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From: https://incels.is/threads/when-genetics-are-wasted.606791/#post-15050665
OP: "I find homosexuality disturbing and repulsive but is there any secular justification for finding it immoral or a rational reason to hate it besides "muh feels"?"
Anonymous: "So you're after a non-religious reason to hate faggots? Sure thing."
"If homosexuality is comparable to infertility, then it is a disability."
"If homosexuality is comparable to straight people engaging in oral sex, then it is a fetish."
"If homosexuality is comparable to friendships with the same gender, why do they have sex?"
"If homosexuality is safe, why do homosexuals spread the most STDs and literally tear apart each others' sphincters?"
"If homosexuality is a valid means of romantic bonding, why does nature disallow them reproduction?"
"If homosexual "love" is as pure as natural love, why are gays so much more promiscuous?"
"If there nothing inherently wrong with being a homosexual, why would an entirely homosexual society cease to exist beyond a single generation?"
"Degenerates and liberals will take you on a wild chase through fallacious logic and appeals to emotion, but at the end of the day, the truth has always been our very first thought as children when we saw gays."
"ERROR."
"Errors occur in nature all the time, and homosexuality is a perfect example of error. Somewhere in the brain of every homosexual a critical error has occurred. In what other situation is an error encouraged or rewarded as it is in homosexuality in today's media? You may ask yourself how this error affects you. The answer is simple. Homosexuality, despite what you are told to believe, can be indoctrinated. Why do you think the rate of children who "turn out" gay skyrockets in the presence of gay "parents"?"
"Let us dissect the delusional phrase, "homosexuality is not a choice."
First, we must establish some axioms and definitions."
- "One is mentally ill if one is psychologically incapable of refraining from a biologically non-necessity activity or desire.
Biologically necessary activities or desires are those without which a species cannot perpetuate itself through generations: e.g., procurement and consumption of resources, expurgation of waste, survival to sexual maturity, sexual reproduction, and education of the young.
-Desires are either biological or psychological in character; they are distinguished according to whether the desire leads toward a biologically necessary or biologically non-necessary activity."
- "Desires are either innate or habitual. Habitual desires are acquired desires. Consider an example: A person who has never had alcohol cannot desire to drink alcohol for alcohol's sake, but only for some other sake, e.g., acceptance in a peer group. Further, a person who has not acquired a refined taste for scotch through frequent consumption thereof cannot desire to drink Oban for Oban's sake, but only for the sake of scotch in general, for curiosity, or for something else. Therefore, habitual desires are the result of certain activities. Innate desires, however, are not."
- "Homosexual desires are by the former definitions not biological desires."
- "The meaning of other terms are taken from their accepted use in ordinary discourse."
"One is a homosexual if and only if one either 1) engages in homosexual activity, 2) has homosexual desires, or 3) has homosexual desires and engages in homosexual activity."
"With these laid down, what follows is all possible propositions."
"If (1): One engages in homosexual activity either A) voluntarily or B) involuntarily,
(1.A): One chooses to be homosexual, and homosexuality is a choice.
(1.B): One is compelled to engage either i) psychologically or ii) physically, by another, and homosexuality is not a choice.
(1.B.i): One is mentally ill, by the definition of mental illness."
"If (2): One desires homosexuality either A) innately or B) habitually,
(2.B): One has acquired homosexual desires through homosexual activity. If one acquires these involuntarily through involuntary engagement in homosexual activity, one is either coerced by another or one is mentally ill. Otherwise homosexuality is a choice.
(2.A): One is either i) able to refrain from satisfying these innate homosexual desires or ii) unable to refrain.
(2.A.i): One chooses to be homosexual, and homosexuality is a choice.
(2.A.ii): One is mentally ill, by the definition of mental illness.
If (3): One either chooses to be homosexual or homosexuality is a mental illness."
"Therefore, homosexuals are mentally ill if and only if they do not choose to be homosexual and are not physically compelled by another to engage in homosexual activities. However, that is not the end of the discussion. Homosexuality, as a group of behaviors, is inherently self-destructive and causes self-harm. Homosexuality, as a group of behaviors, is statistically one of the most self-harmful. Willful pursuit or practice of a behavior-or group of behaviors-that is inherently self-harmful is mental illness."
