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Serious Race & Iq

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Daytona600

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Do you guys think there is a correlation between race & iq? there is evidence on it due to genetics and around the world rankings (in which most of central Africa score in the 70s) but I want to hear everyone's opinion on it. Me being black and living in the inner city around LA, I get called white washed or uncle Tom for being able to think about shit they think is "too white to talk about" and me not believing in white privilege. I took a random online one and got 95, then took the Mensa and got 109 but didn't try so hard because I'm not so smart but self aware about things I guess.
 
im scared to take a legit IQ test
 
IQ is worthless. BBC is what matters
 
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Nah

Look at indians. In their home country they're retarded (84 or thereabouts). In the US they have the second highest IQ after ashkenazis and come before ricecels. Comes down to education.
 
Do you guys think there is a correlation between race & iq? there is evidence on it due to genetics and around the world rankings (in which most of central Africa score in the 70s) but I want to hear everyone's opinion on it. Me being black and living in the inner city around LA, I get called white washed or uncle Tom for being able to think about shit they think is "too white to talk about" and me not believing in white privilege. I took a random online one and got 95, then took the Mensa and got 109 but didn't try so hard because I'm not so smart but self aware about things I guess.
The problem with IQ tests is that they are not transferable between different continents and people. For example, if I make an analogy like "PROJECTOR : SCREEN :: LOTION : ???" and the answers are 1. Oil 2. Aloe 3. Carrot 4. Skin 5. None of the above, and I asked this question in America, I would expect to get a fair amount of correct answers. However, if you ask some Amazonian or Congo tribal warlord, he will just be like "Wtf is a projector? Wtf is a screen?" despite possibly having the potential for advanced cognitive abilities. They are simply irrelevant terms that probably don't even exist in their language.

For that reason, all IQ test statistics that compare one continent to another are bogus because there is no way to make a universal IQ test that fairly tests every person. Similarly, there is no way to adequately prove that two IQ tests are equal in their measurements - that, say, 100 on this test is the same thing as 100 on that test. Each IQ test is scored by an in-test forced bell curve. This means that even if the test was ridiculously easy or hard, then the average score would still be 100.

Let's also remember that IQ is a combination of both nature and nurture. A malnourished Ethiopian bloatbelly flymouth child could have had the genetic potential to be a genius, but because they missed every developmental milestone due to shit socioeconomic status, they are more valuable as a paperweight. And on top of this, the range within any population is always huge. The spread guarantees that there is at least one ethnic African that IQ mogs 99% of this forum.

A lot of people, especially on this forum, have no fucking idea what IQ is and keep spouting nonsense because certain "facts" about it fit their preconceived notions. Half of the shit that people cite in relation to IQ is pure quackery - bad science.

PS: "I didn't try so hard" is megacope. The whole point is that people who are truly smart wouldn't have to try all that hard to solve most of the problems in the first place.
 
Yes, racial differences in intelligence are very real.
Race and IQ tests

Some people are skeptical of the very ideas of “race” and “IQ”, so let’s deal with that first.

Races are just populations that evolved in different environments. Racial groups correspond to genetic clusters and differ enough genetically such that differences in IQ are plausible. If you really doubt the basic existence of race, see this article dealing with that subject in isolation.

Now let’s turn to IQ. The most popular IQ tests include items which test mathematical ability, pattern recognition, short-term memory, verbal comprehension, and vocabulary. They are not perfect measures of intelligence, but they predict how smart a person’s peers say they are as well as how well people do in school and on the job (Denissen et al., 2011; Palhusand and Morgan, 1997; Bailey and Hatch, 1979; Bailey and Mattetal, 1977). In fact, IQ is a better predictor of income and educational attainment than parental socio-economic status is (Strenze, 2006).

Now, you might think that other notions of intelligence are important too. Certainly, IQ is not the only important thing about a person and whether to call a given skill “intelligence” is just a fight about words. If you want, you can replace the term “intelligence” with “IQ”. The important point is not that IQ is everything we normally call intelligence, it’s not, but that it is real and important.
Some people think that IQ tests only measure intelligence among Europeans. This is not true. Surveys of experts show that the vast majority of researchers in this area do not think that IQ tests are substantially culturally biased, and this is for good reason.

