Murder Mario
I've killed more cunts than cervical cancer
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If a child can't consent to sex, a child can't consent to a sex change. Either way, it's not worth it. I'll die on that hill.
Most cases of childhood gender dysphoria will reconcile by the time they are adults. It is impossible to distinguish chronic gender dysphoria that will persist into adulthood to normal childhood development until a person is an adult. This should be something that a child should be allowed to choose for themselves when they grow up, and nobody should have the right to take that choice away from them in their youth. Sex change is not just the surgery, sex change begins with puberty blockers and hormone therapy, neither of which are truly reversible to their original form.
The effects of puberty blockers are not reversible, they are permanent, so are hormones, and especially surgeries. Plastic surgery does not truly replace what you've lost if you change your mind. Blockers also inhibit penile growth and cause vaginal atrophy, meaning if kids who get them do grow into adults with chronic gender dysphoria and they need to get bottom surgery, they can't because there isn't enough tissue for the doctors to construct with. If that wasn't enough, it puts kids at a higher risk for certain cancers and suicidality. Many, many people are coming out now saying that their puberty blockers, HRT or both worsened their mental health.
In other words, most people who transition as a child will either grow up into someone with acquired gender dysphoria as a result of their treatments, who will never experience sexuality and sexual sensation as a result of their treatments, or who cannot treat their gender dysphoria because they cannot get the surgery they need due to their treatments. It's a lose lose situation, even if you end up with a body you identify with.
If you think there are not companies out there happy to profit off of well meaning parents by lying to them that transition is reversible and that their kid could die without, you'd be extremely naive. You'll be paying for expensive medical upkeep for your whole life, someone is making a LOT of money because of that. You will not find insurance that is happy to help you if you realize you messed up, because the companies don't want anyone to see that on paper, it makes them look bad. They see you as an economic battery, a number on a chart, and they'll keep you that way and quiet about it so you can't interfere.
Lastly, this is anecdotal, but I have personal experience with having childhood gender dysphoria that reconciled into adulthood. I was in a severely misogynistic and homophobic environment as a child, and I didn't understand that I was gay. If I had received gender affirming care at that time I would be in a world of hurt right now.
When it comes to parents' judgment, even a parent has no right to decide whether or not a child goes through extremely invasive medical intervention for something scientifically proven to resolve most of the time. Parents are not pillars of medical judgment, as evidenced by my own mother who wouldn't vaccinate me, so now I've had chicken pox and whooping cough and I'm at risk for shingles! The things here are backed up by decades of medical research and stories. Everyone should have the right to decide for themselves when they are an adult if they want to have their reproductive organs altered, and nobody should be able to take that choice away from them in their youth.
If you wanna let a child experiment with social transition? Sure, as long as you're not interfering with it and providing guidance. Honestly, acceptance is probably going to do wonders all on its own. Physical transition? Considering how many other treatments there are for it than removing organs and necessary stages of development, completely hyperbolic.
In a decade from now when a lot of these kids are suffering and hate their parents for taking that choice away from them, people will be wishing that they listened to the whistleblowers. It's already starting, and the numbers are growing rapidly.
Was asked for sources, you're welcome:
Wikipedia: pay attention to "history" there is no current FDA approval for the use of Lupron(puberty blockers) for transgender children. "Vaginal bleeding" and "development of future osteoporosis" are common side effects. The drug has a history of medicare fraud and illegal marketing practices. Used in chemical castration. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuprorelin
Lupron plead guilty to violating the prescription drug marketing act seen here, which was the largest criminal fine ever in health care fraud percecution as of the time of the event: https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2001/October/513civ.htm
Study finds bone issues versus the actual results of lupron is not worth the risk: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa013555#t=articleTop
Study finds five unrelated children developed the same bone disease within only years of taking the drug: https://karger.com/hrp/article-abst...pital-Femoral-Epiphysis-in?redirectedFrom=PDF
Study finds that adult men using lupron in the treatment of prostate cancer experience severe bone fracture risk and it wasn't worth it: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16258089/
Women recommended not to take lupron for more than 6 months when trying to alleviate uterine issues by inducing menopause: https://www.luprongyn.com/lupron-for-endometriosis
Survey results of severe side effects: https://www.hormonesmatter.com/lupron-side-effects-survey-results-scope-severity-side-effects/
55 kids develop severe side effects due to Lupron(and off label) including vision loss, growth of preexisting tumors, and highly increased asthma severity.(2010 ) https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3260007-Leuprolide-M90-516-Lee-Lupron-Study.html
In 1993 a letter from the director of the Freedom of Information Act lamented that the drug was approved with minimal study.
A warning in 2009 against the use of lupron by the International Consortium of Pediatricians because they were widely used and continue to be without any proper safety reviews. https://publications.aap.org/pediat...e-Use-of-Gonadotropin?redirectedFrom=fulltext
A 2022 FDA warning about lupron and puberty blockers, citing severe health risks for teens including seizures and tumors. https://publications.aap.org/aapnew...ded-to-labeling-for?autologincheck=redirected
Shut down of Tavistok by the NHS due toproven issues with poor evidence, risk of harm and operational failures: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...wn-london-gender-identity-clinic-for-children
Anecdotal story from a young detransitioner, including puberty blocker perspective: https://www.lipstickalley.com/threa...e-uks-law-that-is-receiving-backlash.4154002/
Finland's leading researcher and advocate for transgender psychology releases a study that 4/5 trans kids grow out of it, claims US medical system is "scaring parents into medical treatment"https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/finland-youth-gender-medicine
Concerns about gender affirming therapy in adolescents, practice failed to produce improvements in mental health and instead discovered associated harms. The effectiveness is inconclusive. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00358-x
In the last 10 years the rate of detransition surgery has risen from 1% to 5 to 10%, up to 1,000 times what it previously was. https://www.kulr8.com/news/national/transgender-detransition-surgery-is-on-the-rise/video_464d03bb-3feb-5ff0-b048-4cb481fc2b4d.html#:~:text=Previous studies using data from,hovering around 5-10%.
Gender dysphoria diagnosis rises from 0.1% to 0.6% of the population, up to 0.75% https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9501960/#:~:text=It is estimated that 1.4,of Americans experience gender dysphoria.
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/10/e4261/6604653 a study in the rise of detransition, 4% in amab and 11% in afab
Study cites 61-98% of transgender children reconcile before adulthood. 6.9% of patients detransition within only 16 months, and an additional 3.4% stopped seeking treatment unofficially. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-023-02626-2
Another study predicts 13% rate of detransition. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8213007/
**"and which has an extremely high rate of diagnostic inaccuracy in kids."Point conceded, there is no official, study backed test for gender dysphoric disorder so it is inconclusive, which should scare you even more than a high rate of diagnostic inaccuracy because there is simply no diagnosis process happening. That means everyone is just kind of taking it at face value and running with it.