"Marriage as a government institution is designed to incentivize childbirth and attempt to ensure that children (future citizens) are raised in the most stable environment possible-that being a two parent, mother and father, household. This is because all studies of marriage and familial relationship through thousands of years of recorded human history prove said environment is the most nurturing and stable. As a government institution, gays have no claim to being recognized-nor is it unfairly discriminatory-since it seeks to create an outcome which gays simply cannot provide."
"Marriage as a religious institution is defined by the parameters of that religion. Christian doctrine, for example, says gays cannot marry. Thus, they cannot, when considering marriage as a religious institution. This applies to any religion that does or does not allow gay marriage."
"Marriage as a social institution merely proclaims mutual love between two people. This is unregulated and unaffected by legal institution. Anyone can say they're married to anyone as long as the other party is consenting. Essentially, gay marriage seeks turn the institution into a purely social union, since government subsidized gay marriage is a tax drain. This will have cultural and societal implications once marriage is devalued."
"Regarding marriage itself, the institution is not a human right. Nor is it definitionally an all-inclusive bastion of equality. See above for its definitions. Equality of race, an equally incorrect concept, does not imply that a caucasoid could claim to be an Australian aborigine to reap the benefits of assistance programs for aboriginal groups. Nor is marriage discrimination. The creation of a definition for a word in no way intends persecution of things to which the word does not apply."
"The slippery slope fallacy is often brought up, by gays, as a means by which to discredit the belief that "normalizing homosexual relationships will lead to the "normalization" of other universally incorrect behaviors. Those who oppose gay marriage are often called 'bigots' (without regard for the definition of the word), but those who oppose polygamy, incest, and pedophilia (even ephebophilia) are well within their rights to do so. Those who support these things are 'crazy' and even 'mentally ill', just as gays were until a vote in 1970 ignored the science of their affliction and removed them from the DSM. But if we are allowing gay marriage to be seen as "normal", what right do gays have to restrict polygamists, incestuals, and pedophiles from receiving the same "equality"?"
"Homosexuals also use appeals to emotion in claiming they are to be forcibly made equal. The argument that gays cannot see their 'partners' in hospitals as they are not recognized as family is one of these examples. But if a hotel banned female patrons from entering, it would not be the job of the government to redefine the word 'women' to mean 'men' so that they could enter. Nor is it the job of the government to change the hospital's policy. In a free market society, it is the job of the collective mind of the patrons of the hospital to agree or disagree with its policies, choosing another facility if the latter."
"Homosexuals denounce marriage as a failed institution due to a high rate of divorce and other problems. Leaving the cause of the rise of such problems for another discussion, why would any sane individual, acknowledging and repeating said statistics and probabilities regarding marriage, still demand to be a part of said institution? Additionally, if marriage is increasingly deviating from its original meaning, why would you desire to implement further perversion of that meaning? 'Marriage' has been distorted and watered down, therefore we should further distort and water down marriage?"
"Homosexuals claim that, as many straight couples do not have children, it is irrelevant that gays cannot reproduce. This, again, is fallacious. Marriage not universally resulting in offspring does not nullify its purpose-breeding rights. The right (decision) of a couple to ensure the continuance of their genetics by agreeing to only perpetuate said genes with each other. Age of consent laws are intended to protect children from making immature decisions, but many adults make immature decisions, as well. Age of consent laws do not universally serve their intended purpose, and they have changed many times. Straight couples not reproducing does not prove that marriage laws should be changed any more than it proves they shouldn't."
"Homosexuals will argue that they "deserve" the tax concessions and other social benefits of marriage, but many non-married, cohabiting couples in either sexual or nonsexual relationships "deserve" said advantages, as well. Why, then, does a single man not deserve or receive these benefits?"
"Finally, homosexuals will argue that their ability to marry will "not affect heterosexual marriage or family values. However, this, again, does not prove anything about a necessity, requirement, or even an argument for changing the definition of marriage. The definition of a word is not obliged to change based on the assertion-fallacious, in this case, or otherwise-that the majority won't be affected."
