Rape is immensely less traumatizing than long-term inceldom

[Deleted member 31092]

The women of today are unchaste whores who jump from penis to penis like it's nothing. Rape isn't a terrible crime, it is nothing more than a foid getting a penis when they didn't want it. A rape that causes no pregnancy, STDs, or lasting injury is legitimately no worse than petty theft or petty property damage (ie denting someone's car). Long term isolation and sexlessness on the other hand has legitimately proven to be at least as harmful to one's health as heavy smoking. So really, what's worse- a sterile, STD free man penetrating a foids hole for a few minutes (a hole which is designed to be penetrated, and a hole which see freely allows to be penetrated by numerous other men), or a decade+ of hardcore inceldom and loneliness- no sex, no hugs, no friends, no meaningful social interaction, no nothing.

 

[Deleted member 36465]

PIV rape should be a mild annoyance to women at worst. Vaginas were meant to be penetrated. Anal rape is traumatizing though.

 

[Eschewcel]

I do agree on this one tbh.

 

[Deleted member 31092]

PIV rape should be a mild annoyance to women at worst. Vaginas were meant to be penetrated. Anal rape is traumatizing though.

 

[Deleted member 36698]

imagine ben shapiro responding to this comment, epic

 

[FuRed]

Kind of agree.

Rape/sex with a subhuman incel man is basically truly horrible for a woman, it goes against all their natural instincts, as the gatekeepers of eugenics.

However prolonged incel also truly is horrible. Which is why escorts exist (whose job is to condition themselves for sex with subhuman men), so tbh no man should be a virgin past the age of 24. It's your own pride/stupidity which is at fault.

Without escorts both rape and suicides would skyrocket.

 

[Sennacherib]

Rape is immensely less traumatizing than long-term inceldom​

There's no trauma about rape,that's foids wet dream. Of course with a raping them.

 

[Deleted member 31361]

What you talkin bout cracka? Women love rape

 

[OwlGod]

complaints of sexual abuse or molestation should only be taken seriously in case of the victim being children or male.

 

[Deleted member 31092]

gatekeepers of eugenics.

This is cucked red/black pill thinking, worship of the "mother selector." Not only is foid sexual choice not eugenic, if anything it is positively dysgenic.

 

[Divergent_Integral]

My theory is that a large part of the psychological trauma caused by rape stems from societal imprinting that it's literally the worst thing that can happen to a foid (short of murder). If a foid were to be brought up in a social vacuum, she herself would never come up with the notion that rape is the most awful and traumatizing thing possible. If anything, such a foid would view rape as a minor inconvenience at the most.

 

[Deleted member 31092]

My theory is that a large part of the psychological trauma caused by rape stems from societal imprinting that it's literally the worst thing that can happen to a foid (short of murder). If a foid were to be brought up in a social vacuum, she herself would never come up with the notion that rape is the most awful and traumatizing thing possible. If anything, such a foid would view rape as a minor inconvenience at the most.

Valid hypothesis. I agree

 

[FuRed]

This is cucked red/black pill thinking, worship of the "mother selector." Not only is foid sexual choice not eugenic, if anything it is positively dysgenic.

That's cope.

I'll admit alot of sub-Chad men get through with other means, but all foids lust for Chad, which is why the 20/80 dynamic exists

 

[OwlGod]

My theory is that a large part of the psychological trauma caused by rape stems from societal imprinting that it's literally the worst thing that can happen to a foid (short of murder). If a foid were to be brought up in a social vacuum, she herself would never come up with the notion that rape is the most awful and traumatizing thing possible. If anything, such a foid would view rape as a minor inconvenience at the most.

It's not traumatizing, they just like to victimize themselves in every situation possible that'll possibly prospectively work in their favor.

 

[FuRed]

My theory is that a large part of the psychological trauma caused by rape stems from societal imprinting that it's literally the worst thing that can happen to a foid (short of murder). If a foid were to be brought up in a social vacuum, she herself would never come up with the notion that rape is the most awful and traumatizing thing possible. If anything, such a foid would view rape as a minor inconvenience at the most.

I kinda agree with this.

However it goes both ways, in a primitive society men would be happy with an ugly wife/partner or even happy being an incel that supports his leader breeding with women. We all are but products of our environment.

