RageFuel People who justify degeneracy saying "it's just a construct"

[SuperMario64DS]

People who cheat on other people, force their partners into polyamory, have disgusting / abnormal sexual preferences, have partners in triple digits, etc. often justify their degeneracy by saying
"It's just a construct, who are you to judge"

Well, guess what you window-licking fuck, the morality of "not judging the sins of others" is also a construct
The morality of "respecting women" is also a construct
The morality of rape and murder are also constructs.
The morality of "not hitting women" is also a construct

So, you are just a worthless, used up cunt who is good for nothing but reproduction.

If you think I'm a sexist monster, fuck off, because you have no right to judge me you whore, it's just a construct that sexist people are bad

 

[Tenshi]

high IQ tbh

 

[Deleted member 18193]

exactly.
for that matter, everything that isn't material is just a construct. It just seeks to lift the weight of the word

 

[Personalityinkwell]

"it's just a construct" is just an excuse for something they know deep down is wrong and sick

 

[RedIce]

We created those constructs to contain our savage human impulses, but foids want to go back to the stone age, during a time where only the alpha male dominated. It's in their subconscious, they're biological husks with only one purpose, to breed.

 

[BrapZilian]

"it's just a construct" is just an excuse for something they know deep down is wrong and sick

However they're too degenerate to at least try to change it

 

[BlkPillPres]

There's no such thing as "degeneracy" because being a biological creature is inherently "degenerate"

Just think about what the act of sex is, a grinding and pounding of flesh where various bodily fluids are excreted inside of and all over eachothers bodies

Something like that doesn't magically become "pure" (not degenerate) just because you did a fucking ceremony and slapped some rings on eachothers fingers

EXISTENCE AS A BIOLOGICAL CREATURE IS INHERENTLY DEGENERATE

You are coping if you think otherwise, this is why "anti-degeneracy" makes no sense, its just people doing special pleading and coming up with special exceptions for when a degenerate act is "acceptable"

The only way to be truly anti-degeneracy is to be "anti-life"

 

[Deleted member 26884]

"it's just a construct" is just an excuse for something they know deep down is wrong and sick

 

[Deleted member 26032]

high IQ tbh

 

[Personalityinkwell]

There's no such thing as "degeneracy" because being a biological creature is inherently "degenerate"

Just think about what the act of sex is, a grinding and pounding of flesh where various bodily fluids are excreted inside of and all over eachothers bodies

Something like that doesn't magically become "pure" (not degenerate) just because you did a fucking ceremony and slapped some rings on eachothers fingers

EXISTENCE AS A BIOLOGICAL CREATURE IS INHERENTLY DEGENERATE

You are coping if you think otherwise, this is why "anti-degeneracy" makes no sense, its just people doing special pleading and coming up with special exceptions for when a degenerate act is "acceptable"

The only way to be truly anti-degeneracy is to be "anti-life"

retarded post

why was society not degenerate for thousands of years compared to now?

stupid fuck

 

[BlkPillPres]

why was society not degenerate for thousands of years compared to now?

You are using circular logic, it was never degenerate to begin with because degeneracy doesn't exist, because existence is degeneracy, there is no point defining something as though it is distinct when it is the default, all the things you think of as "degeneracy" are actually the default norms

What you call "degeneracy" is merely what people were always doing in secret and were repressed from doing, humans don't "become" degenerate, they are born degenerate, society was degenerate to begin with, you just weren't invited to the sex parties, the makeout games, the "midnight romps", etc, so from your perspective (the perspective of everyone who was "left out") society is now in some NEW age of "degeneracy"

No, you just weren't part of reality, you were literally left out of the typical human experience (and many others before you), and as on lookers all you could see is "how bad it looked" but if you were allowed to take part you would have enjoyed yourself thoroughly without a complaint

"Degeneracy" is just what people who feel left out label acts/events of pleasure and enjoyment

 

[Pengwin]

high IQ tbh

 

[Transcended Trucel]

Based. it maybe a societal construct but idc, we gotta purge em degenerates.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

You are using circular logic, it was never degenerate to begin with because degeneracy doesn't exist, because existence is degeneracy, there is no point defining something as though it is distinct when it is the default, all the things you think of as "degeneracy" are actually the default norms

What you call "degeneracy" is merely what people were always doing in secret and were repressed from doing, humans don't "become" degenerate, they are born degenerate, society was degenerate to begin with, you just weren't invited to the sex parties, the makeout games, the "midnight romps", etc, so from your perspective (the perspective of everyone who was "left out") society is now in some NEW age of "degeneracy"

No, you just weren't part of reality, you were literally left out of the typical human experience (and many others before you), and as on lookers all you could see is "how bad it looked" but if you were allowed to take part you would have enjoyed yourself thoroughly without a complaint

"Degeneracy" is just what people who feel left out label acts/events of pleasure and enjoyment

of course i was "left out"

but historically speaking those orgies, hooking up, were much less common. they did occur, don't get me wrong, but they were repressed for the stability of society

and yes, I would obviously be a degenerate given the chance, but that doesn't mean degeneracy doesn't exist.

degeneracy refers to the opposite of conservative values. are you saying conservative values don't exist?

