An option you should consider.
I’m not religious
T
What is meant by that expression
religion is just a cope
arabic orthodox chants are the most beautiful things ever
religion as cope unfortunately does not work
no free will if god is all knowing
religion as cope unfortunately does not work
no free will if god is all knowing
So I can become an orthodox monk volcel that lives on the top of a carpathid and browses .is from his altar? Orthodoxy and abrahamism has not offered me anything interesting and certainly will not ease my problems.
M
Elab.
Human nature is the same everywhere.
If you're ugly and non-NT, you will find hard time everywhere.
I remember visiting a huge Orthodox monastery in Western Ukraine. I stared at one female kitchen worker. She was small and tiny as far as I remember and she showed displeasure at me looking at her.
I also looked at other females near the monastery and it struck me how far I'm from being able to attract women.
If you're ugly and non-NT, you will find hard time everywhere.
I remember visiting a huge Orthodox monastery in Western Ukraine. I stared at one female kitchen worker. She was small and tiny as far as I remember and she showed displeasure at me looking at her.
I also looked at other females near the monastery and it struck me how far I'm from being able to attract women.
I spent a good chunk of my college Saturdays working at my Orthodox Church soup kitchen. Even the “homeless people” felt they were above me and often they treated me like shit. They gave me sour looks all the time.
Orthodoxy is more death culty than other sects of Christians. I spit on Mt. Athos and the gay monks who live there.
Orthodoxy is more death culty than other sects of Christians. I spit on Mt. Athos and the gay monks who live there.
i am orthodox christian
Are you from Greece btw?
Monasteries used to be proto-Universities - accumulators of knowledge.
Now some truecel working at research institute leads probably more monkish life than monks themselves.
T
What is othomaxxing,I don't understand
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No, America. I used religion as a crutch, jumping from denomination to denomination until I went extreme mode in Orthodoxy. When college passed me by pretty unceremoniously, I burned out, although Nietzsche really injected my blood with venom during that time because he really pointed out how much of a dumb coping system it is.
Once you internalize Nietzsche, you realize that the reason why Christianity has continued for so long is that most people have fun, sex, getting drunk, etc. when they are young, and that’s the pinnacle of their existence, and they get old and are unable to do it, so like children, they throw mental temper tantrums over that fact, they cope and delude themselves that they are now “above that” and “lived a life a sin” and have moved onto “better things”, even though it comes from a place of resentment and anger over their lost youth. Many religious people are genuinely weirded out when they find out you were really religious when you are younger, because they secretly hate the fact they are religious.
Nobody actually wants to be ascetic for asceticism’s sake. They do it, largely. because it’s a cope for the fact that they are unable to act out their desires.
Orthodoxy is the worst because of its focus on asceticism. At least Catholicism, Mainstream European Protestantism, etc. recognized to a larger degree the importance of social non-monastic roles in life and glorified the royal nobility. Orthodoxy almost demonizes those roles and sets the monks as the highest state in life.
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However, Orthodox priests can marry and have sex and children. While Catholic priests forced to stay celibate which leads them either to be a fanatics or perverts.
Personally, I can recognize cultural importance of Orthodoxy but many aspects of faith and Church life are cringe.
Too much focusing on asceticism as you pointed. Too much relying on authority.
Glorifying hardship in life even without thinking that too much hardship and negativity can wreck someone's soul.
I once have seen the book where some author ( female ) even glorified slave work of Stalin's gulag inmates!
Also Christianity and especially Orthodoxy focuses on importance of afterlife but Christian females still denounce you for not being 'man enough' and are attracted to Chads and thugs like 'worldly' females.
Even if Christianity never glorified overly manly men ( hero's worship is a pagan thing ) and wanted to create a 'new man' in Christ free of the flesh and blood influence.
Of course they failed to change human ( and especially ) female nature.
The problem is slave morality. No Christian can actually overcome this criticism.
Christianity promises you “spiritual wealth”, “spiritual love”, and “spiritual beauty” - it leaves those things undefined, but it appeals to the inherent goodness of the carnal thing. “Love”, “beauty”, “wealth”.
But then Christianity says the way to obtain these things is to villify the carnal things. Wealth leads to greed, love leads to lust, beauty leads to vanity.
But this is nonsense, because it makes no sense why these things are bad if the goal of salvation is a promise of these things at some level.
In fact, words like “greed”, “lust”, and “vanity” are undefinable qualities that simply mean an evil version of those good things - wealth, love, and beauty - and they are often subjective from person to person. “Lust” may be sleeping with 40 people for one person, it may be jerking off to another person. “Greed” may be owning a mansion for one person, it may be not being a monk and owning any private proper for another person”.
The Church rooted those moral conceptions centuries ago to social norms that no longer apply, so it is truly 100% subjective.
Villifying qualities like lust, greed, and vanity this tend to be used as a coping mechanism to shun the haves for being a have not.
Once you realize these things and internalize them, you’ll see Christianity is just a death cult at its core.
Even if it produced many great things in terms of positively influencing European mythology with its Jewish roots, creating philosophy, and many great cathedrals, and influencing many great figures, the problem is that the New Testament at its core is poisonous to the soul.
There are hardly any single women at churches, and their standards aren't any lower than the average woman. Don't bother.
christKikery
For me the weakest side of Christianity is a practical side. For example, if you have a wife which Christianity didn't oppose and even see this as a right way instead of adultery, masturbation and escortmaxxing, how you are going to have sex with her without lust?
This is practically impossible yet Christians keep preaching about some pure, heavenly love denying animalistic side of humanity.
I remember reading about soviet serial killer, pedophile and cannibal Chikatilo who refused sex with his wife in the name of the 'high love'.
Of course he wasn't a Christian but that Christian 'high morality' can actually create monsters by denying basic needs of human nature.
It's not a coincidence that USA are an absolute leader in serial killing. And USA was historically a puritanical country with very repressive sexual morality.
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Hyms are super pretty
Prais the Lord!
Yea you have good points but still you haven t experienced the real grace filled life of a orhodox monk.
Religious should all be gulag in atheist Bolshevik communist
High iq
Have you seen how Orthodox monks die? They spend most of their life living a constant agonizing state of self-pity and self-aggrandizement, “Lord, I’m such a poor poor sinner, I am not worthy to enter into Heaven”, and that is how they are at death. They spend every day trying not to touch their dicks and resist natural animalistic urges. And all that anger and all that frustration that is pent up manifests itself in vitriolic, angry moral and political rhetoric where they shame people that disagree with them in frustration, sometimes devolving to mentally outlandish conspiracies like Satan talking directly to Jewish bankers.
I spit on those sad excuses of humans. It’s self-delusion and escapism at its core. Completely unhealthy and a product of a “sickly mind”.
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