 

[OwlGod]

If rape was so traumatizing, and if they're really avert to it, then women wouldn't dresses sluttish, nor they demeanor wouldn't be so provocative and uncaring. the only aversion they've is to low-value males.

 

[Divergent_Integral]

This is cucked red/black pill thinking, worship of the "mother selector." Not only is foid sexual choice not eugenic, if anything it is positively dysgenic.

This. There was possibly something eugenic about selecting for Chad's features in harsh neolithic environments. Those features being a (not very reliable) proxy for health and ruggedness. But in today's physically comfortable yet cognitively very demanding environment, Chad's genetic and phenotypical properties are worth next to nothing, from a purely pragmatic point of view. For the survival of the human race in the technological age, it is currently of critical importance that high IQ, mentally stable, and agreeable individuals should reproduce preferentially. But alas, foids' mate selection criteria lag behind a "mere" ten millennia behind the times.

 

[OwlGod]

Eugenics is not possible if subpar women aren't excluded from the genepool too.

 

[FuRed]

If rape was so traumatizing, and if they're really avert to it, then women wouldn't dresses sluttish, nor they demeanor wouldn't be so provocative and uncaring. the only aversion they've is to low-value males.

False. They dress sluttish because they know they are protected in today's world from rape.

Eugenics is not possible if subpar women aren't excluded from the genepool too.

Yes it is, it just moves at a slower rate

 

[Divergent_Integral]

If rape was so traumatizing, and if they're really avert to it, then women wouldn't dresses sluttish, nor they demeanor wouldn't be so provocative and uncaring. the only aversion they've is to low-value males.

Rape can accurately be defined as ugly men having sex. Period. No need to invoke concepts like consent or force. For even if a foid initially concedes to having sex with an unattractive male, she will soon regret it (or her girlfriends will do so for her) and "realize" that her consent was given either under duress or under false pretext. That is to say, she will redefine her sexual encounter with the ugly male as rape; regardless of what actually happened.

 

[OwlGod]

False. They dress sluttish because they know they are protected in today's world from rape.

they aren't, what I am saying is that their own agency contributes to being raped, the causation is mutual.

Rape can accurately be defined as ugly men having sex. Period. No need to invoke concepts like consent or force. For even if a foid initially concedes to having sex with an unattractive male, she will soon regret it (or her girlfriends will do so for her) and "realize" that her consent was given either under duress or under false pretext. That is to say, she will redefine her sexual encounter with the ugly male as rape; regardless of what actually happened.

yes, and that's another reason to not take their victimization seriously. their libido is almost ,,Schrödinger", only switch positively if for attractive males.

 

[Deleted member 31092]

This. There was possibly something eugenic about selecting for Chad's features in harsh neolithic environments. Those features being a (not very reliable) proxy for health and ruggedness. But in today's physically comfortable yet cognitively very demanding environment, Chad's genetic and phenotypical properties are worth next to nothing, from a purely pragmatic point of view. For the survival of the human race in the technological age, it is currently of critical importance that high IQ, mentally stable, and agreeable individuals should reproduce preferentially. But alas, foids' mate selection criteria lag behind a "mere" ten millennia behind the times.

What I mean is that female sexual selection is not/has not been "eugenic" in any environment, whether that be the stone age or 2021. Thinking otherwise is cucked "Mother Selector" worship.

 

[FuRed]

they aren't, what I am saying is that their own agency contributes to being raped, the causation is mutual.

Yes, they are. They dress sluttish when they know they will be protected, either by authorities or white knights. They rarely dress sluttish when walking down a deserted street alone late night for instance. In that case yes she may be (temporarily or otherwise) mentally ill and open to being raped.

In my area actually they rarely dress slutty on account of it being a shithole.

 

[OwlGod]

Yes, they are. They dress sluttish when they know they will be protected, either by authorities or white knights. They rarely dress sluttish when walking down a deserted street alone late night for instance. In that case yes she may be (temporarily or otherwise) mentally ill and open to being raped.

In my area actually they rarely dress slutty on account of it being a shithole.

no one is denying that they're protected, this is implied, however, they could prevent most sexual assaults if they had manners.

 

[Divergent_Integral]

yes, and that's another reason to not take their victimization seriously. their libido is almost ,,Schrödinger", only switch positively if for attractive males.

