if you want to do something that involves taking a risk, you'd consider yourselves pretty brave to actually do it wouldn't you?
I see bravery as an intellectual progression where one assesses risk and chooses to confront it for the choice to pursue a potential reward.
I can't really explain it, mostly because I'm tired and can't think straight, but doing something without knowing the exact outcome of that action is pretty courageous.
Like "I'm going to choose to let a random spider I found in the backyard bite me in case it gives me superpowers"
If it's actual fucking stupidity then I'm not going to acknowledge it as bravery.
If you do certain obviously stupid shit then you're actually not processing your fear as an intelligent person, and thus acting in the absence of that fear does not qualify as bravery.
I don't know what's gonna happened if I die and I don't even know what amount of pain I might put myself through in order to achieve that, and the same can be said for people who do successfully kill themselves
You can also say that women who haven't experienced the pain of childbirth don't know how painful childbirth will be.
That doesn't mean I'm going to say all women who reproduce are "brave".
they actually achieve their goal of death, even without fulling knowing what positives and negatives that goal comes with
Achieving some random goal without knowing for certain what consequences it entails does not mean bravery IMO could just be reckless stupidity.
Fully knowing the consequences and choosing the outcome anyway because it is a measured choice, that seems more like bravery.
IE "I know I will burn my legs walking through this fire to save my cat, but I did it anyway because I lover my cat"
That's bravery IMO. But since you don't know what death entails (whereas you do know being burned hurts) rushing into death isn't brave in the same way.
Maybe the act of suicide can't necessarily be seen as brave on it's own, but the idea of killing yourself without a clear idea of what may happened during and after death is in my opinion a pretty brave thing to do. Maybe it's different for you, but feel free to explain so I can get a better understanding of your mindset.
I think not knowing is exactly why it isn't brave.
That's just making an uneducated choice.
When people risk death, the brave part is actually that they are risking surviving w/ near-fatal injuries and living as a cripple.