Based r/MensRights: "Society is in Denial About the Problems Lonely Men Face"

[DarkStar]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1ikntvw/society_is_in_denial_about_the_problems_lonely/

Recently, there's been a few posts regarding the situation that lonely men find themselves in. While they do a good job of capturing snapshots of the lonely lives that many men inhabit, it's time to go a little deeper and look at the big picture.

Finally some nuance online, love to see it.

What happens to us when we're lonely for decades and decades?

Long-term analysis are usually the best

This post is written on the 10th anniversary of Wilkes McDermid's death. He was a successful Bloomberg financial consultant-turned-celebrity food writer.

So much for ": Hustle n' grind bro! Just find a passion/hobby sweetie!"

While his restaurant reviews were published in Britain's leading newspapers, he was better known for his steadfast generosity and kindness by all who knew him.

So not only is the "just be talented bro" bs lie debunked, but the ": Just be a good person!" narrative is also debunked

This guy was about as social-statusmaxxed as you could get for an Incel, yet look at his fate.

Wilkes was the kind of guy who would take a group of friends to London's top restaurants and pubs and bond over the fine food and drink before paying everyone's tab.

I wish I could be this kind of guy tbh; I would love to feel that connected & close with others in a platonic way to where I would do this.

Tragically, he left a blog post explaining his reasoning for leaving Earth. I remember reading this back in 2015, and as a short Asian guy myself, it hit way too close to home.

And when you look at his pics, you can see that even his smile is sad. You can see the grief in his eyes.

In any kind of family pic, this is sort of the expression I have & I'm sure many of you do also.

I'm gonna share the parts of his blog entry which I'm sure many of you can relate to.

"I have concluded that in the realm of dating and relationships the primary characteristics required for men are as follows.

• Height: above 5ft10
• Race: huge bias towards caucasian and black
• Wealth: or other manifestation of power

Quite blackpilled, I will say he is overstating the bias towards Whites & Blacks -though I do not deny us & blacks have advantages- since Sands can get foids of their own race+mudshark White women & Hispanics can get intra-racially if NT.

He also should have added in face alongside height for just "looks" or "appearance" in general.

You could say "oh, he didn't realize money is betabuxx, he didn't include face," but let's give him some credit here. The guy probably never once visited a blackpill website. Teaching himself that much of the bitter truth on his own is way more than most lonely men in denial do, let alone your average Joe.

I see why this guy had such a good career & was so respected now, he's more self-aware than 99% of people at the very least- he also made no mention of visiting a blackpill space or watching any content of it so he basically researched this himself.

"To everyone who says “why don’t you just accept it”, I ask you this. What if your girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband was taken away from you through no fault of your own? How would you feel? What if you were then told “it doesn’t matter, just learn to live with it”. Then what if you were told, “it’s your fault, it’s your personality that has caused that”and “stop being so negative”. How would you react. That’s what I’m faced with continuously. I can’t stop people lying to me for the rest of my life… but I can control how long my life will be and therefore how long I will have to suffer.

Holy based response.

I also like how he used their own strategy of using our talking points against us, yet used it on them; uno reverse card sheit right there.

Now, I'm sure many of us have been there mentally at least once, considering leaving the lobby. But the mistake he made was feeding gaslighters who in turn fed him bullshit and empty platitudes. He should've just joined the blackpill community instead and talked to people who go through what he did.

Sadly, he made the critical mistake of thinking normies would understand him or at least try to be reasonable & hear him out.

At the very least, we could've reassured him that not only are there disenfranchised men out there who suffer like him, but that, in a world where a full 59% of male university students are sexless, his situation is also becoming the norm.

This is the truth, but it's also a call to what we need to do more.

This guy could have found the blackpill community, realized he was right & that there's plenty like him whom he can commiserate his misery with.

I'm pretty sure this guy roped a long time ago when the blackpill/incelsphere was very fringe & niche- it is nice to see though that there have always been those aware of the truth of foid nature.