 

[BlkPillPres]

Based. it maybe a societal construct but idc, we gotta purge em degenerates.

It will never happen, degeneracy is part of being a biological creature

 

[SuperMario64DS]

It will never happen, degeneracy is part of being a biological creature

You implicitly contradict yourself;
You presuppose "degeneracy"'s existence by stating that human beings reproducing is inherently degenerate by the slamming of meat and sharing of bodily fluids.

You wouldn't call that "degenerate" if degeneracy didn't exist, because you still are using some standard of natural disgust and non-sanitation in judging it "degenerate"

And obviously, using that standard, having sex with 100 people, a horse, or with multiple people is more degenerate than not.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You wouldn't call that "degenerate" if degeneracy didn't exist

No, I'm calling it degenerate based on the modern perception of degeneracy, my entire point is that it isn't degenerate because its the default, its the norm, maybe I should have used different terms, DISGUSTING (degeneracy) is the norm

And obviously, using that standard, having sex with 100 people, a horse, or with multiple people is more degenerate than not.

Its more disgusting yes, but degeneracy has more to do with a moral standard than something being "revolting", and morality doesn't actually exist, moral rules don't exist, they don't function like the laws of nature, they aren't real, and they change from era to era, as moral as you think you are, the people of the future will consider you to be a "degenerate"

 

[SuperMario64DS]

Its more disgusting yes, but degeneracy has more to do with a moral standard than something being "revolting", and morality doesn't actually exist, moral rules don't exist, they don't function like the laws of nature, they aren't real, and they change from era to era, as moral as you think you are, the people of the future will consider you to be a "degenerate"

I would disagree, I'm not a relativist.

Science | AAAS

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There's arguably an evolutionary benefit in "morality" by animals helping out members of their own species, and by choosing "immoral" behaviors which are destructive to their own species.

Kant sort of spotted this shit when he realized morality could be determined by "acting according to the maxim when you will it should become a universal law"; that what is good is only good if applied at a universal level. Kant's logic is flawed and inherently illogical, but people have taken this and made it logical, that you can determine what is moral if it contributes to society's inherent functionality via stability and reproduction.

See Kantianism.


There's a fundamental question about whether humans can fully grasp morality, but even our closest ancestors - chimps - have some studies towards helping members of their own species.

Morality changes because social circumstances, technology, and biology changes. It's not totally arbitrary; some of it truly is arbitrary, but not totally.

You might then argue "well why judge degeneracy." Well much like natural selection, I do believe that certain trends, ideas, are embraced by societies which human beings will have to reject at some point once it has been shown to hinder humanity's functionality and reproductive propagation; ideas such as Communism, or a single individual being able to defrock entire kingdoms (Papacy), for example.

I believe the degeneracy we are seeing growing is not beneficial to humanity's functionality and will be tossed out decades, maybe centuries from now. It's going to create a very rigid, hierarchical social structure because of different things (The superficiality of looks, while natural, was previously restrained in society, and now it is being embraced at a literal unapologetic level; the growth of hedonic escapism and increased competition will render a larger portion of the population in a "proletariat" type class; increased government (1%) control; etc.) which will make Catholic Monarchies blush, which won't be sustainable long term imo.

Us incels are only a small portion of the population and are just shitposting on the internet...but give or take 60 years or so and some movement grounded in some ideology will want to fuck over the entire structure of society.

I define "functionality" as an optimization of humanity having motivation to do things, economic efficiency, and happiness.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I believe the degeneracy we are seeing growing is not beneficial to humanity's functionality and will be tossed out decades, maybe centuries from now

Why, what about it is not beneficial, you are thinking about it from the perspective of the "collateral damage" (as an incel), but to everyone else its working out pretty well

 

[SuperMario64DS]

Why, what about it is not beneficial, you are thinking about it from the perspective of the "collateral damage" (as an incel), but to everyone else its working out pretty well

You think the increasing standards of women which is causing incels to rise in number, polyamory for the cream of the crop of guys and most women, women being used up cumrags who settle down in dysfunctional marriages, larger amounts of out of wedlock births, increasing forced hedonic escapism for the masses, worsening economic ladder-climbing, and increasing authoritarian control is sustainable?