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(Reeve and Charles, 2008)

If IQ tests painted non-Whites are being less intelligent than they actually are then they should under-predict how well non-Whites do in school and the work force. They do not (Kobrin, 2001; Cucina et al., 2016; Jensen, 1980). Moreover, if IQ tests are biased, there should be “bias” problems which are among the hardest problems for non-Whites but the easiest for Whites. Actually, Whites and non-Whites rank the difficulty of IQ tests items essentially identically (Jensen and McGurk, 1986; Reynolds and Suzuki, 2003). Further still, if IQ tests were really biased against non-Whites, you would expect Europeans to score the highest on them. They don’t, East Asians do (Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, 2012; Faulk, 2016A). In summary, the idea that IQ tests are culturally or racially biased makes several testable predictions and they have all been falsified.
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2017/01/07/race-and-iq-the-case-for-genes/
Establishing the Gap

It is uncontroversial that racial differences in IQ exist. Meta-analyses of data on more than 6,000,000 people have shown that Blacks in America score about 15 points lower than Whites do (Roth et al., 2001). East Asians, by contrast, score a few points higher than Whites do.

Of course, this does not mean that every African American has a lower IQ than every European American. Actually, these numbers imply that around one in ten African Americans will have an IQ of 100 or higher (the White average) and one in six Whites will have an IQ of 85 or lower (the Black average). The point is that these groups differ on average.

Why gaps matter

That being said, these gaps do matter. If you control for IQ, many social inequalities between the races disappear. For instance, if you hold IQ constant, Blacks are more likely than Whites to get a college degree and get paid the same for the same work.

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(Murray and Herrnstein, 1994)

Controlling for IQ also eliminates most of the Black-White Incarceration gap.

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(Murray and Herrnstein, 1994)

IQ is also an excellent predictor of national wealth, and changes in national IQ overtime predict changes in economic growth (Lynn and Vanhanen, 2012; Pietschnig and Voracek, 2015).

Thus, these differences have social importance aside from the fact that human differences are inherently interesting.

Obvious Environment Causes

At this point, some people may be thinking that the Black-White IQ gap can by explained away by poverty, racism, education, or single motherhood. These explanations have each been refuted.

First, let’s look at poverty. Poverty does correlate with IQ, but controlling for socio-economic status, whether measured by parental income, education, neighborhood, wealth, or any other way, does not eliminate the Black-White IQ gap. This has been shown in more than 60 studies over the last 100 years (Last, 2016A). In fact, poor Whites do better on standardized tests than rich Blacks do.

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(Black Journal of Higher Education, 2008)

The same is true of single motherhood. Even when just looking at people from two parent homes, the Black-White IQ gap persists (Prifitera et al., 2005, table 1.4; Weiss et al., 2016, table 5.6). Moreover, research has shown that the Black-White IQ gap, and the White-East Asian IQ gap, still exists even when only looking at people raised (via adoption) in White homes (Faulk, 2016A).

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(Loehlin 2000; Lynn, 2015)

Another possibility is that differences in access to education cause the Black-White IQ gap. This is not possible because the Black-White IQ gap exists by age 3 which is prior to the beginning of formal education (Malloy, 2013). Moreover, the Black-White IQ gap remains after controlling for parental education (Prifitera et al., 2005, table 1.4; Weiss et al., 2016, table 5.6). Further still, Blacks with graduate degrees score worse than Whites without even a four-year degree on tests of cognitive ability (Faulk and Last, 2016). Clearly then, education is not the cause of racial cognitive differences.

Finally, let’s look at racism. To affect intelligence, racism must impact Blacks through some concrete mechanism. As we’ve seen, racism making Blacks poorer, less educated, or more likely to be from single-parent homes cannot explain the IQ gap. Another possibility is that racism has caused Blacks to internalize negative stereotypes about their intellect which in turn impacts their performance on tests. This hypothesis is refuted by the fact that Blacks score higher than Whites on measures of general self-esteem and are more likely than Whites to describe themselves as being smarter than average (Twenge and Crocker, 2002).