 

[blackpillednigga]

mensrights is fine but they never actually delved deep on what the REAL problem men are facing is, so I was never a fan of it

 

[Notkev]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1ikntvw/society_is_in_denial_about_the_problems_lonely/



Finally some nuance online, love to see it.


Long-term analysis are usually the best


So much for ": Hustle n' grind bro! Just find a passion/hobby sweetie!"


So not only is the "just be talented bro" bs lie debunked, but the ": Just be a good person!" narrative is also debunked

This guy was about as social-statusmaxxed as you could get for an Incel, yet look at his fate.

I wish I could be this kind of guy tbh; I would love to feel that connected & close with others in a platonic way to where I would do this.



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In any kind of family pic, this is sort of the expression I have & I'm sure many of you do also.


Quite blackpilled, I will say he is overstating the bias towards Whites & Blacks -though I do not deny us & blacks have advantages- since Sands can get foids of their own race+mudshark White women & Hispanics can get intra-racially if NT.

He also should have added in face alongside height for just "looks" or "appearance" in general.

I see why this guy had such a good career & was so respected now, he's more self-aware than 99% of people at the very least- he also made no mention of visiting a blackpill space or watching any content of it so he basically researched this himself.


Holy based response.

I also like how he used their own strategy of using our talking points against us, yet used it on them; uno reverse card sheit right there.

Sadly, he made the critical mistake of thinking normies would understand him or at least try to be reasonable & hear him out.

This is the truth, but it's also a call to what we need to do more.

This guy could have found the blackpill community, realized he was right & that there's plenty like him whom he can commiserate his misery with.

I'm pretty sure this guy roped a long time ago when the blackpill/incelsphere was very fringe & niche- it is nice to see though that there have always been those aware of the truth of foid nature.

Great post tbh

 

[Pancakecel]

I'm surprised soyddit hasn't banned that sub yet

 

[caineturbat2003]

mensrights is fine but they never actually delved deep on what the REAL problem men are facing is, so I was never a fan of it

If they dove deeper they would get shut down pretty quickly and the media would demonise the movement to oblivion.

 

[universallyabhorres]

mensrights is fine but they never actually delved deep on what the REAL problem men are facing is, so I was never a fan of it

I feel the problems are feminism, women's rights, sexual revolution, women in the workplace and hiring, increasing male lookism, a lack of male community. Sometimes I think we need to go back to the 1800s, I believe back then even ugly men had wives and they were kings of their household. But I might be wrong, either way there's no solution now.

 

[Wumbus]

read every word

 

[blackpillednigga]

I feel the problems are feminism, women's rights, sexual revolution, women in the workplace and hiring, increasing male lookism, a lack of male community. Sometimes I think we need to go back to the 1800s, I believe back then even ugly men had wives and they were kings of their household. But I might be wrong, either way there's no solution now.

we dont need a return to tradition. then women would just use us as ATM banks. I have a much better alternative solution but Id rather keep silent about it now and reveal when I have it completely figured out

 

[Notkev]

mensrights is fine but they never actually delved deep on what the REAL problem men are facing is, so I was never a fan of it

They would risk being called incels.

 

[blackpillednigga]

If they dove deeper they would get shut down pretty quickly and the media would demonise the movement to oblivion.

They would risk being called incels.

I mean it already gets demonized to oblivion so might as well go all in

 

[caineturbat2003]

I mean it already gets demonized to oblivion so might as well go all in

True, sadly they affiliated themselves with redpill copers and cuckservatives, so they won't start to call (((them))) out anytime soon.

 

[Grodd]

I'm surprised soyddit hasn't banned that sub yet

 

[caineturbat2003]

I'm surprised soyddit hasn't banned that sub yet

Yes, it's quite a miracle, honestly.

