Experiment Question about sex robots and transhumanism

[Robo Sapien]

I just want people to comment if they're open to the idea of sex robots and transhumanism, or if they think this is cope. If you're in favor tell me why. If you're not tell me why. I just want to see the dynamics of the forum. Thanks for your participation.

 

[TrueAlphaMale]

It's al cope and a pathetic attempt to devalue women.

 

[Robo Sapien]

It's al cope and a pathetic attempt to devalue women.

After all women have done to you they still have value to you? Interesting.

 

[Asianmanletcel]

good cope tbh

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Cope.

Won't happen in our lifetime, or at the very least won't happen before we're very old men.

 

[Weightcel]

It's al cope and a pathetic attempt to devalue women.

Why would you care about "devaluing women" if they've already devalued you for being an ugly male with shit genetics?

Yeah OP, the only way to cure inceldom would be to change our innate biology, so transhumanism would be the only way. We won't get to that point any time soon though.

 

[Hoffman_13]

sex robots would work wonders for a lot of men out there but we'll either be old or dead before it happens

 

[Modus Coperandi]

When I was younger my plan was to be frozen alive until some nerdcel discovers mind upload. (not sure if that counts as transhumanism)
Now I just accepted I will die alone anyway.

 

[thePhantom]

Big transhumanism fan in general, and there are some interesting opportunities for incels, though in the foreseeable future mostly for money-/surgerymaxing etc. Long term, fully immersive VR is a possible actual solution to many problems. Short term, however, sex robots and the like is just a bad cope. They won't bring you the full GF experience, and in particular there is no real validation. If you are just looking for sex in the the very mechanical sense, escortcelling is already available and way better thasn robots will be anytime soon.

 

[TrueAlphaMale]

After all women have done to you they still have value to you? Interesting.

Women have infinite sexual value

Why would you care about "devaluing women" if they've already devalued you for being an ugly male with shit genetics?

Yeah OP, the only way to cure inceldom would be to change our innate biology, so transhumanism would be the only way. We won't get to that point any time soon though.

The only way to change is inceldom is to change the female gender

 

[Robo Sapien]

The only way to change is inceldom is to change the female gender

That's one of the many goals of transhumanism.

 

[CaptainCuck]

I find the idea of sex robots interesting.

However what they will offer is what escorts pretty much offer now but with more convenience and less costs (or more depending on maintenance). Plus it's not real pussy.

 

[Robo Sapien]

I find the idea of sex robots interesting.

However what they will offer is what escorts pretty much offer now but with more convenience and less costs (or more depending on maintenance). Plus it's not real pussy.

The STD's also aren't real too. Keep that in mind.

 

[CaptainCuck]

The STD's also aren't real too. Keep that in mind.

Are you referring to the fact that the rate at which it's possible to contract STDs from escorts is much lower than people believe? If so, I am aware of that, especially with all the sluts whoring themselves on Tinder etc nowadays.

I am actually in favor of escorting. I was more trying to determine what the sex robots could offer us in the future that we couldn't get now.

 

[TrueAlphaMale]

That's one of the many goals of transhumanism.

Patriarchy is the answe

 

[Robo Sapien]

Patriarchy is the answe

We've tried this solution dozens of times. It does not work. Men submit women. Women use men by proxy via sex to get their rights back. It's a never ending cycle. Patriarchy is the answer, but we need a permanent solution. JFL @ guys who value their "humanity" over their happiness.

 

[TrueAlphaMale]

We've tried this solution dozens of times. It does not work. Men submit women. Women use men by proxy via sex to get their rights back. It's a never ending cycle. Patriarchy is the answer, but we need a permanent solution. JFL @ guys who value their "humanity" over their happiness.

Wrong, it was the jews wining ww2 that destroyed sexual balance

 

[Potbellypos]

Women are unnecessary. I just started using Fleshlights last year. The difference between masturbating with your hand and masturbating with a fleshlight is insane. Then I started experimenting with different lubes that cause different sensations. I bought a Fleshlight Launch auto-masturbator, I've played multiple room-scale VR porn games, and I bought a sex doll. My VR room is 15'x15' and I'm thinking about using the 30'x30' garage when the wireless VIVE adapter comes out in a few months with the long range lighthouses. Real women have no use anymore.

 

[Robo Sapien]

Women are unnecessary. I just started using Fleshlights last year. The difference between masturbating with your hand and masturbating with a fleshlight is insane. Then I started experimenting with different lubes that cause different sensations. I bought a Fleshlight Launch auto-masturbator, I've played multiple room-scale VR porn games, and I bought a sex doll. My VR room is 15'x15' and I'm thinking about using the 30'x30' garage when the wireless VIVE adapter comes out in a few months with the long range lighthouses. Real women have no use anymore.

A man who gets it.