“Black students estimate their own academic competence more highly than Whites despite their own objective and self reported lower academic achievement (Hare 1985: Table 3; Tashakkori 1993: 97). Black high school seniors in the Coleman study were more apt than Whites to classify themselves as “among the brightest” and less likely to agree that “Sometimes I feel that I just can’t learn” despite poor academic performance (Coleman et al. 1966L 287-288, Tables 3.13.11, 3.13.12). Remarkably, southern rural Blacks, whose academic performance fell below that of all other blacks as well as all Whites, were more apt than other Blacks to classify themselves as Bright and able to learn” – Levin, 2016, page 75
Beyond this, there is no obvious way that racism could lower the intelligence of Blacks. Moreover, the Black-White IQ gap is found all over the world, including in Black countries, and did not fall in America between 1920 and 1970 even though there was a huge decline in racism during this time (Last, 2016B).

To be fair, some of these potential causes, such as poverty, may contribute a few points to the Black-White IQ gap. However, they cannot account for even half of the difference, let alone all of it.

Evidence for a partly genetic cause

Obviously, these environmental explanations failing does not mean that a genetic explanation will succeed. So, why think genes have anything to do with racial intelligence differences, or, for that matter, intelligence in general?

We know that genes impact intelligence through studies of identical twins raised apart and non-biological relatives raised together. Such studies show that the heritability of IQ rises with age and is well over 50% by adulthood (Last, 2016C). This is backed up by studies showing that genetic similarity between individuals predicts how similar their IQ scores will be and by recent studies showing that genetic tests can predict standardized test performance (Last, 2016C, Selzam et al., 2016). This research also shows that non-biological relatives raised in the same home are no more similar than average in terms of IQ despite a far more similar than average experience in home environment. This suggests that differences in home environment explain little to no variation in intelligence in adults.

Before going any further, you should know that hereditarianism isn’t a fringe theory. Surveys show that most intelligence researchers take the hereditarian view on the Black-White IQ gap.

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(Rindermann, Coyle, and Becker, 2013)

Recent advances in genetics are consistent with this viewpoint. For instance, Piffer (2015) looked at racial differences in 9 IQ related gene variants and found that Whites were more likely than Blacks to have the high IQ related variants of all 9 genes. East Asians were also more likely than Whites to have the high IQ related gene variant in the majority of cases.

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Piffer used data on all nine of these gene variants to assign people a “polygenic score”. This polygenic score had an astoundingly high correlation of .93 with a nation’s mean IQ in a sample of 23 countries.

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Becker and Rindermann (2016) provided further direct genetic evidence when they analyzed data on 101 countries and found that the more genetically different two populations were the larger the IQ difference between them tended to be.

Another variable which predicts the regional cognitive ability is the average degree of White admixture in a population or, in other words, the degree to which the average person is genetically European. Fruest and Kirkegaard (2016) found this to be the case in data sets on American nations, states within Latin American nations such as Colombia, Brazil, and Mexico, and in US states.

Indirect evidence also points to a genetic explanation. Consider the fact scores on IQ test questions vary in their heritability. Some cognitive abilities are more heritable than others and it turns out that the more heritable a cognitive ability is the larger the racial gap in that ability tends to be (Jensen, 1973; Nichols 1970; Last, 2016D). This finding is easy to explain on the hereditarian view but very hard to explain otherwise.

Research has also shown repeatedly that mixed race individuals have IQ scores in between the mean scores of the races of their parents (Faulk, 2016B; Faulk 2016C). One study even found that this was true of mixed race Blacks who incorrectly believed they were fully Black (Weinberg et al., 1992). Further still, white admixture in African Americans has been shown to correlate with both their income and their educational attainment (Fuerst, 2014). Once again, this is exactly what the hereditarian viewpoint would predict.

Furthermore, Blacks have smaller brains than Whites, who have smaller brains than East Asians (Last, 2016E). Contrary to what you may have heard, brain size does predict a person’s IQ score. Moreover, changes in brain size over time predict changes in IQ, and the same genes which influence IQ are known to influence brain size. A plausible explanation for this data is that variation in brain size causes variation in IQ. More on this can be read about here.

There are several reasons to think that racial differences in brain size have a genetic cause. First, the races differ in brain size even at birth (Schultz, 1922; Rushton, 1997; Ho et al., 1980). Research also shows that the races differ in dozens of traits which tend to co-evolve with brain size in a way that is consistent with the brain size differences (Rushton and Rushton, 2003). (For instance, women need larger hips to give birth to larger brained children.) Furthermore, several studies have shown that mulattoes have an average brain size in between that of Blacks and Whites (Pearl, 1934; Bean, 1906). Finally, the Black-White brain size gap did not shrink in the 100 year period between 1880 and 1980 even though the Blacks and Whites converged in every conceivable measure of social inequality (Last, 2016E). Given all this, there is reason to think that genetically caused racial brain size differences play a role in racial intelligence differences.