"We know know how rabies works. An infected animal becomes more aggressive prior to death. It will end up biting other animals to spread the infection along. This is an example of a behavior-modifying organism. What you probably don't know is that there are hundreds of other organisms that also affect behavior. A virus causes caterpillars to climb up trees. Then it liquifies their organs so the body disintegrates and the virus can be spread by the wind. [1] There is a STD for grasshoppers that makes them more sexually active. [2] In the days prior to experiencing the symptoms of the flu, the virus will make you more sociable so can transmit it more. [3]"
"Here's the real kicker though: There is a parasite that has the ability to modify sexual preference. Toxoplasma gondii. You've probably heard of T. gondii as the amoeba that infects cats. There's a lot more to it than that. Rats are a carrier of T. gondii. When infected, a rat will be attracted to cat urine, making it more likely to be eaten by a cat, the intended host. How does it work? Toxoplasma alters the brain to make the rat sexually attracted to cat urine. [4]"
"Toxoplasma's ability to make rats sexually attracted persists even after the rat is no longer infected. [4.1]
That's right- a parasite has the ability to PERMANENTLY ALTER SEXUAL PREFERENCE in its host. Dig deeper into the facts behind T. gondii and we see:
1/3 of all humans are chronic carriers of toxoplasma. [5]"
"Males with toxoplasma are taller and have more attractive faces (Allowing you to have more sex and spread the virus further). [5]
Toxoplasmosis increases the concentration of dopamine in the brain of infected humans (You become more likely to do risky, thrill-seeking behavior). [5]
Toxoplasma immunoglobulins are found in 9% of newborns in the US (Hmm, where have we seen this figure before... Oh, right-it's same figure claimed as the percentage of homosexuals in the US). [9] Toxoplasma transfers from pregnant woman to their baby. [7]
Toxoplasma infected women have male sons 72% of the time. [8]"
"If you haven't pieced together the facts yet, I'll fill you in. Toxoplasma infects the fetus of pregnant mothers, making the baby more likely to be male and permanently altering the baby's brain to create sexual attraction to men. You've probably heard the false "genetic hypothesis" that claims that female siblings of gay men have more babies, meaning that gayness must be an advantage. Well, the sexual attraction to men. You've probably heard the false "genetic hypothesis" that claims that female siblings of gay men have more babies, meaning that gayness must be an advantage. The "gay gene" has been disproven, but toxoplasma explains why the sisters are having more babies. The same toxoplasma that altered their brother's brain altered their brain to increase their sexual attraction to men. Homosexual men are having more sex than their heterosexual counterparts, spreading toxoplasma further. Use HIV as a proxy for how effective homosexual behavior is at transmitting disease: homosexuals are 10% of the population but account for 60% of new HIV cases."
"In response to homosexuality, homosexual disgust (aka "homophobia") has evolved as a means to avoid toxoplasma infection. The purpose of disgust is disease avoidance. [10] You are disgusted at the sight of feces because feces has a lot of bacteria. You didn't need to learn to avoid feces; it's just genetic. Similarly, homophobia was found to be genetic, and also present in nearly half the population. [11] This means that homophobia evolved because it increases your darwinian fitness by helping you avoid toxoplasma."
[1] http://phenomena.nationalgeographic...ene-to-make-caterpillars-climb-to-their-doom/
[2] http://phenomena.nationalgeographic...itted-virus-sterilises-insects-turns-them-on/
[3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20816312
[4] http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0023277
[4.1] http://newscenterterkeley.edu/2013/...anently-shifts-balance-in-cat-and-mouse-game/
[5] http://jeb.biologists.org/content/216/1/127.1ong
[6] http://www.theguardian.com/science/2006/oct/12/uk.health
[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis
[8] http://www.theguardian.com/science/2006/oct/12/uk.health
[9] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17827351
[10] http://cargocollective.com/whp/Disgust-Disease
[11] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18347968
"One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3).
One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.
Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, in an orgy setting (7)."
"Many homosexuals don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: "Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior" (16). Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. "Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight- forward shouting matches characterized their presence" (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels "subjective distress") (27). Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up less than 1% of the population. Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27). 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13). 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11)."
"Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruise areas" and have anonymous sex."
"78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20). Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities" (10). Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals" (10). 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10)."
"Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, "Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person" (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality."
"It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us (10)."
"Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for less than 1% of the population."
"Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8). 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8). 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8). Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)."
"The median age of death of homosexuals 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8). The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8)."
"Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8). 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things (8)."