Wrong, it was the jews wining ww2 that destroyed sexual balance

JFL. No accountability for the people who actually fucked up your life. White whores and cucks. Just keep blaming Jews boyo. Instead of the people actually most responsible.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

I've been pro-transhumanism since I've known about it (like 2007).

While I think technologies that could completely cure inceldom are possible (sentient AI, fully immersive vr, etc.) I'm starting to doubt they'll be commercially available within my lifetime.

 

[Mik_TFL]

They'll come, in time, probably decades though. It'll start with ever increasing better sex dolls and virtual reality, the AI will progress very fast, and the VR graphics will be there to match it. Robotics will take longer, not because it isn't possible, but because it is expensive. I'd be surprised if there aren't some high end sex robots able to give a proper fuck better than anything a human could do within 20 years in some laboratory

 

[Robo Sapien]

I've been pro-transhumanism since I've known about it (like 2007).

While I think technologies that could completely cure inceldom are possible (sentient AI, fully immersive vr, etc.) I'm starting to doubt they'll be commercially available within my lifetime.

I think there will be some powerfully good stuff, but I partially agree with the sentiment on AI. But I think guys will appreciate the fact of not having to move around an 80lbs doll every time they want to fuck it. I think that's the largest push in AI right now. Just practical stuff like moving around during sex and cleaning the owner's house while they're gone.

 

[NEETAndTidy]

I've been for it since I heard of it

 

[Robo Sapien]

They'll come, in time, probably decades though. It'll start with ever increasing better sex dolls and virtual reality, the AI will progress very fast, and the VR graphics will be there to match it. Robotics will take longer, not because it isn't possible, but because it is expensive. I'd be surprised if there aren't some high end sex robots able to give a proper fuck better than anything a human could do within 20 years in some laboratory

There are reasons why robotics is prohibitively expensive. I'm hoping that advancements in industrial and commercial robotics bring out advances for sexual robotics.

 

[Mik_TFL]

There are reasons why robotics is prohibitively expensive. I'm hoping that advancements in industrial and commercial robotics bring out advances for sexual robotics.

I literally work in robotics, the real problem is the amount of degrees of freedom that humanoid robots require, the other problem is that the kind of actuators used in industrial and commercial applications are not really well fitted for sex robots. I doubt they'll ever be cheaper than 30k€, that being said, I'd gladly save 30k to buy one

 

[Robo Sapien]

I literally work in robotics, the real problem is the amount of degrees of freedom that humanoid robots require, the other problem is that the kind of actuators used in industrial and commercial applications are not really well fitted for sex robots. I doubt they'll ever be cheaper than 30k€, that being said, I'd gladly save 30k to buy one

What is prohibiting the degrees of freedom? I'm very interested.

And 30k for a realistic sex robot is not bad. I thought it'd be much more expensive than that tbh. I understand that most incels will not be able to afford, but for richcels and stemcels that isn't bad at all. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Mik_TFL]

The Human Body has 244 Degree Of Freedom, even though you don't need that many to make a sex robot work, the problem is that using electric motors with any kind of rigid gearing mechanisms will cause the robot the break when in a collision, then with that many motors you start getting into cooling problems and power delivery problems. The current problem is that working with elastic body parts is incredibly difficult (computationally speaking) but making rigid joints behave like elastic ones requires expensive hardware (high resolution rotary encoders, inertial measurement units, etc)

 

[Robo Sapien]

The Human Body has 244 Degree Of Freedom, even though you don't need that many to make a sex robot work, the problem is that using electric motors with any kind of rigid gearing mechanisms will cause the robot the break when in a collision, then with that many motors you start getting into cooling problems and power delivery problems. The current problem is that working with elastic body parts is incredibly difficult (computationally speaking) but making rigid joints behave like elastic ones requires expensive hardware (high resolution rotary encoders, inertial measurement units, etc)

Cool shit. Why is it hard to work with elastic body parts? JW

 

[Mik_TFL]

What is prohibiting the degrees of freedom? I'm very interested.

And 30k for a realistic sex robot is not bad. I thought it'd be much more expensive than that tbh. I understand that most incels will not be able to afford, but for richcels and stemcels that isn't bad at all. Thanks for the heads up.

These are the kinds of actuators I'm talking about:

Cool shit. Why is it hard to work with elastic body parts? JW

Because elastic bodies have infinite degrees of freedom, the math used to calculate kinematics and dynamics becomes numerical instead of analytical which results in much more computational power needed, at least 3 orders of magnitude more.

 

[Robo Sapien]

These are the kinds of actuators I'm talking about:


Because elastic bodies have infinite degrees of freedom, the math used to calculate kinematics and dynamics becomes numerical instead of analytical which results in much more computational power needed, at least 3 orders of magnitude more.

Yeah, those things look ultra stiff. And they look like they can rip the meat off of a dick. Not a good selling point tbh tbh.

That being said. I still have a question regarding the below.