 

[Devoteecel]

r/MensRights is a cucked sub. Every time there is a foid who says "i fEeL bAd fOr yOu mEn", these are foids who just want attention, and the men in that sub simp for these foids who are just there karma farming and trying to get men into supporting feminism. There are also faggots in that sub who talk about LGBTQ+ shit, and how faggot men suffer, they wouldn't suffer if they weren't faggots. And a lot of the men there are fucking pajeets who make a lot of posts about India, like there was this Atul guy who died, and everyone was feeling sorry about a pajeet guy dying. A lot of people there are also libtards who participate in r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates which is a woke sub pretending to care for men.

 

[Devoteecel]

These fucking libtard MRAs have larped into that sub and want white men to be Democrats. The truth is that men need to be misogynists and foids' rights have to be taken away. We also have to be racists to stop the niggers, the shitskins and illegals.

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1il98dv/how_do_democrats_win_back_white_men/

 

[Devoteecel]

mensrights is fine but they never actually delved deep on what the REAL problem men are facing is, so I was never a fan of it

They never ever talk about who is the main cause of these problems men face. Yes, feminism is causing problems for men and MRAs obviously acknowledge that, and in order to solve that men need to be misogynists, but people on that sub hate misogyny because they are cucks who simp for foids. MRAs also fail to acknowledge that the kikes are responsible for feminism, but if you dare to say something about the kikes, you'll get downvoted because they don't like antisemites aka people who expose the truth about kikes.

 

[udeactive]

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Society at this point is not worth our attention, they hated on us since the day 1 so i just give them the same indiference back, for me is just doing the minimun and only spending my money on pleasure things and investing, i dont care about them.

 

[CHOoseWisely123]

These fucking libtard MRAs have larped into that sub and want white men to be Democrats. The truth is that men need to be misogynists and foids' rights have to be taken away. We also have to be racists to stop the niggers, the shitskins and illegals.

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1il98dv/how_do_democrats_win_back_white_men/

I hate it when people play devils advocate and advocate for the enemy

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

Society is not in denial, it's purposely ignoring it because the problems of lonely men are not in their interests. There is a surplus of men both for sex and work. And if society doesn't care about someone, it means that he is not part of it. Low-value men (sub5, non-NT and/or low IQ) are all being pushed to NEETdom or suicide.

You heard that right, excess men are being pushed out of society.

There is no denial nor ignorance. Why do you expect any action to be taken? Ultimately everyone works for their own interests, even when they cooperate in a society. We are not anyone's interest other than our own, obviously nothing will get done. For all they care we could all go die in the woods and nothing would change, only a negligible minority goes ER.

 

[VλREN]

it’s 2012 all over again

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

Imagine paying for everyone, being well-respected, and still being invisible to foids. It’s obvious at this point that none of that matters if you don’t meet the looks threshold.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

Society is not in denial, it's purposely ignoring it because the problems of lonely men are not in their interests. There is a surplus of men both for sex and work. And if society doesn't care about someone, it means that he is not part of it. Low-value men (sub5, non-NT and/or low IQ) are all being pushed to NEETdom or suicide.

You heard that right, excess men are being pushed out of society.

There is no denial nor ignorance. Why do you expect any action to be taken? Ultimately everyone works for their own interests, even when they cooperate in a society. We are not anyone's interest other than our own, obviously nothing will get done. For all they care we could all go die in the woods and nothing would change, only a negligible minority goes ER.

The thing is, pushing millions of men into isolation and pretending nothing is wrong may work in the short-term. But they’ve overplayed their hand—at some point, something has to give.

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

The thing is, pushing millions of men into isolation and pretending nothing is wrong may work in the short-term. But they’ve overplayed their hand—at some point, something has to give.

And since when have humans thought about the long term? Society will collapse some day, if not for this reason for something else, I mean look at it: nuclear weapons, pollution, global warming, overpopulation, and now even the sexual selection that foids operate on more violent and dumber men that could lead to idiocracy. Any of these could destroy us in the long run. Humanity was a mistake.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

And since when have humans thought about the long term? Society will collapse some day, if not for this reason for something else, I mean look at it: nuclear weapons, pollution, global warming, overpopulation, and now even the sexual selection that foids operate on more violent and dumber men that could lead to idiocracy. Any of these could destroy us in the long run. Humanity was a mistake.