"On April 25, 2001, the CDC reported that: "We are seeing substantial increases in sexually transmitted diseases among men who have sex with men in multiple locations across this country."(31, 32) Homosexuals are responsible for the "first sexually transmitted outbreak of typhoid fever in the history of the United States. This disease is caused by ingesting human feces. (32) More than 10% of homosexuals in major U.S. urban areas are infected with HIV. To this day, they still make up more than 50% of reported AIDS cases in the United States. (30,31)"
"Homosexuals fellate almost 100% of their sexual contacts and ingest semen from about half of those. Semen contains virtually every germ carried in the blood stream, so this is about equivalent to ingesting raw human blood. (6) Sperm readily penetrates the anal wall (which is only one cell thick) and gains direct access to the bloodstream. This causes massive immunological damage to the body's T- and B-cell defensive systems. (14) 50% of male syphilis is carried by homosexuals as a rectal infection and can enter through the urethra of another homosexual during anal sex. (7) Around 67-80% of homosexuals lick and/or insert their tongues into the anuses of their partners (called "rimming", anilingus, fecal sex, etc.) and ingest biologically significant amounts of feces (7), which is the chief cause of hepatitis and parasitic infections among homosexuals. (8) This practice is called the "prime taste treat in sex" in the bestseller The Joy of Gay Sex."
"33% of homosexuals admit to fisting (inserting the hand, sometimes part of the arm, into the rectum of his partner). (7)
Urinating on each other ("golden showers") and torture has doubled among homosexuals since the 1940s, and fisting has increased astronomically. (7)"
"17% of homosexuals eat and/or rub the feces of their partners on themselves. (4) 12% of homosexuals give/receive enemas as part of sexual pleasure. (4) In one study, the average homosexual fellated somewhere between 20 and 106 men, swallowed 50 seminal discharges, had 72 penile penetrations of the anus, and ingested feces of 23 different men EVERY YEAR. (6) Of homosexuals questioned in one study, 43% admitted to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admitted to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% said that half of those partners were total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts were one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro," one minute stands). (3) Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex. See www.cruisingforsex.com (NOTE: this site may contain pornographic images - please don't go to it if you are under age or don't want to see this type of material. This site is referenced only for illustrative purposes.) One study reports that 90% of homosexuals have engaged in anal sex, and 66% engage in anal sex regularly. (6)
10% of homosexuals admit to eating feces and/or drinking contaminated enema water. (8) 29% of homosexuals engage in urine sex ("golden showers"). (8) In large cities, hospitals are often called on to remove objects from the rectums of homosexuals. Sometimes, the homosexuals do so much damage that they have to wear colostomy bags for the rest of their lives. (8)"
"50% of the calls to a hotline report "queer bashing" involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18). About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12). Homosexuals prey on children. 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7)."
"There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States. Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 1% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molester, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molester (19). 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)"
"Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22).
Because homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting "TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT" in their homosexual parades. A group called the "Lesbian Avengers" prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print "WE RECRUIT" on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren't as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert."
References:
(1) Advocate, 1985.
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry.
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexuality's: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978.
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299.
(5) "Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea." Lancet, April 25, 1987.
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men." New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE.
(8) Fields, Dr. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA.
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275.
(10) Kaifetz, J. "Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some," Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992.
(11) Kus, R. "Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America." Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254.
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994.
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11.
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. "Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens." J. American lied. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438.
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy
(16) MsKusick, L. et. al. "AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco." Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96.(17) Newsweek, February 1993.
(17) Newsweek, February 1993.
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993.
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37.
(20) Rueda, E. The Homosexual Network. Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53.
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, "Can We Talk."
(22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992.
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322.
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990.
(26) United States Census Bureau
(25) The Overhauling of Straight America." Guide Magazine. November, 1987.
(27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989.
(28) University of Chicago's Nation Research Corp.
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.
