Welcome to Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate Forum

Welcome! This is a forum for involuntary celibates: people who lack a significant other. Are you lonely and wish you had someone in your life? You're not alone! Join our forum and talk to people just like you.

Pseudo-intellectual attempts to dissect incels through an obstinate and isolated application of Hegel's PhG

  • Thread starter RodgersSecondAdvent
  • Start date
RodgersSecondAdvent

RodgersSecondAdvent

Banned
-
Joined
Nov 8, 2017
Posts
642
PhG = Phenomenology of the Spirit/Phänomenologie des Geistes




This nigger presupposes that incels lack a self-consciousness because we don't recognize ourselves in women and that this thus servers as the basis to explain our disdain for women. For Hegel, self-consciousness means being aware that another person is aware of himself. So you're only self-conscious when you see yourself through the eyes of someone else. In a way, becoming self-conscious is a task. In the video he euphemizes this insinuation (incels not being self-conscious) as incels not being able to develop themselves as a person or whatever.

In his shitty video, he tries to bring forth an explanation of Hegel's extremely abstract phenomenology of the spirit through which he "analyses" the incel psyche. Incels are presented as brutes with the desire to fully express and impose a will constituting of not being interfered or controlled(complete freedom) but women act as an obstacle to satisfying this will because they refuse us due to our low SMV(Looks/Money/Status). In order for incels to exercise their will, they must brutalize women and assert themselves as their master analogous to Hegel's master/slave dialectic and this demands absolute submission from the woman. According to Hegel this creates a contradiction because the woman's(substitute for the slave in Hegel's master/slave dialectic) absolute submission means an acknowledgement(or recognition) towards the master and this is completely undesirable for the master because this sort of relation will lead to the master's dependence on the slave in the long term which goes against his will, so in order to realize actual freedom the master needs to recognize the slave. The slave who is in fact on a path to liberation by deriving satisfaction from labor and understanding of his world while the master becomes evermore useless so the situation kind of reverses at the end with the master ending up as a loser who was in fact the loser from the very beginning.

So the solution is mutual recognition for if either wish to be as free as possible. Only then have you achieved self-consciousness.

Of course, you can just say you disagree with Hegel and the whole video's moot because it only targets those who go along with Hegel's philosophy.

However, I see women as soulless creatures who's metaphysical reality rivals that of plants and animals incapable of self-realisation or manipulating one's surrounding world through means of creativity and ingenuity to echo Otto Weininger, which renders the last stage of the master's total dependence on the slave impossible. I believe Hegel thought of women as moronic, illogical and uncreative creatures as well so this whole master/slave dialectic can only apply to men.

But this critique of mine is only minor and I may be even wrong or have misunderstood some aspects because I've given Hegel's PhG only a quick glance. Here's someone on 4chan's /lit/ who articulates himself better than I ever could on calling him out for the pseudo-intellectual who panders to other brainlets who desperately wank to anything that pushes their narrative how it's always completely the fault of incels.

Lit high iq


source: https://warosu.org/lit/thread/11520434#p11521014
 
Last edited:
Good way to market your shitty video tbh.
 
Is he basically saying that Incels exist because we desire validation from women but dont regard women as equals and therefore cant be validated? If adopting Hegels view, then he ignores that incels dont have the same ability to socialize as normies and Chad's do due to SMV and LMS. So from the beginning of an Incels life, he is deprived the ability to self actualize because of the discrimination he receives from others. Wonder why he ignored that?
 
Is he basically saying that Incels exist because we desire validation from women but dont regard women as equals and therefore cant be validated? If adopting Hegels view, then he ignores that incels dont have the same ability to socialize as normies and Chad's do due to SMV and LMS. So from the beginning of an Incels life, he is deprived the ability to self actualize because of the discrimination he receives from others. Wonder why he ignored that?

Because he needs to push a narrative and appease to his brainlet liberal audience, the filthy pig. The image I've shared at the end of my post gives the same criticism.
 
Because he needs to push a narrative and appease to his brainlet liberal audience, the filthy pig. The image I've shared at the end of my post gives the same criticism.
I had read the image, and wanted to make sure I understood. I have never read Hegel before.
 
I had read the image, and wanted to make sure I understood. I have never read Hegel before.