Finally, the racial gap “looks” genetic based on how it changes over time, age, and geography. First, the Black-White-Asian IQ gap is seen all over the world.

Lynn (2006)

As mentioned earlier, the Black-White gap is also known to be present at age 3, and the Black-White IQ gap did not converge at all between 1920 and 1970 even though the social inequality between the races declined markedly between 1920 and 1970. This basic pattern of data is what we would expect if the underlying cause of the gap was genetic and makes explanations which appeal to environmental variables which impact people later in life, or are particular to a specific set of countries, unlikely.

In summary, there are many lines of evidence which converge on racial intelligence differences having a partially genetic cause. This doesn’t mean they are entirely caused by genes. They aren’t. But it does mean that genes are an important factor which we should not ignore.

Environmental Causes

To drive home the point that I am not proposing purely genetic explanation of racial intelligence differences, I’m going to briefly mention a two environmental factors which I do think are involved. This isn’t an exhaustive list, but it shows that I really don’t think racial IQ gaps are 100% heritable.

Child abuse has been shown to negatively impact IQ and, unfortunately, child abuse is more common among African Americans than it is among Whites. This accounts for a small proportion of the Black-White IQ gap in America. I’ve written about this in more detail here.

There is also good evidence that breastfeeding raises IQ and African Americans are less likely than White Americans to breastfeed. This too likely contributes to the Black-White IQ gap in America.

Of course, none of this negates, or is mutually exclusive with, the positive evidence for a partially genetic cause. Rather, the take away is that a complex mix of genes and the environment account for racial intelligence differences. Given the strength of the genetic evidence and the high heritability of IQ in the general population, I am inclined to think that racial intelligence differences are at least 50% heritable if not more so, but that still leaves room for plenty of other causes.

Conclusion

This article is meant as an introduction to the hereditarian case on race and IQ. A more comprehensive set of articles can be found here for those who require further evidence. If the case presented here was compelling to you, here is what I consider to be the key take away: racial inequalities are probably a permanent feature of society that we’ll have to learn to deal with and they aren’t anybody’s fault. If society can internalize that truth, we’ll have made real progress towards understanding ourselves as a species.
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2017/01/07/race-and-iq-the-case-for-genes/
 
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The problem with IQ tests is that they are not transferable between different continents and people. For example, if I make an analogy like "PROJECTOR : SCREEN :: LOTION : ???" and the answers are 1. Oil 2. Aloe 3. Carrot 4. Skin 5. None of the above, and I asked this question in America, I would expect to get a fair amount of correct answers. However, if you ask some Amazonian or Congo tribal warlord, he will just be like "Wtf is a projector? Wtf is a screen?" despite possibly having the potential for advanced cognitive abilities. They are simply irrelevant terms that probably don't even exist in their language.

For that reason, all IQ test statistics that compare one continent to another are bogus because there is no way to make a universal IQ test that fairly tests every person. Similarly, there is no way to adequately prove that two IQ tests are equal in their measurements - that, say, 100 on this test is the same thing as 100 on that test. Each IQ teabout the scored by an in-test forced bell curve. This means that even if the test was ridiculously easy or hard, then the average score would still be 100.

Let's also remember that IQ is a combination of both nature and nurture. A malnourished Ethiopian bloatbelly flymouth child could have had the genetic potential to be a genius, but because they missed every developmental milestone due to shit socioeconomic status, they are more valuable as a paperweight. And on top of this, the range within any population is always huge. The spread guarantees that there is at least one ethnic African that IQ mogs 99% of this forum.

A lot of people, especially on this forum, have no fucking idea what IQ is and keep spouting nonsense because certain "facts" about it fit their preconceived notions. Half of the shit that people cite in relation to IQ is pure quackery - bad science.