No amount of social conditioning can overcome biological needs (unless technology fixes it; porn ain't working), the top 20% of men will become sociopathic due to large amounts of sexual intercourse, and the 80% of sexually repressed men will become violent, angry, fascist / authoritarian.

The whole system is gonna fucking burn down at some point assuming that people are educated in history. The Soviet Union wasn't nearly as utopian, authoritarian, hierarchical, and hedonic compared to what trends point to now; and that system burned down in 83 years.

 

[BlkPillPres]

No amount of social conditioning can overcome biological functionality (unless technology modifies biology), the top 20% of men will become sociopathic due to large amounts of sexual intercourse, and the 80% of sexually repressed men will become violent, angry, fascist / authoritarian.

Not necessarily, the men that fail can be pacified and can be coerced into accepting their position, open relationships are becoming a norm, a lot of men are becoming cucks, many are becoming MGTOW or just loners that stick to themselves and retreat into entertainment (gaming, occult, movies, tv, music, hobbies, etc)

Its not like in the past where all that there was to do was build a family and pass on your "legacy", there are so many distractions now

Everybody keeps saying - "Just keep pushing us around a little more and you'll see"

But I have news for you, unless one of us goes out and does something extreme, and I mean world shaking extreme, not a mass shooting, no men are going to unite to rebel against anything, most men will just accept their lot in life as losers, the end

So yes it is sustainable as much as you don't want it to be

You guys seem to have this imaginary "breaking point" in your mind, its never gonna happen, the average man is too pathetic and cowardly, nothing will happen

Think about it, why isn't the breaking point NOW?

Stats have come out showing that around 30% of men aren't having sex, we've had many mass shooters, male suicide is high and rising, women are becoming more blatant about their hypergamy and even mocking the male collective (tv, movies, music, reddit forums like Female Dating Strategy, etc)

WHY HAVEN'T MEN REACHED THE BREAKING POINT YET?

Its because most men will always use some cope as an excuse, instead of "getting mad and doing something about it" they'll buy some fast food and play the latest video game, get the new consoles, etc

Somebody has to do something to shake the fabric of societal reality to make a difference

 

[SuperMario64DS]

Not necessarily, the men that fail can be pacified and can be coerced into accepting their position, open relationships are becoming a norm, a lot of men are becoming cucks, many are becoming MGTOW or just loners that stick to themselves and retreat into entertainment (gaming, occult, movies, tv, music, hobbies, etc)

Its not like in the past where all that there was to do was build a family and pass on your "legacy", there are so many distractions now

Everybody keeps saying - "Just keep pushing us around a little more and you'll see"

But I have news for you, unless one of us goes out and does something extreme, and I mean world shaking extreme, not a mass shooting, no men are going to unite to rebel against anything, most men will just accept their lot in life as losers, the end

So yes it is sustainable as much as you don't want it to be

You guys seem to have this imaginary "breaking point" in your mind, its never gonna happen, the average man is too pathetic and cowardly, nothing will happen

Think about it, why isn't the breaking point NOW?

Stats have come out showing that around 30% of men aren't having sex, we've had many mass shooters, male suicide is high and rising, women are becoming more blatant about their hypergamy and even mocking the male collective (tv, movies, music, reddit forums like Female Dating Strategy, etc)

WHY HAVEN'T MEN REACHED THE BREAKING POINT YET?

Its because most men will always use some cope as an excuse, instead of "getting mad and doing something about it" they'll buy some fast food and play the latest video game, get the new consoles, etc

Somebody has to do something to shake the fabric of societal reality to make a difference

Look at this fucking world

I think we are slowly reaching that point; Black Lives Matter, a radical leftist organization that wants to deconstruct the family, is so mainstream you see it on commercials by companies now; the growth of the Alt-Right, Nazism, and Fascism; the election of Trump; the growth of the Incel movement; school shootings are an expectation of society now.

This is with 30% of men virgins in the 18-24 range. Could you imagine when that number rises to 75%?

Most human beings are fucking cowards. And they won't take action. Nobody stood up to the Holocaust, they were all fine with some fine-roasted Jew

But Dostoevsky said it best: if you trap a human in a hedonic bubble, where's he's given everything he ever wanted, at some point that human in his own ego will say "I'm more than this bubble"


For me, the biggest thing in terms of time will be whether or not humanity is able to compare its society to others

The Soviet Union burned down in 83 years in large part because Soviets saw how much shit their society was compared to others

 

[BlkPillPres]

Look at this fucking world

I think we are slowly reaching that point; Black Lives Matter, a radical leftist organization that wants to deconstruct the family, is so mainstream you see it on commercials by companies now; the growth of the Alt-Right, Nazism, and Fascism; the election of Trump; the growth of the Incel movement; school shootings are an expectation of society now.