 

[daydreamER]

This post of yours made me remember Incel TVs video on him, and I decided to watch it again just now. THIS POST IS AN ALMOST WORD FOR WORD TRANSCRIPTION OF THAT VIDEO.

View: https://archive.org/details/incel-tv/Wilkes+McDermid.mp4


Can someone with a reddit account call him out on this? I mean sure the channel is gone now but he shouldn't pass off this post as his own. I guess he wants to forward the message without using the "incel" title.

 

[My Name Jeff]

r/mensright is actually a good sub. one of like 3 on reddit.

 

[DarkStar]

mensrights is fine but they never actually delved deep on what the REAL problem men are facing is, so I was never a fan of it

I mean, at least they share stuff such as this

We're fighting probably the most uphill battle of all time, what other options do we have?

If they dove deeper they would get shut down pretty quickly and the media would demonise the movement to oblivion.

It's best these guys sort of stay on the fringe of inceldom and never fully embrace it, since that means they still can serve as a gateway to us.

r/MensRights is a cucked sub. Every time there is a foid who says "i fEeL bAd fOr yOu mEn", these are foids who just want attention, and the men in that sub simp for these foids who are just there karma farming and trying to get men into supporting feminism. There are also faggots in that sub who talk about LGBTQ+ shit, and how faggot men suffer, they wouldn't suffer if they weren't faggots. And a lot of the men there are fucking pajeets who make a lot of posts about India, like there was this Atul guy who died, and everyone was feeling sorry about a pajeet guy dying. A lot of people there are also libtards who participate in r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates which is a woke sub pretending to care for men.

I agree with what you said

I hate how these guys will sell-out to a foid who just says "omg I'm so sorry you guys have it hard" which is clearly her trying to subvert or attention-farm on Reddit.

I hate how faggots try to subvert & co-opt things, since they are a protected class who have it only slightly worse than foids.

I also hate how they make it a racial SJW-tier thing, yet if I made any kind of "pro white" post bitching about DEI I'd get shit on

Imagine paying for everyone, being well-respected, and still being invisible to foids. It’s obvious at this point that none of that matters if you don’t meet the looks threshold.

His case is the ultimate, field-test of the blackpill

He was intelligent, well-respected, had tons of friends, and was generous yet not even some chubby noodle becky wanted him.

 

[blackpillednigga]

I mean, at least they share stuff such as this

We're fighting probably the most uphill battle of all time, what other options do we have?

ill admit I never read that thread until now. and yeah pretty based compared to what they usually post

 

[DarkStar]

ill admit I never read that thread until now. and yeah pretty based compared to what they usually post

There's a few bangers on there

 

[caineturbat2003]

It's best these guys sort of stay on the fringe of inceldom and never fully embrace it, since that means they still can serve as a gateway to us.

It's a 50/50 chance to join our ranks, honestly. Redpillers and cuckservatives behave the same way as bluepillers and libshits when it comes to actual right wingers, the alt-right and incels. They would demonize us to discourage their own members to even consider to adopt some of our ideas. Some cuckies are even pro-feminist with the exception of third and fourth wave feminism, jfl

But I guess at the same time they could serve as a gateway to us, most of us started as some redpilled conservatives until reality hit us in the face when our allies were just as cucked as leftists.

 

[XtremeMax]

I'm surprised soyddit hasn't banned that sub yet

 

[Autistic Uggo]

This guy could have found the blackpill community, realized he was right & that there's plenty like him whom he can commiserate his misery with.

I'm pretty sure this guy roped a long time ago when the blackpill/incelsphere was very fringe & niche- it is nice to see though that there have always been those aware of the truth of foid nature.

Wilkes might still be alive if he had access to communities like this. We would have reaffirmed his experiences and related with him. He would have felt less lonely knowing that there are plenty of other men stuck in his situation.

That alone justifies the existence of forums like this. They aren't going to improve our situation by removing our access to them; they are just going to further isolate us. But the cynic in me suspects that's the plan.