PS: "I didn't try so hard" is megacope. The whole point is that people who are truly smart wouldn't have to try all that hard to solve most of the problems in the firstplace.
I put that PS unironically because I damn sure did try the best I could and you have a point about the socioeconomic differences between each nation because some slang was used for a couple questions which can be taboo to people like how people in England call Fries Crisps. For the rest of what I read I need to do more research since I'm very ignorant about IQ Even if I understand the definition
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Sorry but what does that mean? And it doesn't matter if it's a decent size it's not like I'm going to use it lmao
 
Nah

Look at indians. In their home country they're retarded (84 or thereabouts). In the US they have the second highest IQ after ashkenazis and come before ricecels. Comes down to education.
Nah it's just the rich upper caste Indians making their way to the USA instead of shit-tier dalit subhumans.
The caste system literally enforced selective breeding on people, just like downward social mobility and higher fertility from an upper class that formed as such for a reason in feudal NW Europe raised the IQ there inside the Hajnal line.
 
Nah

Look at indians. In their home country they're retarded (84 or thereabouts). In the US they have the second highest IQ after ashkenazis and come before ricecels. Comes down to education.

Honestly, we in the west are getting the cream of the crop IQ wise among African and South Asian immigrants I think, western whites and east asians are generally higher IQ but there is a trade-off. Higher IQ populations are, on average, more beta. Usually have lower T levels and are often physically weaker (although T levels and fertility rates are, to some extent, more about class than race, poor people have higher fertility rates, but on a general level to some extent poverty does correlate to race in some instances, although there are rich and poor of all races)...

Also people can have a high IQ and be total idiots still, however, a person cannot have a low IQ and be smart.

Low IQ brackets usually foster a thug culture, think of blacks, many hispanics, even some slavic eastern europeans, south Asians, etc. High IQ brackets are pretty much western white folks and east asians.
 
Honestly, we in the west are getting the cream of the crop IQ wise among African and South Asian immigrants I think,
Idk about that. People dont usually immigrate to anothet country if they're well off in their own. Its usually the lower class poorcels that do.
 
im scared to take a legit IQ test
The problem with IQ tests is that they are not transferable between different continents and people. For example, if I make an analogy like "PROJECTOR : SCREEN :: LOTION : ???" and the answers are 1. Oil 2. Aloe 3. Carrot 4. Skin 5. None of the above, and I asked this question in America, I would expect to get a fair amount of correct answers. However, if you ask some Amazonian or Congo tribal warlord, he will just be like "Wtf is a projector? Wtf is a screen?" despite possibly having the potential for advanced cognitive abilities. They are simply irrelevant terms that probably don't even exist in their language.

For that reason, all IQ test statistics that compare one continent to another are bogus because there is no way to make a universal IQ test that fairly tests every person. Similarly, there is no way to adequately prove that two IQ tests are equal in their measurements - that, say, 100 on this test is the same thing as 100 on that test. Each IQ test is scored by an in-test forced bell curve. This means that even if the test was ridiculously easy or hard, then the average score would still be 100.

Let's also remember that IQ is a combination of both nature and nurture. A malnourished Ethiopian bloatbelly flymouth child could have had the genetic potential to be a genius, but because they missed every developmental milestone due to shit socioeconomic status, they are more valuable as a paperweight. And on top of this, the range within any population is always huge. The spread guarantees that there is at least one ethnic African that IQ mogs 99% of this forum.

A lot of people, especially on this forum, have no fucking idea what IQ is and keep spouting nonsense because certain "facts" about it fit their preconceived notions. Half of the shit that people cite in relation to IQ is pure quackery - bad science.

PS: "I didn't try so hard" is megacope. The whole point is that people who are truly smart wouldn't have to try all that hard to solve most of the problems in the first place.

its not about the iq tests not being universal, its about the africans being retarded lol, u think the iq test is not modified to be applicable to the africans? low iq post
 
Absolutely. IQ is determined by genetics and every race has similar genetics but different from other races.
 
Idk about that. People dont usually immigrate to anothet country if they're well off in their own. Its usually the lower class poorcels that do.

Yet, Nigerians immigrants in America are far higher IQ on average than native Nigerians, same could be said for curries. Fact is (even though it is a falling empire, it's early enough in the falling process people still believe in this myth of the American dream), you've got people from all over the world immigrating to America for more opportunities. Most of the Indian and Nigerian immigrants we get are educated.
 