(30) Reuters, Feb. 5, 2001(32) Associated Press, April 25, 2001
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I will dump the following screencap on here so it is easier to follow.There's a flamboyant faggot at my workplace. I hate having to share a workplace with faggots, it makes me want to throw up. It's even worse from a blackpilled perspective, because here's the thing: that faggot is 6'5. Imagine being blessed with those genetics. You would be swimming in pussy, right? Now imagine this shit: that faggot has flushed his genetics down the toilet, and what for? So that he can take dicks in his ass. How can this life be so unfair, to the point where it would gift degenerates like that with Chad-tier height?!? While men like us, who would actually make the most of that height, have NOTHING?!? THIS IS SUCH A FUCKING JOKE. FUCK THIS FUCKING CLOWN WORLD!!!!!! FUCK IT ALL!!!!!!!!!
OP: "I find homosexuality disturbing and repulsive but is there any secular justification for finding it immoral or a rational reason to hate it besides "muh feels"?"
Anonymous: "So you're after a non-religious reason to hate faggots? Sure thing."
"If homosexuality is comparable to infertility, then it is a disability."
"If homosexuality is comparable to straight people engaging in oral sex, then it is a fetish."
"If homosexuality is comparable to friendships with the same gender, why do they have sex?"
"If homosexuality is safe, why do homosexuals spread the most STDs and literally tear apart each others' sphincters?"
"If homosexuality is a valid means of romantic bonding, why does nature disallow them reproduction?"
"If homosexual "love" is as pure as natural love, why are gays so much more promiscuous?"
"If there nothing inherently wrong with being a homosexual, why would an entirely homosexual society cease to exist beyond a single generation?"
"Degenerates and liberals will take you on a wild chase through fallacious logic and appeals to emotion, but at the end of the day, the truth has always been our very first thought as children when we saw gays."
"ERROR."
"Errors occur in nature all the time, and homosexuality is a perfect example of error. Somewhere in the brain of every homosexual a critical error has occurred. In what other situation is an error encouraged or rewarded as it is in homosexuality in today's media? You may ask yourself how this error affects you. The answer is simple. Homosexuality, despite what you are told to believe, can be indoctrinated. Why do you think the rate of children who "turn out" gay skyrockets in the presence of gay "parents"?"
"Let us dissect the delusional phrase, "homosexuality is not a choice."
First, we must establish some axioms and definitions."
- "One is mentally ill if one is psychologically incapable of refraining from a biologically non-necessity activity or desire.
Biologically necessary activities or desires are those without which a species cannot perpetuate itself through generations: e.g., procurement and consumption of resources, expurgation of waste, survival to sexual maturity, sexual reproduction, and education of the young.
-Desires are either biological or psychological in character; they are distinguished according to whether the desire leads toward a biologically necessary or biologically non-necessary activity."
- "Desires are either innate or habitual. Habitual desires are acquired desires. Consider an example: A person who has never had alcohol cannot desire to drink alcohol for alcohol's sake, but only for some other sake, e.g., acceptance in a peer group. Further, a person who has not acquired a refined taste for scotch through frequent consumption thereof cannot desire to drink Oban for Oban's sake, but only for the sake of scotch in general, for curiosity, or for something else. Therefore, habitual desires are the result of certain activities. Innate desires, however, are not."
- "Homosexual desires are by the former definitions not biological desires."
- "The meaning of other terms are taken from their accepted use in ordinary discourse."
"One is a homosexual if and only if one either 1) engages in homosexual activity, 2) has homosexual desires, or 3) has homosexual desires and engages in homosexual activity."
"With these laid down, what follows is all possible propositions."
"If (1): One engages in homosexual activity either A) voluntarily or B) involuntarily,
(1.A): One chooses to be homosexual, and homosexuality is a choice.
(1.B): One is compelled to engage either i) psychologically or ii) physically, by another, and homosexuality is not a choice.
(1.B.i): One is mentally ill, by the definition of mental illness."
"If (2): One desires homosexuality either A) innately or B) habitually,
(2.B): One has acquired homosexual desires through homosexual activity. If one acquires these involuntarily through involuntary engagement in homosexual activity, one is either coerced by another or one is mentally ill. Otherwise homosexuality is a choice.
(2.A): One is either i) able to refrain from satisfying these innate homosexual desires or ii) unable to refrain.
(2.A.i): One chooses to be homosexual, and homosexuality is a choice.
(2.A.ii): One is mentally ill, by the definition of mental illness.
If (3): One either chooses to be homosexual or homosexuality is a mental illness."