He's had an influence but almost nobody really agrees with him. Most of his ideology when adapted by other philosophers, is heavily modified.

To quote Schopenhauer on Hegel:

"Hegel, installed from above, by the powers that be, as the certified Great Philosopher, was a flat-headed, insipid, nauseating, illiterate charlatan, who reached the pinnacle of audacity in scribbling together and dishing up the craziest mystifying nonsense. This nonsense has been noisily proclaimed as immortal wisdom by mercenary followers and readily accepted as such by all fools, who thus joined into as perfect a chorus of admiration as had ever been heard before. The extensive field of spiritual influence with which Hegel was furnished by those in power has enabled him to achieve the intellectual corruption of a whole generation."
 
A
PhG = Phenomenology of the Spirit/Phänomenologie des Geistes




This nigger presupposes that incels lack a self-consciousness because we don't recognize ourselves in women and that this thus servers as the basis to explain our disdain for women. For Hegel, self-consciousness means being aware that another person is aware of himself. So you're only self-conscious when you see yourself through the eyes of someone else. In a way, becoming self-conscious is a task. In the video he euphemizes this insinuation (incels not being self-conscious) as incels not being able to develop themselves as a person or whatever.

In his shitty video, he tries to bring forth an explanation of Hegel's extremely abstract phenomenology of the spirit through which he "analyses" the incel psyche. Incels are presented as brutes with the desire to fully express and impose a will constituting of not being interfered or controlled(complete freedom) but women act as an obstacle to satisfying this will because they refuse us due to our low SMV(Looks/Money/Status). In order for incels to exercise their will, they must brutalize women and assert themselves as their master analogous to Hegel's master/slave dialectic and this demands absolute submission from the woman. According to Hegel this creates a contradiction because the woman's(substitute for the slave in Hegel's master/slave dialectic) absolute submission means an acknowledgement(or recognition) towards the master and this is completely undesirable for the master because this sort of relation will lead to the master's dependence on the slave in the long term which goes against his will, so in order to realize actual freedom the master needs to recognize the slave. The slave who is in fact on a path to liberation by deriving satisfaction from labor and understanding of his world while the master becomes evermore useless so the situation kind of reverses at the end with the master ending up as a loser who was in fact the loser from the very beginning.

So the solution is mutual recognition for if either wish to be as free as possible. Only then have you achieved self-consciousness.

Of course, you can just say you disagree with Hegel and the whole video's moot because it only targets those who go along with Hegel's philosophy.

However, I see women as soulless creatures who's metaphysical reality rivals that of plants and animals incapable of self-realisation or manipulating one's surrounding world through means of creativity and ingenuity to echo Otto Weininger, which renders the last stage of the master's total dependence on the slave impossible. I believe Hegel thought of women as moronic, illogical and uncreative creatures as well so this whole master/slave dialectic can only apply to men.

But this critique of mine is only minor and I may be even wrong or have misunderstood some aspects because I've given Hegel's PhG only a quick glance. Here's someone on 4chan's /lit/ who articulates himself better than I ever could on calling him out for the pseudo-intellectual who panders to other brainlets who desperately wank to anything that pushes their narrative how it's always completely the fault of incels.

View attachment 30657

source: https://warosu.org/lit/thread/11520434#p11521014

An excellent rebuttal, king. Seeing that video in my recommendations is what inspired me to make an account here, even though I've known about this place for a bit. It was obvious that one is in for a bad explication as soon as you hear him say, 'misogynist.' Imagine trying to use 'cuck' in a reclamation sense. I just can't understand how someone could go and try to read Hegel then turn around and offer characterizations of social phenomena that you could pull straight from Buzzfeed or some other shitty 'media aggregator.'
 

Similar threads

I
Replies
7
Views
213
Doesitmatter?
D
Nordicel94
Replies
21
Views
755
coreacheeka
C
AutistSupremacist
Replies
0
Views
229
AutistSupremacist
AutistSupremacist
CrackingYs
Replies
2
Views
217
Starfish Vs Koala
Starfish Vs Koala
jasonsingh40
Replies
40
Views
1K
TedKacynski271828
TedKacynski271828

Users who are viewing this thread

shape1
shape2
shape3
shape4
shape5
shape6
Back
Top