Yet, Nigerians immigrants in America are far higher IQ on average than native Nigerians, same could be said for curries. Fact is (even though it is a falling empire, it's early enough in the falling process people still believe in this myth of the American dream), you've got people from all over the world immigrating to America for more opportunities. Most of the Indian and Nigerian immigrants we get are educated.
Yeah that would support the argument that IQ is largely shaped by environment
 
Not really because they were usually educated before they came to America. I've got an Indian gas station clerk up the road, who was a Doctor back in India but apparently his degree wasn't any good in America. His wife is a doctor and her degree is good here, she makes more than he does. They were both educated in India.
 
its not about the iq tests not being universal, its about the africans being retarded lol, u think the iq test is not modified to be applicable to the africans? low iq post
Classic. Reply but don't grasp concept, reassert extant biases with no added substance or foundation.

If we give an IQ test to people in the Congo and only people in the Congo, tailored for the people of the Congo, the average IQ in the Congo will be 100. You know what the average IQ is in America based on any IQ test that was tailored and administered to English-speaking Americans? 100. There does not exist a valid method for comparing a test that was designed specifically for people in the Congo to a test designed specifically for English-speaking Americans. There is no conversion standard. I already explained this but maybe this didn't get processed properly.
 
Classic. Reply but don't grasp concept, reassert extant biases with no added substance or foundation.

If we give an IQ test to people in the Congo and only people in the Congo, tailored for the people of the Congo, the average IQ in the Congo will be 100. You know what the average IQ is in America based on any IQ test that was tailored and administered to English-speaking Americans? 100. There does not exist a valid method for comparing a test that was designed specifically for people in the Congo to a test designed specifically for English-speaking Americans. There is no conversion standard. I already explained this but maybe this didn't get processed properly.


?? you just fucking translate the english test into the "congo" or whatever monkey language they speak there, and give the same exercises lol. how is there not a valid method? have you not ever taken an iq test? its just patterns, you dont need language besides first sentence which says "choose the most befitting answers"
 
?? you just fucking translate the english test into the "congo" or whatever monkey language they speak there, and give the same exercises lol. how is there not a valid method? have you not ever taken an iq test? its just patterns, you dont need language besides first sentence which says "choose the most befitting answers"
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Classic. Reply but don't grasp concept, reassert extant biases with no added substance or foundation.

If we give an IQ test to people in the Congo and only people in the Congo, tailored for the people of the Congo, the average IQ in the Congo will be 100. You know what the average IQ is in America based on any IQ test that was tailored and administered to English-speaking Americans? 100. There does not exist a valid method for comparing a test that was designed specifically for people in the Congo to a test designed specifically for English-speaking Americans. There is no conversion standard. I already explained this but maybe this didn't get processed properly.
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lol epic response with valid arguments! XD

actual lol when mods of this site are such retards, no wonder its gone down the shitter
There is no point arguing with an idiot that doesn't know anything. For one, pattern recognition IQ tests are just one of dozens of modules that are employed to measure intelligence. There are also studies that show that pattern recognition tests aren't universally applicable, but you don't care about any of that. You just wanna say dumb shit lol meme talk shit about mods. Arguing with you is like arguing with a toddler who just says "NUH UH!" on repeat.
 
That's retarded. I don't need to make an IQ test to know that I'm white.
 
Nah

Look at indians. In their home country they're retarded (84 or thereabouts). In the US they have the second highest IQ after ashkenazis and come before ricecels. Comes down to education.
that's because they only allow the smart indians into the usa
 
There is no point arguing with an idiot that doesn't know anything. For one, pattern recognition IQ tests are just one of dozens of modules that are employed to measure intelligence. There are also studies that show that pattern recognition tests aren't universally applicable, but you don't care about any of that. You just wanna say dumb shit lol meme talk shit about mods. Arguing with you is like arguing with a toddler who just says "NUH UH!" on repeat.


so instead of remaining to your argument about IQ tests not being universally applicable world wide (didnt manage to explain how they're not applicable and just insulted me instead), you suddenly changed your stance and started describing how IQ tests are just "one of the dozens of modules that are employed to measure intelligence", which is completely irrelevant because I wasn't talking about that. also, please link me the studies! i'm sure there is no political involvement in them, because implications about black people having lower iq on avg than whites! nope! XD

you realise using big words and writing long posts about nothing doesn't show that you're not an idiot? you seem pretty insecure in this regard, trying to dismiss everyone as "idiots" when they disagree with your long posts filled with disingenous bullshit
 
İt's also about education
 
IQ tests are an accurate measure of intelligence.