Cool shit. Why is it hard to work with elastic body parts? JW

Why is it hard to computationally work with elastic body parts? thanks in advance

 

[Mik_TFL]

Because elastic bodies have infinite degrees of freedom, the math used to calculate kinematics and dynamics becomes numerical instead of analytical which results in much more computational power needed, at least 3 orders of magnitude more.

sorry about that. Didn't catch that. They can't reduce the degrees of freedom to make it more analytical? I know i'm asking a lot of questions. I'm just very fascinated by this kind of stuff.

You can't really reduce it from infinite, either you take elasticity into account or you don't. I can tell you the kind of work I'm trying to do with respect to sex robots, you might find it interesting , just give me 1 min , need to get my laptop for that.

 

[Robo Sapien]

Because elastic bodies have infinite degrees of freedom, the math used to calculate kinematics and dynamics becomes numerical instead of analytical which results in much more computational power needed, at least 3 orders of magnitude more.

Sorry about that. Didn't catch that. Thanks.

 

[gstvtrp]

I've been pro-transhumanism since I've known about it (like 2007).

While I think technologies that could completely cure inceldom are possible (sentient AI, fully immersive vr, etc.) I'm starting to doubt they'll be commercially available within my lifetime.

We might live to more that 80 or whatever. If you can make it to 80, you might be able to make to 150, then 200, then 2000.

For all we know, this period of our lives is a tiny blip and will be a long forgotten memory. You could be fucking 11/10 sex androids (or even something like clones) in your lifetime if you can wait it out.

They'll come, in time, probably decades though. It'll start with ever increasing better sex dolls and virtual reality, the AI will progress very fast, and the VR graphics will be there to match it. Robotics will take longer, not because it isn't possible, but because it is expensive. I'd be surprised if there aren't some high end sex robots able to give a proper fuck better than anything a human could do within 20 years in some laboratory

I think we are going to have "interactive porn" within 8 years. Like private camshows with camgirls except it's an AI. And it will look realistic as fuck because the rendering is going to be done by Path Tracing + Neural Network infill. A NN model will control body and voice of the agent.

 

[gstvtrp]

The Human Body has 244 Degree Of Freedom, even though you don't need that many to make a sex robot work, the problem is that using electric motors with any kind of rigid gearing mechanisms will cause the robot the break when in a collision, then with that many motors you start getting into cooling problems and power delivery problems. The current problem is that working with elastic body parts is incredibly difficult (computationally speaking) but making rigid joints behave like elastic ones requires expensive hardware (high resolution rotary encoders, inertial measurement units, etc)

How about elastic actuators like this:





We clearly need some type of thin, modular elastic actuator that can be bundled.
They have similar properties to human muscles, except they expand instead of contract. It's going to happen man.

Another option is using bioengineering and using actual biological muscles in computer controlled robots.

 

[Mik_TFL]

Ok, what I'm trying to do is to use this library that tracks human motions from cameras:
https://github.com/CMU-Perceptual-Computing-Lab/openpose
And the use it to get data from some couple thousands of porn videos in order to train a neural network to predict the next actions of the pornstars based on the previous motions within the video, this will make it so that the AI will lean to behave like pornstars. The the idea is to get this AI into a VR porn game, (probably some other one that already exists)

 

[Anger]

Sex robots are my final hope tbh

 

[Mik_TFL]

How about elastic actuators like this:





We clearly need some type of thin, modular elastic actuator that can be bundled.
They have similar properties to human muscles, except they expand instead of contract. It's going to happen man.

Another option is using bioengineering and using actual biological muscles in computer controlled robots.

I've seen those, they are not precise enough for robotic applications, they might be enough for some parts of sex robots though,
and biological muscles are waaay far out in the future

 

[gstvtrp]

Ok, what I'm trying to do is to use this library that tracks human motions from cameras:
https://github.com/CMU-Perceptual-Computing-Lab/openpose
And the use it to get data from some couple thousands of porn videos in order to train a neural network to predict the next actions of the pornstars based on the previous motions within the video, this will make it so that the AI will lean to behave like pornstars. The the idea is to get this AI into a VR porn game, (probably some other one that already exists)

You can also you camshows and training data.

 

[ArtoriasWolf]

Well it is a cope, just like everything is, but it's the best cope.

 

[Mik_TFL]

Well it is a cope, just like everything is, but it's the best cope.

To be sincere I think lucid dreaming is by far the ultimate cope, All incels should try it, it is the best solution I know to deal with inceldom by far.

You can also you camshows and training data.

There are enough videos on pornhub to train the data, and the best thing is that a lot of them are labeled with timestamps of what happens in the video. I"m going to create the sluttiest AI this world has ever seen.

 

[Robo Sapien]

There are enough videos on pornhub to train the data, and the best thing is that a lot of them are labeled with timestamps of what happens in the video. I"m going to create the sluttiest AI this world has ever seen.

That a boy.

Sex robots are my final hope tbh

good hope to have too.