This is with 30% of men virgins in the 18-24 range. Could you imagine when that number rises to 75%?

Most human beings are fucking cowards. And they won't take action. Nobody stood up to the Holocaust, they were all fine with some fine-roasted Jew

But Dostoevsky said it best: if you trap a human in a hedonic bubble, where's he's given everything he ever wanted, at some point that human in his own ego will say "I'm more than this bubble"

I think the greatest example as to why its sustainable is the fact that slavery happened in America

Think about it, our conditions as incels are way better than slaves, that's a huge understatement, nobody talks about the fact that male slaves were also raped by masters, babies were being fed to fucking alligators and used as bait and all kinds of fucked up sadistic shit, we only ever talk about the "base level horrors" of slavery which are just the tip of the ice berg

The gut-wrenching history of black babies and alligators

Last week, 2-year-old Lane Graves was attacked and killed by an alligator in central Florida. We should all mourn the death of this innocent child. And empathiz…

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Yet very few slaves rebelled at all, and that's because humans are so fucking cowardly they'd much rather remain tortured and abused slaves than die

Slavery should never had happened in America, not because Whites shouldn't have bought slaves, but because slaves should have fought to the death, they should have made the prospect of traveling and then buying slaves seem like a waste of money, because all the slaves fought till they died

Slavery would never have happened if the first 5 ships had experienced that kind of rebellion, but humans are cowards so it happened

So if slaves endured slavery JUST TO LIVE, I have no doubt in my mind that the growing population of incels with all the modern day comforts and copes will endure the era of female privilege

WE are going to have to make the rebellion happen, its not going to happen on its own, were going to have to FUCK MEN'S LIVES UP AND FORCE THEM TO TAKE A STAND (that's how bad it is)

 

[SuperMario64DS]

I think the greatest example as to why its sustainable is the fact that slavery happened in America

Think about it, our conditions as incels are way better than slaves, that's a huge understatement, nobody talks about the fact that male slaves were also raped by masters, babies were being fed to fucking alligators and used as bait and all kinds of fucked up sadistic shit

The gut-wrenching history of black babies and alligators

Last week, 2-year-old Lane Graves was attacked and killed by an alligator in central Florida. We should all mourn the death of this innocent child. And empathiz…

theundefeated.com

Yet very few slaves rebelled at all, and that's because humans are so fucking cowardly they'd much rather remain tortured and abused slaves than die

Slavery should never had happened in America, not because Whites shouldn't have bought slaves, but because slaves should have fought to the death, they should have made the prospect of traveling and then buying slaves seem like a waste of money, because all the slaves fought till they died

Slavery would never have happened if the first 5 ships had experienced that kind of rebellion, but humans are cowards so it happened

So if slaves endured slavery JUST TO LIVE, I have no doubt in my mind that the growing population of incels with all the modern day comforts and copes will endure the era of female privilege

WE are going to have to make the rebellion happen, its not going to happen on its own, were going to have to FUCK MEN'S LIVES UP AND FORCE THEM TO TAKE A STAND (that's how bad it is)

Eh, I think you are understating the history of antagonism towards slavery; even Thomas Jefferson called slavery an evil enterprise in the rough draft of the Declaration (despite sex with a slave as a means of growing his assets lmao) and there were several violent uprising. For example, Nat Turner's Rebellion, John Brown's rebellion, Gabriel's Conspiracy, etc.

And if you are talking about "America" as a country, that went away after about 90 years.


However, you are right, but there's an important factor between our generations and slavery.

Education. Slaves couldn't dream of a world beyond slavery except those who were fortunate enough to be educated.

Things will be different though because future generations have access to information and communication on how things were at one point; unless we have totalitarian government censorship, we will still have access to old films, literature, and music thanks to the internet.

This community's website alone has advanced the cause in ways that abolition couldn't.

 

[Deleted member 20207]

All moral statements are subjective and social constructs. I would also be a degenerate if I were Chad, though still blackpilled, because it would benefit me then. The only reason that I am not a degenerate now, is not because I think degeneracy is wrong, but simply because I cannot be a degenerate.

And yes, I am a sexist monster, because why should I not be that? If I had the power to rape a female without having to face any negative consequences, why would I care if some people view it as “evil”?

 

[SuperMario64DS]

Ah, IT picked up on this.

Great.

Predictable retards using "Muh harm principle."