Blacks have the lowest IQ, the average african black IQ is 70. The average american black IQ is 85

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ, the average Ashkenazi Jew IQ is 115
 
IQ tests are an accurate measure of intelligence.

Blacks have the lowest IQ, the average african black IQ is 70. The average american black IQ is 85

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ, the average Ashkenazi Jew IQ is 115

i mean it's common sense but our mod @blickpall will argue that IQ tests are not valid because some jewish paid studies said so, to keep africans feeling racially secure about their own existence

wow gee wonder why all the developed countries are mostly consisting with people of white(ish) descent, probably not because they're genetiaclly predispositioned to have higher IQ! the congo people are probably more intelligent in their own ways, like drawing stickmen with titties and not being able to come up with the wheel, they just cannot be accurately measured by IQ tests!
 
so instead of remaining to your argument about IQ tests not being universally applicable world wide (didnt manage to explain how they're not applicable and just insulted me instead), you suddenly changed your stance and started describing how IQ tests are just "one of the dozens of modules that are employed to measure intelligence", which is completely irrelevant because I wasn't talking about that. also, please link me the studies! i'm sure there is no political involvement in them, because implications about black people having lower iq on avg than whites! nope! XD

you realise using big words and writing long posts about nothing doesn't show that you're not an idiot? you seem pretty insecure in this regard, trying to dismiss everyone as "idiots" when they disagree with your long posts filled with disingenous bullshit
You don't even understand the ideas you are responding to, that's why you are an idiot. The pattern recognition IQ test is just one module, one type of IQ test. There are many different kinds. I didn't change my stance at all, you just know too little about the subject to comprehend what is being said to you. Unlike you, I have actually read the studies, not some meme graphics pushed forward by people who have an archaic understanding of IQ tests.

If I was insecure, I'd continue this conversation because you accuse me of libtard bullshit. I would bring up studies for you to denounce as being funded by Jews, while your studies are obviously super legit and have no bias whatsoever. And you know what it would amount to? You continuing to write and convey messages on the intellectual equivalent of a 15 year old from the redneck South, who "just knows" he is superior in intellect to people of other races and rides the confirmation bias wave while interjecting lols into his posts. In other words, it won't amount to shit. There is not a single study I would show you that you wouldn't just brush off because it doesn't adhere to your world view or your paltry understanding of what IQ is and how it is measured. So, there is no point in continuing this discussion. Hence the facepalm gif. Feel free to keep shitting up the thread, being an idiot is not against the rules.
 
You don't even understand the ideas you are responding to, that's why you are an idiot. The pattern recognition IQ test is just one module, one type of IQ test. There are many different kinds. I didn't change my stance at all, you just know too little about the subject to comprehend what is being said to you. Unlike you, I have actually read the studies, not some meme graphics pushed forward by people who have an archaic understanding of IQ tests.

If I was insecure, I'd continue this conversation because you accuse me of libtard bullshit. I would bring up studies for you to denounce as being funded by Jews, while your studies are obviously super legit and have no bias whatsoever. And you know what it would amount to? You continuing to write and convey messages on the intellectual equivalent of a 15 year old from the redneck South, who "just knows" he is superior in intellect to people of other races and rides the confirmation bias wave while interjecting lols into his posts. In other words, it won't amount to shit. There is not a single study I would show you that you wouldn't just brush off because it doesn't adhere to your world view or your paltry understanding of what IQ is and how it is measured. So, there is no point in continuing this discussion. Hence the facepalm gif. Feel free to keep shitting up the thread, being an idiot is not against the rules.


>you don't know anything!! XD

>i could link the sudies, but i don't!

>i have stated that i will stop discussing with you 3 times already, but i continue to reply with long walls of text

lold
 
that's because they only allow the smart indians into the usa
Not the case in the UK where its full of the poorest lower class ethnics. Indians still get good grades.
 
Yes, just look at ethnics living in the west, despite living in optimal conditions to nurture their IQs they still act like low IQ monkeys.
 

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