"Therefore, homosexuals are mentally ill if and only if they do not choose to be homosexual and are not physically compelled by another to engage in homosexual activities. However, that is not the end of the discussion. Homosexuality, as a group of behaviors, is inherently self-destructive and causes self-harm. Homosexuality, as a group of behaviors, is statistically one of the most self-harmful. Willful pursuit or practice of a behavior-or group of behaviors-that is inherently self-harmful is mental illness."
"Marriage as a government institution is designed to incentivize childbirth and attempt to ensure that children (future citizens) are raised in the most stable environment possible-that being a two parent, mother and father, household. This is because all studies of marriage and familial relationship through thousands of years of recorded human history prove said environment is the most nurturing and stable. As a government institution, gays have no claim to being recognized-nor is it unfairly discriminatory-since it seeks to create an outcome which gays simply cannot provide."
"Marriage as a religious institution is defined by the parameters of that religion. Christian doctrine, for example, says gays cannot marry. Thus, they cannot, when considering marriage as a religious institution. This applies to any religion that does or does not allow gay marriage."
"Marriage as a social institution merely proclaims mutual love between two people. This is unregulated and unaffected by legal institution. Anyone can say they're married to anyone as long as the other party is consenting. Essentially, gay marriage seeks turn the institution into a purely social union, since government subsidized gay marriage is a tax drain. This will have cultural and societal implications once marriage is devalued."
"Regarding marriage itself, the institution is not a human right. Nor is it definitionally an all-inclusive bastion of equality. See above for its definitions. Equality of race, an equally incorrect concept, does not imply that a caucasoid could claim to be an Australian aborigine to reap the benefits of assistance programs for aboriginal groups. Nor is marriage discrimination. The creation of a definition for a word in no way intends persecution of things to which the word does not apply."
"The slippery slope fallacy is often brought up, by gays, as a means by which to discredit the belief that "normalizing homosexual relationships will lead to the "normalization" of other universally incorrect behaviors. Those who oppose gay marriage are often called 'bigots' (without regard for the definition of the word), but those who oppose polygamy, incest, and pedophilia (even ephebophilia) are well within their rights to do so. Those who support these things are 'crazy' and even 'mentally ill', just as gays were until a vote in 1970 ignored the science of their affliction and removed them from the DSM. But if we are allowing gay marriage to be seen as "normal", what right do gays have to restrict polygamists, incestuals, and pedophiles from receiving the same "equality"?"
"Homosexuals also use appeals to emotion in claiming they are to be forcibly made equal. The argument that gays cannot see their 'partners' in hospitals as they are not recognized as family is one of these examples. But if a hotel banned female patrons from entering, it would not be the job of the government to redefine the word 'women' to mean 'men' so that they could enter. Nor is it the job of the government to change the hospital's policy. In a free market society, it is the job of the collective mind of the patrons of the hospital to agree or disagree with its policies, choosing another facility if the latter."
"Homosexuals denounce marriage as a failed institution due to a high rate of divorce and other problems. Leaving the cause of the rise of such problems for another discussion, why would any sane individual, acknowledging and repeating said statistics and probabilities regarding marriage, still demand to be a part of said institution? Additionally, if marriage is increasingly deviating from its original meaning, why would you desire to implement further perversion of that meaning? 'Marriage' has been distorted and watered down, therefore we should further distort and water down marriage?"
"Homosexuals claim that, as many straight couples do not have children, it is irrelevant that gays cannot reproduce. This, again, is fallacious. Marriage not universally resulting in offspring does not nullify its purpose-breeding rights. The right (decision) of a couple to ensure the continuance of their genetics by agreeing to only perpetuate said genes with each other. Age of consent laws are intended to protect children from making immature decisions, but many adults make immature decisions, as well. Age of consent laws do not universally serve their intended purpose, and they have changed many times. Straight couples not reproducing does not prove that marriage laws should be changed any more than it proves they shouldn't."
"Homosexuals will argue that they "deserve" the tax concessions and other social benefits of marriage, but many non-married, cohabiting couples in either sexual or nonsexual relationships "deserve" said advantages, as well. Why, then, does a single man not deserve or receive these benefits?"
"Finally, homosexuals will argue that their ability to marry will "not affect heterosexual marriage or family values. However, this, again, does not prove anything about a necessity, requirement, or even an argument for changing the definition of marriage. The definition of a word is not obliged to change based on the assertion-fallacious, in this case, or otherwise-that the majority won't be affected."
