People waiting for society to "collapse"

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

Before Zimbabwe became Rhodesia it was Rhodesia. A country of British Settlers. The currency was on par with the US$ and a high quality of infrastructure and industry. Similar story in South Africa

Now people expect society in the West to "collapse" no it wont. Infrastructure simply slowly disintergrates. Electricity outages become more and more common. Prices keep rising year on year. Crime gets worse and worse slowly slowly, roads get more an more potholes slowly slowly, corruption increases slowly slowly.


Gated communities increase, people self segragte in their ethnic and tribal enclaves, government brutality increases.

20-30 years later you turn around and realise the place is becoming a worse and worse shithole.

There is no fantastic collapse then all the preppers run off into the forest to protect their supplies. Only time that can happen is in a civil war or conventional war. But good luck with that happening, in the West the chances are slim and slim just left the building.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Many areas in the US have been decaying like that.

 

[NDManlet173]

Many areas in the US have been decaying like that.

 

[WhitepillOverdose]

Rome didn't fall in a day either. And west will be the same. It wont fall, it will just change.

 

[Pancakecel]

That's why we need nuclear annihilation, come on russia, fire them already.

 

[based_meme]

The "collapse" isn't a physical, infrastructural collapse, though that is part of it.

What people mean is a societal decay - an internal (sometimes external) rot - that eats away at things like the sense of community. There is obviously an increase in moral decadence. There is also less trust and increased crime. These things result in shifts in demographics, where locals begin leaving and being replaced by foreigners with no ties or loyalty to the land or the people. This increases the cycle of low trust and higher crime.

The infrastructural issues are far downstream from these factors. It's a symptom of the causes.

 

[StakeofXhen]

We need a global recession already, we've been living on borrowed time since 2008. At least a great recession will put a fire under the lazy politicians asses.

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

The "collapse" isn't a physical, infrastructural collapse, though that is part of it.

What people mean is a societal decay - an internal (sometimes external) rot - that eats away at things like the sense of community. There is obviously an increase in moral decadence. There is also less trust and increased crime. These things result in shifts in demographics, where locals begin leaving and being replaced by foreigners with no ties or loyalty to the land or the people. This increases the cycle of low trust and higher crime.

The infrastructural issues are far downstream from these factors. It's a symptom of the causes.

Yeah its called formation of ethnic/tribal enclaves

 

[StakeofXhen]

Yeah its called formation of ethnic/tribal enclaves

Africa was always like that though, all of the counties are artificial states forced to pretend to be a homogenous whole, like Yugoslavia, Holy Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire.

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

Africa was always like that though, all of the counties are artificial states forced to pretend to be a homogenous whole, like Yugoslavia, Holy Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire.

yep Berlin Conference of 1886. But still each group simply stay in their tribal areas and only mix in 1-3 major cities

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Before Zimbabwe became Rhodesia it was Rhodesia. A country of British Settlers. The currency was on par with the US$ and a high quality of infrastructure and industry. Similar story in South Africa

Now people expect society in the West to "collapse" no it wont. Infrastructure simply slowly disintergrates. Electricity outages become more and more common. Prices keep rising year on year. Crime gets worse and worse slowly slowly, roads get more an more potholes slowly slowly, corruption increases slowly slowly.


Gated communities increase, people self segragte in their ethnic and tribal enclaves, government brutality increases.

20-30 years later you turn around and realise the place is becoming a worse and worse shithole.

There is no fantastic collapse then all the preppers run off into the forest to protect their supplies. Only time that can happen is in a civil war or conventional war. But good luck with that happening, in the West the chances are slim and slim just left the building.


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Collapse is possible, but it will come in another 200-300 years, none of us will live to see it with our own eyes.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Before Zimbabwe became Rhodesia it was Rhodesia. A country of British Settlers. The currency was on par with the US$ and a high quality of infrastructure and industry. Similar story in South Africa

Now people expect society in the West to "collapse" no it wont. Infrastructure simply slowly disintergrates. Electricity outages become more and more common. Prices keep rising year on year. Crime gets worse and worse slowly slowly, roads get more an more potholes slowly slowly, corruption increases slowly slowly.


Gated communities increase, people self segragte in their ethnic and tribal enclaves, government brutality increases.

20-30 years later you turn around and realise the place is becoming a worse and worse shithole.

There is no fantastic collapse then all the preppers run off into the forest to protect their supplies. Only time that can happen is in a civil war or conventional war. But good luck with that happening, in the West the chances are slim and slim just left the building.