"Polyamory doesn't hurt anybody bro, murder does"

Burning puppies, burning down people's homes when nobody's home, jerking off the pedophilic porn, mass suicide doesn't hurt anybody, blackface doesn't hurt anybody

If any of these "hurt" people, it is only indirectly, well guess what, polyamory is degeneracy that hurts people

Fucking low iq

 

[Black Soul]

And if you are talking about "America" as a country, that went away after about 90 years

What do you mean ?

 

[SuperMario64DS]

What do you mean ?

America's foundation at 1776, slavery ended 1865

 

[Black Soul]

America's foundation at 1776, slavery ended 1865

How the end of slavery means the end of America as a country?
I'm sorry for being stupid

 

[ChinaCurry]

Very high IQ bro

 

[SuperMario64DS]

How the end of slavery means the end of America as a country?
I'm sorry for being stupid

no, "slavery" ended at that point.

 

[SuperMario64DS]

Something being a social construct doesn't mean it's not real or valid.

 

[Black Soul]

no, "slavery" ended at that point.

Thanku I got it finally
Also weird put Nietzsche as avi and believe in Kantianism

 

[TheIncredibleIncel]

People who cheat on other people, force their partners into polyamory, have disgusting / abnormal sexual preferences, have partners in triple digits, etc. often justify their degeneracy by saying
"It's just a construct, who are you to judge"

Well, guess what you window-licking fuck, the morality of "not judging the sins of others" is also a construct
The morality of "respecting women" is also a construct
The morality of rape and murder are also constructs.
The morality of "not hitting women" is also a construct

So, you are just a worthless, used up cunt who is good for nothing but reproduction.

If you think I'm a sexist monster, fuck off, because you have no right to judge me you whore, it's just a construct that sexist people are bad

Have people said this to you? What did they say exactly?

 

[Deleted member 8353]

EXISTENCE AS A BIOLOGICAL CREATURE IS INHERENTLY DEGENERATE

You are coping if you think otherwise, this is why "anti-degeneracy" makes no sense, its just people doing special pleading and coming up with special exceptions for when a degenerate act is "acceptable"

The only way to be truly anti-degeneracy is to be "anti-life"

I agree tbh, people have hypocritical standards to justify that which is unjustifiable. Life forces you to be degenerate and cruel. Perhaps you can limit how much you engage in such acts, but not reject them wholly unless prepared to die as a result, and simple restraint won't make your end pleasant.

No, you just weren't part of reality, you were literally left out of the typical human experience (and many others before you), and as on lookers all you could see is "how bad it looked" but if you were allowed to take part you would have enjoyed yourself thoroughly without a complaint

"Degeneracy" is just what people who feel left out label acts/events of pleasure and enjoyment

It's only those who lose the tournament mating game that become aware of the injustice, similar to how predators don't pity their prey for it's torment. Well aside from maybe humans, but unless it stops us from engaging in said predation, what difference does it make? One can respect the unwilling sacrifice that another makes for it, yet a sacrifice is nonetheless made.

The fate of low value males doesn't stop Chad from engaging in behavior which is to our detriment. Imo the takeaway from this isn't that we should seek to be Chad, but to end the entire competition. It's just a shame that one almost certainly has to be on the losing end to really see any of this like I do.

 

[grondilu]

Well, guess what you window-licking fuck, the morality of "not judging the sins of others" is also a construct
The morality of "respecting women" is also a construct
The morality of rape and murder are also constructs.
The morality of "not hitting women" is also a construct

Also the morality of paying for sex.

I find it unbelievable that people who claim that what consenting adults do behind closed doors is no one else's business will also say that it's not ok though if there is a financial transaction involved.

 

[Shin no Shi]

People who cheat on other people, force their partners into polyamory, have disgusting / abnormal sexual preferences, have partners in triple digits, etc. often justify their degeneracy by saying
"It's just a construct, who are you to judge"

Well, guess what you window-licking fuck, the morality of "not judging the sins of others" is also a construct
The morality of "respecting women" is also a construct
The morality of rape and murder are also constructs.
The morality of "not hitting women" is also a construct

So, you are just a worthless, used up cunt who is good for nothing but reproduction.

If you think I'm a sexist monster, fuck off, because you have no right to judge me you whore, it's just a construct that sexist people are bad

exactly this. usually for those who don't understand the cause and effect of thier extreme degeneracy, which usually leads to variety of mental and physical if overdone, should just be left alone but do judge them, as that's part of the cause and effect.

They find it funny and ok to insult us, then vice versa shall be what they deserve.

 

[Deleted member 27159]

True they call is misogynist for calling them out and venting but then do all sorts of degenerate behavior and call it a social construct. If they do something then we have the right insult them