"We know know how rabies works. An infected animal becomes more aggressive prior to death. It will end up biting other animals to spread the infection along. This is an example of a behavior-modifying organism. What you probably don't know is that there are hundreds of other organisms that also affect behavior. A virus causes caterpillars to climb up trees. Then it liquifies their organs so the body disintegrates and the virus can be spread by the wind. [1] There is a STD for grasshoppers that makes them more sexually active. [2] In the days prior to experiencing the symptoms of the flu, the virus will make you more sociable so can transmit it more. [3]"
"Here's the real kicker though: There is a parasite that has the ability to modify sexual preference. Toxoplasma gondii. You've probably heard of T. gondii as the amoeba that infects cats. There's a lot more to it than that. Rats are a carrier of T. gondii. When infected, a rat will be attracted to cat urine, making it more likely to be eaten by a cat, the intended host. How does it work? Toxoplasma alters the brain to make the rat sexually attracted to cat urine. [4]"
"Toxoplasma's ability to make rats sexually attracted persists even after the rat is no longer infected. [4.1]
That's right- a parasite has the ability to PERMANENTLY ALTER SEXUAL PREFERENCE in its host. Dig deeper into the facts behind T. gondii and we see:
1/3 of all humans are chronic carriers of toxoplasma. [5]"
"Males with toxoplasma are taller and have more attractive faces (Allowing you to have more sex and spread the virus further). [5]
Toxoplasmosis increases the concentration of dopamine in the brain of infected humans (You become more likely to do risky, thrill-seeking behavior). [5]
Toxoplasma immunoglobulins are found in 9% of newborns in the US (Hmm, where have we seen this figure before... Oh, right-it's same figure claimed as the percentage of homosexuals in the US). [9] Toxoplasma transfers from pregnant woman to their baby. [7]
Toxoplasma infected women have male sons 72% of the time. [8]"
"If you haven't pieced together the facts yet, I'll fill you in. Toxoplasma infects the fetus of pregnant mothers, making the baby more likely to be male and permanently altering the baby's brain to create sexual attraction to men. You've probably heard the false "genetic hypothesis" that claims that female siblings of gay men have more babies, meaning that gayness must be an advantage. Well, the sexual attraction to men. You've probably heard the false "genetic hypothesis" that claims that female siblings of gay men have more babies, meaning that gayness must be an advantage. The "gay gene" has been disproven, but toxoplasma explains why the sisters are having more babies. The same toxoplasma that altered their brother's brain altered their brain to increase their sexual attraction to men. Homosexual men are having more sex than their heterosexual counterparts, spreading toxoplasma further. Use HIV as a proxy for how effective homosexual behavior is at transmitting disease: homosexuals are 10% of the population but account for 60% of new HIV cases."
"In response to homosexuality, homosexual disgust (aka "homophobia") has evolved as a means to avoid toxoplasma infection. The purpose of disgust is disease avoidance. [10] You are disgusted at the sight of feces because feces has a lot of bacteria. You didn't need to learn to avoid feces; it's just genetic. Similarly, homophobia was found to be genetic, and also present in nearly half the population. [11] This means that homophobia evolved because it increases your darwinian fitness by helping you avoid toxoplasma."
[1] http://phenomena.nationalgeographic...ene-to-make-caterpillars-climb-to-their-doom/
[2] http://phenomena.nationalgeographic...itted-virus-sterilises-insects-turns-them-on/
[3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20816312
[4] http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0023277
[4.1] http://newscenterterkeley.edu/2013/...anently-shifts-balance-in-cat-and-mouse-game/
[5] http://jeb.biologists.org/content/216/1/127.1ong
[6] http://www.theguardian.com/science/2006/oct/12/uk.health
[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis
[8] http://www.theguardian.com/science/2006/oct/12/uk.health
[9] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17827351
[10] http://cargocollective.com/whp/Disgust-Disease
[11] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18347968
"One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3).
One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.
Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, in an orgy setting (7)."
"Many homosexuals don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: "Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior" (16). Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. "Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight- forward shouting matches characterized their presence" (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels "subjective distress") (27). Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up less than 1% of the population. Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27). 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13). 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11)."
"Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruise areas" and have anonymous sex."
"78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20). Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities" (10). Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals" (10). 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10)."
"Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, "Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person" (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality."
"It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us (10)."
"Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for less than 1% of the population."
"Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8). 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8). 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8). Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)."
"The median age of death of homosexuals 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8). The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8)."
"Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8). 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things (8)."
"On April 25, 2001, the CDC reported that: "We are seeing substantial increases in sexually transmitted diseases among men who have sex with men in multiple locations across this country."(31, 32) Homosexuals are responsible for the "first sexually transmitted outbreak of typhoid fever in the history of the United States. This disease is caused by ingesting human feces. (32) More than 10% of homosexuals in major U.S. urban areas are infected with HIV. To this day, they still make up more than 50% of reported AIDS cases in the United States. (30,31)"
"Homosexuals fellate almost 100% of their sexual contacts and ingest semen from about half of those. Semen contains virtually every germ carried in the blood stream, so this is about equivalent to ingesting raw human blood. (6) Sperm readily penetrates the anal wall (which is only one cell thick) and gains direct access to the bloodstream. This causes massive immunological damage to the body's T- and B-cell defensive systems. (14) 50% of male syphilis is carried by homosexuals as a rectal infection and can enter through the urethra of another homosexual during anal sex. (7) Around 67-80% of homosexuals lick and/or insert their tongues into the anuses of their partners (called "rimming", anilingus, fecal sex, etc.) and ingest biologically significant amounts of feces (7), which is the chief cause of hepatitis and parasitic infections among homosexuals. (8) This practice is called the "prime taste treat in sex" in the bestseller The Joy of Gay Sex."
"33% of homosexuals admit to fisting (inserting the hand, sometimes part of the arm, into the rectum of his partner). (7)
Urinating on each other ("golden showers") and torture has doubled among homosexuals since the 1940s, and fisting has increased astronomically. (7)"
"17% of homosexuals eat and/or rub the feces of their partners on themselves. (4) 12% of homosexuals give/receive enemas as part of sexual pleasure. (4) In one study, the average homosexual fellated somewhere between 20 and 106 men, swallowed 50 seminal discharges, had 72 penile penetrations of the anus, and ingested feces of 23 different men EVERY YEAR. (6) Of homosexuals questioned in one study, 43% admitted to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admitted to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% said that half of those partners were total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts were one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro," one minute stands). (3) Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex. See www.cruisingforsex.com (NOTE: this site may contain pornographic images - please don't go to it if you are under age or don't want to see this type of material. This site is referenced only for illustrative purposes.) One study reports that 90% of homosexuals have engaged in anal sex, and 66% engage in anal sex regularly. (6)
10% of homosexuals admit to eating feces and/or drinking contaminated enema water. (8) 29% of homosexuals engage in urine sex ("golden showers"). (8) In large cities, hospitals are often called on to remove objects from the rectums of homosexuals. Sometimes, the homosexuals do so much damage that they have to wear colostomy bags for the rest of their lives. (8)"
"50% of the calls to a hotline report "queer bashing" involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18). About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12). Homosexuals prey on children. 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7)."
"There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States. Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 1% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molester, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molester (19). 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)"
"Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22).
Because homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting "TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT" in their homosexual parades. A group called the "Lesbian Avengers" prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print "WE RECRUIT" on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren't as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert."
References:
(1) Advocate, 1985.
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry.
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexuality's: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978.
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299.
(5) "Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea." Lancet, April 25, 1987.
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men." New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE.
(8) Fields, Dr. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA.
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275.
(10) Kaifetz, J. "Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some," Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992.
(11) Kus, R. "Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America." Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254.
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994.
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11.
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. "Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens." J. American lied. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438.
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy
(16) MsKusick, L. et. al. "AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco." Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96.(17) Newsweek, February 1993.
(17) Newsweek, February 1993.
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993.
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37.
(20) Rueda, E. The Homosexual Network. Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53.
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, "Can We Talk."
(22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992.
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322.
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990.
(26) United States Census Bureau
(25) The Overhauling of Straight America." Guide Magazine. November, 1987.
(27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989.
(28) University of Chicago's Nation Research Corp.
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.
(30) Reuters, Feb. 5, 2001(32) Associated Press, April 25, 2001
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