True. But you, as an ostensibly rational male, seem to underestimate the mental anguish that this ambiguity of attraction causes the "raped" foid. By her twisted logic, it could only have been genuine consent if she felt attracted to the male both then and now. If the attraction fails at either of these points in time, she will feel violated to her core. Some foids even commit suicide after being raped. Again, I think this is due mostly to societal imprinting, instead of being an intrinsic consequence of the act. But the trauma is undeniable, even if it cannot be logically justified. Foids are strange creatures, whose emotions don't follow the ordinary laws of cause and effect. (Well, in a way they do, but not in an easily reducible manner.)

 

[OwlGod]

True. But you, as an ostensibly rational male, seem to underestimate the mental anguish that this ambiguity of attraction causes the "raped" foid. By her twisted logic, it could only have been genuine consent if she felt attracted to the male both then and now. If the attraction fails at either of these points in time, she will feel violated to her core. Some foids even commit suicide after being raped. Again, I think this is due mostly to societal imprinting, instead of being an intrinsic consequence of the act. But the trauma is undeniable, even if it cannot be logically justified. Foids are strange creatures, whose emotions don't follow the ordinary laws of cause and effect. (Well, in a way they do, but not in an easily reducible manner.)

fair enough. great post.

 

[Divergent_Integral]

fair enough. great post.

Thanks, brocel. This is the only place where I can have rational discussions about stuff like this.

 

[Deleted member 31092]

literally nothing wrong with them adding an extra number to their 3 digit body count

 

[RetardedChinlet]

Modern concept of rape intrinsically proves the blackpill

Rape = lack of consent, so no physical harm of any kind is necessary

If a physically good intercourse can still substitute rape, what other issue could there be besides the man's sub-par genetics? Rape = wrong genes.

 

[Mainländer]

At the very least, any sensible person would have to agree that raping a slut is less serious than raping a virgin, married or widowed woman. Most false rape allegations come from sluts as well.

 

[FuRed]

At the very least, any sensible person would have to agree that raping a slut is less serious than raping a virgin, married or widowed woman. Most false rape allegations come from sluts as well.

Definitely agree with this.

Problem is today basically all women are sluts

 

[Mainländer]

Definitely agree with this.

Problem is today basically all women are sluts

I suffered so much at the hands of women that my capacity to empathize with them is limited to extremely bad stuff. If a foid is tortured to death, yeah, I'll feel bad for her. But expecting me to feel bad for some slut who drank too much in some party and some normie with a face below her standards fucked her, when most foids have a "rape kink"? I just can't take it seriously.

 

[FuRed]

I suffered so much at the hands of women that my capacity to empathize with them is limited to extremely bad stuff. If a foid is tortured to death, yeah, I'll feel bad for her. But expecting me to feel bad for some slut who drank too much in some party and some normie with a face below her standards fucked her, when most foids have a "rape kink"? I just can't take it seriously.

Drunk foids are normies' meal tickets

the only reason they don't live incel

 

[Mainländer]

Drunk foids are normies' meal tickets

the only reason they don't live incel

If you think about it, one of feminism's main goals is making sure normie and below men can't have any ways of ascending outside of betabuxxing some old roastie.

Can't ascend with drunken foids, can't try to just be first with super young foids, etc.

 

[FuRed]

Can't ascend with drunken foids

Normies ascend with them all the time.

If by ascending you mean have a healthy and long term relationship then yes it can't be done.

 

[Mainländer]

Normies ascend with them all the time.

If by ascending you mean have a healthy and long term relationship then yes it can't be done.

I mean, it's feminism's goal, but still not 100% accomplished. They managed to make laws about it, but sometimes normies get away with it anyway.

 

[FuRed]

I mean, it's feminism's goal, but still not 100% accomplished

I see what you mean. Women are crazy today is the truth, they've never had so much power in history as today. Also top feminists in charge are all lesbians

 

[Mainländer]

I see what you mean. Women are crazy today is the truth, they've never had so much power in history as today. Also top feminists in charge are all lesbians

And some people even on incel forums of all places buy into feminist narratives.

It's over. Even so come lord Jesus, having any hope in this sick sad world still is fruitless.

 

[Deleted member 37833]

Lol, imagine a feminist seeing this post

 

[schwiftycel]

Just get consent and take risks.