infinitesimals if it is the literal word of god not a single word can be contradicted.

Now imagine if the western society would believe in the truth (islam), live accordingly to it and also do science - perfect society.
SCIENCE is not ANTI-Religion.


No i don't want this faith to take over i want a better faith the worship of the supreme being

All technological advances happened under a social and politically controlled Christian Humanist environment in the West.

One could argue that secularism didn’t fully usurp Christianity until the 1980’s, that was honestly the last time that Christianity had much of any influence on society.

All technological advances happened under a social and politically controlled Christian Humanist environment in the West.


That just isn't true most innovations happened by small individuals who expanded on a problem that 100's of people struggled on Look at Fermat's equation that took near centuries just for it to be solved same applies with many things all innovations happen by people who tap into the god force all of the universe is just cosmic music god is the master musician and you can tap into it.

''One could argue that secularism didn’t fully usurp Christianity until the 1980’s, that was honestly the last time that Christianity had much of any influence on society.''

Well again even that religion is nihilistic original sin the conception we are inherently evil by nature how is this not nihilism in some contextualization ? my reilgion is worship of the god of the physicists a literal all rational force aristotle laid found works for this being with the cosmological argument

1 That which has potential to move must be actualized by an actualize.
2 This is happening here and know not in a time line sense but a functional sense for a power cord cannot be powered without a power socket.
3 these functions cannot go to infinity.
4 An unactualized actualizer created these functions in this current universe so a very physical force is moving the universe.
5 call this force what 1 wishes it has attributes.
6 It is rational it is literally moving the universe.
7 this can work with a eternal finite or even infinite universe as the argument is concerned with the function of a entity or as the universe as a whole rather than time line.
C1 we live in a rational real universe which has potential which is actualized by that which is not created and as functioning of off him for like the plants the plants cannot function without the sun feeding it energy so to the universe and all it's laws cannot function without a unactualized actualizer moving it the unmoved mover.
C2 the unmoved mover would have to be a single rather than a multiple cause you can't have multiple begging function points at a function maybe with timelines it's possible but with functions their is a single base point.
C3 This god is rational being rather than a irrational being because that which moves it constantly must be above that which is created.

This is the simplified version i kind of fell into the platonist trap for a while left that cancer but even Aristotelianism points to god a much better one who is all reasonable and communicable rather than being separate from exsistance like some divine mind