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People who talk about the collapse of society say that because they want it to get closer, but societies collapse over centuries, not decades. The Roman Empire collapsed centuries after the first century AD, when madmen like Nero and Caligula had full power over the empire and did what they wanted until 476, that is, the Roman Empire rotted for about 5 centuries until it died.

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

Collapse is possible, but it will come in another 200-300 years, none of us will live to see it with our own eyes.

I doubt honestly.

During the time of Rome peoples were all isolated from each other . Today you can send a text message to the other side of the globe in less than a second. The populations those days were tiny , today we have large populations and can even work remotely. Example a team to high IQ engineers can repair an electric plant in UK today, fly to Canada and do some work then off to Germany the next day.

Things will just turn to shitholes.

Perhaps the economies could collapse soon , I think whats 100% garunteed is the collapse of the welfare state eventually, that will be a sight to see.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

I doubt honestly.

During the time of Rome peoples were all isolated from each other . Today you can send a text message to the other side of the globe in less than a second. The populations those days were tiny , today we have large populations and can even work remotely. Example a team to high IQ engineers can repair an electric plant in UK today, fly to Canada and do some work then off to Germany the next day.

Things will just turn to shitholes.

Perhaps the economies could collapse soon , I think whats 100% garunteed is the collapse of the welfare state eventually, that will be a sight to see.

The only indirect sign of the collapse of society is the inability of the state to attract the necessary number of citizens to serve in the army and, as a result, hire foreigners into the army. If Western countries that have problems recruiting for the army start hiring foreigners into the army, then yes, collapse is inevitable.

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

The only indirect sign of the collapse of society is the inability of the state to attract the necessary number of citizens to serve in the army and, as a result, hire foreigners into the army. If Western countries that have problems recruiting for the army start hiring foreigners into the army, then yes, collapse is inevitable.

you mean the professional army? That too these is also tiny . I dont know about America but if I am not mistaken they dont have problems recruiting, its more Europe having problems and their "professional" army is honestly tiny. So the consequences are insignificant.

By the way one very important counter argument which cannot be overlooked is that young (quality) workers are becoming ever more elusive and rare. They get offers for apprenticeships where they get laptops gifted to them, fancy phones, gym memberships, public transport tickets, even at times company car.
Why exactly would they bother joining the army?

 

[Razielcel]

I'm waiting to die because that's the best possible outcome. Everything else is copium.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

you mean the professional army? That too these is also tiny . I dont know about America but if I am not mistaken they dont have problems recruiting, its more Europe having problems and their "professional" army is honestly tiny. So the consequences are insignificant.

By the way one very important counter argument which cannot be overlooked is that young (quality) workers are becoming ever more elusive and rare. They get offers for apprenticeships where they get laptops gifted to them, fancy phones, gym memberships, public transport tickets, even at times company car.
Why exactly would they bother joining the army?

It's just an indirect sign of the collapse of society, which I read in some historical article. If your state cannot make military service prestigious and you are forced to hire foreigners into your army, then your state is a disgrace and will disappear after a while. As far as I know, many Latinos serve in the US army only for the sake of a US citizen's passport, and about 70% of young Americans are unfit to serve in the army due to obesity, drugs, mental health problems or criminal records.

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

It's just an indirect sign of the collapse of society, which I read in some historical article. If your state cannot make military service prestigious and you are forced to hire foreigners into your army, then your state is a disgrace and will disappear after a while. As far as I know, many Latinos serve in the US army only for the sake of a US citizen's passport, and about 70% of young Americans are unfit to serve in the army due to obesity, drugs, mental health problems or criminal records.

Okay I guess theres more to it if thats true. So must be true is historians see fir to mention it.

But the American army takes anybody they can, been the sole super power they have military bases everywhere and constantly fighting some war somewhere. That army needs constant fresh recruits and are willing to take anybody except retards with an IQ below 80 or something like that.

If even the US military rejects 70% of the youth then you know Americas future is one of disgenics . The high IQ healthy will congregate in small isolated towns and I guess with the trash sub humans that 70% of young Americans if even the army rejects them then the major cities will turn to utter shitholes. Sewerage flkowing on the streets, homeless everywhere, decaying buildings with bums making fires in them, dead dogs and cats lying in the streets for days, low IQ subhumans everywhere

 

[AntoCel]

Things will just turn to shitholes.